Security for in store pickups 9/19

[AdonisSMU]

No *****, sherlock. However, just because I can't prove I prevented a robbery by carrying a concealed weapon does not mean the null hypothesis (that a robbery could NOT have been prevented by me carrying a concealed weapon) is true either.

Laugh your ass off all you want, but the logic fail is on your part, buddy.

I am going to laugh at you because you're being ignorant. You're not thinking. You too busy trying to play super hero with your gun and you are going to regret it.

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I carry my M&P9c everyday everywhere I go. I hope I never ever have to unholster it when not at home or the range. But if the moment ever comes when someone else is staring at me with their own gun or hurting a loved one I will never regret having it on me. No it's not a guarantee I'll survive but my odds are a lot better then you without one. Most gun crime is committed by non law abiding gun owners who didn't obtain the gun legally.

Where did these people get these weapons? My guess is they got it from "law abiding" gun owners. Guns that come into NYC come from outside the state from "law abiding" gun owners and that was according to Bloomberg who was mayor when those stats came out.

 

[IllIllIll]

I am going to laugh at you because you're being ignorant. You're not thinking. You too busy trying to play super hero with your gun and you are going to regret it.

So says you. Really? Is that all you have left? Taunts?

I've been carrying a weapon for more than 20 years now and haven't shot or killed anyone. There are over 300 million privately owned firearms in this country. Where are the war zones you're so afraid of, except in cities like DC and Chicago where guns are 'banned'?

You've just outed yourself as an idiot with nothing logical or reasonable to say.

Where did these people get these weapons? My guess is they got it from "law abiding" gun owners.

OK, so now you're blaming law abiding gun owners for criminals obtaining guns. Frankly, that borders on offensive. I'll simply point out that you have ZERO proof to back up this statement and it's patently false. Law abiding citizens in Chicago are not allowed to own guns, yet the rate of murders and gun crime in the city are the highest in the nation. Where are these criminals in Chicago obtaining their guns when ordinary citizens can't even own them?

Someone's being ignorant, but it ain't me.

Guns that come into NYC come from outside the state from "law abiding" gun owners and that was according to Bloomberg who was mayor when those stats came out.

If guns are coming from outside the state from willing "law abiding gun owners" then those gun owners no longer considered to be law abiding. They are felons. And again, you have no evidence to back up the BS you're spewing.

In the end, there's nothing you can do about me owning or carrying my gun, and I am glad for that. Next time you're out and about, consider the possibility that the person you're passing may be carrying. It happens more often than you think. Better lock yourself in your room and don't come out.

 

[RByers8252]

Where did these people get these weapons? My guess is they got it from "law abiding" gun owners. Guns that come into NYC come from outside the state from "law abiding" gun owners and that was according to Bloomberg who was mayor when those stats came out.

They're generally stolen by thieves from gun stores or other means. There's always the guy abusing the system and no one will ever agree on it. Also crime in Chicago has dropped this year since allowing concealed permits to residents. Criminals want to attack someone weaker than them, when they know their odds are not that good they look elsewhere.

 

[realeric]

I live in Florida, but work in Atlanta. I'm going to the AT&T store in East Point on the 19th hoping they have some. Anyone familiar with Atlanta knows East Point, even with new development, is not the best area. I'm slightly concerned walking out of the store with a 6. Heck, I'm concerned using my 4 on Marta. When the 5 came out, pregnant women would come up to you on Marta asking to use your phone. They'd pretend they were dialing and then take off running with it. Atlanta sucks...there I said it.

North atlanta is safe area. You can walk around alone with iPhone6 at 2am. East Point? No. I wouldn't go there or park my car in front of the store.

 

[jk4lebron23]

North atlanta is safe area. You can walk around alone with iPhone6 at 2am. East Point? No. I wouldn't go there or park my car in front of the store.

Used to live 45 minutes north of ATL and still visit about once a month, East Point is a area I avoid at all costs!
I feel more comfortable downtown around the Varsity than I do East Point.

 

[Eeko]

You seem a bit racist this Saturday morning.

Stay classy!

He or she said nothing about race.

 

[Xultar]

He or she said nothing about race.

Nice to hear from you, I didn't know trailer parks had wifi.

(See what I did there?)

 

[nope7308]

I love how these debates inevitably degenerate into bogus stats and name calling. Why is it so difficult to have a civil conversation about a controversial issue?

Anyhow, to respond to a few of the points that were raised...

If certain guns are banned (e.g., assault rifles), then that means there's less guns that could potentially end up in the hands of criminals. And besides, there's no defensible reason why anyone would need an assault rifle -- there's simply no practical purpose. It's about supply and demand. The smaller the supply, the higher the demand, and the more difficult it will be to procure firearms illegally.

In cities with high gun ownership and low crime rates, you haven't established any causal relationship, merely a correlation. That could be explained in many different ways. For example, are we talking about urban or rural areas? What types of gun ownership? The population size? Etc. Ultimately, America has the highest rate of gun deaths worldwide, along with the highest rates of gun ownership. That's hardly a coincidence.

If America is such a safe country with so many guns, then why all the mass murders? How many mass murders have been stopped by someone with a conceal and carry? In stressful situations, the vast majority of gun owners are apt to err (we're all human) and potentially injure themselves or others.

Ultimately, you own guns for a few reasons:
- You like them, just 'cause
- You feel they make you safer, against all available evidence
- You go hunting

Those are perfectly acceptable reasons, but only to a point. Eventually, the risk will outweigh the reward, and that's when you ought to implement some protective measures. You may be law abiding, but that doesn't entitle you to do whatever you please. I'm not a drug smuggler, but I understand the need for airport security (to cite just one example).

And to lighten the mood, here's a funny and relevant bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBpuLlw4Xjs

 

[IllIllIll]

If certain guns are banned (e.g., assault rifles), then that means there's less guns that could potentially end up in the hands of criminals. And besides, there's no defensible reason why anyone would need an assault rifle -- there's simply no practical purpose. It's about supply and demand. The smaller the supply, the higher the demand, and the more difficult it will be to procure firearms illegally.

Yet another person who failed to educate himself before talking nonsense.

You are aware that assault rifles are already banned from private ownership, and have been since 1936, by the NFA?

If you're talking about assault WEAPONS (which is a nonsense term in itself), then how about you clarify what defines an 'assault weapon' and how is it any different than a regular semiauto sporting rifle?

In cities with high gun ownership and low crime rates, you haven't established any causal relationship, merely a correlation. That could be explained in many different ways. For example, are we talking about urban or rural areas? What types of gun ownership? The population size? Etc. Ultimately, America has the highest rate of gun deaths worldwide, along with the highest rates of gun ownership. That's hardly a coincidence.

Perhaps you can also explain away the high crime and murder rates in cities with no gun ownership, such as Washington DC and Chicago?

If America is such a safe country with so many guns, then why all the mass murders? How many mass murders have been stopped by someone with a conceal and carry? In stressful situations, the vast majority of gun owners are apt to err (we're all human) and potentially injure themselves or others.

Relatively speaking, the US IS a safe country despite having more than 300 million firearms in civilian hands. Overall gun crime rates have dropped since the expiration of the 1994 AWB, can you explain that away too?

Ultimately, you own guns for a few reasons:
- You like them, just 'cause
- You feel they make you safer, against all available evidence
- You go hunting

Those are perfectly acceptable reasons, but only to a point. Eventually, the risk will outweigh the reward, and that's when you ought to implement some protective measures. You may be law abiding, but that doesn't entitle you to do whatever you please. I'm not a drug smuggler, but I understand the need for airport security (to cite just one example).

You forgot 2 more reasons:

- You own one in order to protect yourself, your family, and your property.
- The 2nd Amendment says I can.

And if there is so much overwhelming evidence that guns don't make anyone safer, why should police be armed?

You need to knock off the vague statements. What do you mean by "do whatever you please" and "implement some protective measures"? They may sound good but they're meaningless. Be specific please. Not that I expect you to know what you're talking about, since you can't even differentiate between an "assault rifle" and an "assault weapon". That tells me you're just talking with no experience or knowledge of what you're talking about.

I follow the law. I carry a weapon wherever I go, when I find it prudent to do so, and have been for a long time now. Yet I haven't robbed a bank, mugged anyone for their iPhone, shot up a school, or brandished my firearm anywhere in public. So why does that make you feel unsafe?

 

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[JoetheBastard]

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