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You mean like Apple? But then again Feinstein was on the record in Feb that Apple should cooperate with the FBI, so there is that.

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Feinstein-says-Apple-is-wrong-to-refuse-to-6843414.php

I mean like all of them. What an office-holder said for public consumption has little or nothing to do with how legislation will be authored, in every case in very close consultation with the regulated industries, particularly the important industries located in their home states.

So for the record, here are the rebukes on this legislation from Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc: " _______ ."

So why are they so incensed? Because they were in the room when the legislation was written, that's why. This is how our government works.
 
Nobody wants a backdoor in iOS or suffer mad decryptions laws, not in any other operating system. And I agree, to some extend, but without any help from companies like Apple, we can't blame, say the FBI and NSA, for not doing enough/anything when another bomb goes off somewhere on this planet and one or more family members are lost.

So to what extend is your personal freedom and privacy more important than fighting criminals and terrorists? Saying no to everything doesn't help so what would be expectable to you?

There's an interview with General Michael Hayden, former head of NSA and CIA, responsible for the failure of the "Clipper chip", about that subject. He's put a number on it: Looking solely at national security (and when he says national security he means the USA), he rates the advantage of having security for the good guys vs. the inability to crack the security of the bad guys at about 70:30. That's solely based on national security. If you count financial advantages of security, it's no comparison (that's what he says. He was with the NSA, privacy never was his job, so he doesn't count that).
 
Her power base does not include that sector of Cali. She has been backed predominately by Defense, Education, and Entertainment. Some Cable too. You can also add the occasional banking group.

Don't kid yourself, her power base includes all of the important California industries.

Oh well, no good can come from this discussion. Lots of fist-shaking going on, but mainly in the wrong direction.
 
Fascists. Not surprised it is the criminally corrupt Feinstein at the helm.

I am sure it is, she is a no good pos, and the fools keep electiong her. Her husband has made millions off the crap she has pulled off in the senate.
 
Hahaha….. two old Senators trying to write a bill about technology and security in the 21st-century.

That's like Ted Cruz trying to understand hip-hop culture. LOL
 
Maybe someone can help me with this question I have: what about Apps with end-to-end encryption? I understand that, in its entirety, the iPhone's contents can be encrypted and Big Brother wants a backdoor. But what about Apps? Couldn't "criminals/pedophiles/politicians" just keep their sensitive data within a single encrypted app? In this case, Apple will have zero power over this encryption and we can't expect a smaller developer to assist the government with multiple phones.

Sure, the govt can shut them down, but 10 more will pop up. And they'll have no power over off-shore developers.
 
Security experts have heavily criticized the bill. Daniel Castro of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation told Re/code the bill "sets up a legal paradox" while the ACT/App Association said it amounts to a government-mandated back door. Security researcher Jonathan Zdziarski says the entire bill is dangerous, calling it "a hodgepodge of technical ineptitude combined with pockets of contradiction.
So it's in line with every other government policy we have.
 
What's strange is that I feel like Bernie is probably the lesser of all evils, and I'm a conservative-leaning moderate. That's pretty sad, lol. I like him as a man, even though he has some extreme ideas. I feel like that's a common theme this cycle. Everyone is so extreme. We need a more measured approach. Yeah, I think corporate tax rates are too low, but you can't just instantly make them skyrocket either. And you can't just socialize everything. And don't even get me started on the Trump craziness. What a whack job. I just want it to all go away. I'm hoping for contested conventions that will just choose someone new from both sides. Reset the whole election. It would be epic!
Say what you like about Bernie, but he's the only one in this race with any integrity.
 
People have tried to limit and control technology before. It'll fails every time as tech advances. The internet itself may morph and make any communications impossible to track, no legislation can prevent invention. This can't pass even with extreme changes it is like saying everyone must obey gravity but let us turn it off when we need it. You can't uninvent it now.
 
Why does Feinstein have such a reputation as a Progressive? Every time I see her name it's attached to some fascist piece of legislation. Remember the one where it was going to be illegal for 3 or more people suspected of gang activity to be in the same place? Yet her seat is untouchable... I think people here "San Francisco" and just assume she's open minded an eccentric...
 
It's funny how everyone is pointing fingers at the woman who sponsored this bill and not the man who sponsored this bill. Why is there no sexist comments about how Republican Richard Burr looks or comparing him to evil characters?
 
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I mean like all of them. What an office-holder said for public consumption has little or nothing to do with how legislation will be authored, in every case in very close consultation with the regulated industries, particularly the important industries located in their home states.

So for the record, here are the rebukes on this legislation from Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc: " _______ ."

So why are they so incensed? Because they were in the room when the legislation was written, that's why. This is how our government works.

I work in DC so you don't need to explain to me how lobbyists write legislation. But Feinstein is not just "an office-holder," she is the Vice Chairman of the Sen. Intelligence Cmmte. and very well could be Chairman come January. In an election year she verbally chastised Apple and not in a good cop/bad cop routine or political doublespeak -- she was actually being genuine then. Clearly she had nothing to gain and if she was double talking then she wouldn't have cosponsored the legislation she would be at a minimum "on the fence."

She wants the bill and can push it through will not affect her standing or ability to raise $ in CA one bit. Plus she probably won't even run for re-election given her age. DC is increasingly partisan but this is a bipartisan effort to criminalize encryption or require companies keep a set of keys. This one is about control just like HDMI. Lobbyists are not writing much of this one -- which should be obvious because it's so stupid and only overburdens tech makers rather than incentivize.

These kind of bills usually get loud, then worked out in closed session and brought out during the lame duck session, passed last day, if preferable. President signs before going to bed on Xmas eve. Opponents scream but everyone is too busy opening up their new iPhones, skiing, and watching lit balls, peaches, whatever, sink at midnight. Election just passed, so not much can be done anyway. A stealth reparation for those companies "injured" will mute their protests. That is how DC works.
 
It's funny how everyone is pointing fingers at the woman who sponsored this bill and not the man who sponsored this bill. Why is there no sexist comments about how Republican Richard Burr looks or comparing him to evil characters?

Because he is a boring cookie-cutter generic old white guy that NOBODY has heard of before, and NOBODY even knew he existed before this recent article. Kinda like Kasich. No one is going to waste time bashing and attacking him… because he just doesn't matter.
 
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