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Senator Planning Legislation to Punish Companies That Don't Unlock Encrypted Devices
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It's all fun an games until an elected official looses his or her phone and once in the wrong hands, it gets hacked and its contents spread online.
I'm not saying it's right, but... c
Call logs, gps data (if there is any) frequent locations, browsing history (online accounts to potentially scrape), how many cats they got in Neko Atsume, contacts, email, texts, passwords (potentially).
Depending on what they are trying to find and what they can get elsewhere, some of this might end up being extremely useful for solving a crime.
Semi-related: Witness testimony is actually not very reliable and is often misleading, especially when compared to more objective data (obviously this depends on who the witness is, but bystanders are easily the worst).
Ha, you quoted the title of the article, while I quoted something Bernie said in the article.
You prove that you read titles. I prove that I read the articles.
Our nation is surely in trouble this election season if voters are only reading article titles.
Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you specifically. Just read the articles and then form your own opinion. Bernie is not picking a side because he said it is complicated, but he did say in the article that he thinks fighting terrorists is important but not at the expense of our freedoms. He's being intelligent in this situation because he's not trying to be one of those "politicians that know nothing of technology".
Here's the article link you posted again so people reading are informed and can make their own opinions about this. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/18/bernie-sanders-staying-out-apple-fight-government/
Your Bernie quote didn't mention Apple or the FBI, which was the point of my original post. I suspect Bernie will come out on Apple's side, although it's disheartening that he had to equivocate about it. I guess that's just politics.
PGP was out, when? I remember having it on my Mac IIcx. People were all freaking out about that.
Hard encryption has been around for a long time. There has been programs that used it for most platforms.
There have also been a number, I can't think of the one right now, of programs that 'promised' hard encryption, but used the same 50% of the key for everything.
And there was RSA that got caught using an algorithm with a notorious (when discovered) easily brute forced result. And several corporations (What, Cisco, RSA, etc) using programs that DID have a backdoor of sorts.
Everyone is freaking out about 'encryption' like it's some sword hung over everyone's heads, but it's also, in this day and age, protection from a potentially over aggressive government, and definitely over aggressive 'foreign actors' who seek literally *anything* they can steal. To outlaw hard encryption (who polices that one I wonder? Anyone calling for 'small government AND this farce is a liar) and make *every device* breakable, means there is, in effect, ZERO security for ANY citizen from their OWN GOVERNMENT, and none from ANY OTHER EITHER!
Having all of your citizens standing on the Internet Superhighway with their pants around their ankles is really a freaking stupid idea.
And, stop me if you've heard this: If you outlaw hard encryption, and make every device breakable, only outlaws will have hard encryption and unbreakable devices.
That argument about making every device 'breakable' flies in the facts of the Paris bombing, when the perpetrators used PS3's and standard text messages and one report said kids walkie-talkies. So, do these paranoid geniuses want to outlaw PS3s? Walkie-talkies? Text messaging?
I heard they also just picked up the phone and called each other too. OMG!!! We need to monitor everyone's everything because we are so scared...
For the number of attacks, people really seem to want to kill a lot of our rights.
Except that no one on the Left is supporting this. It kind of dashes all your ill-informed assumptions when it's pretty much all Right-wingers who wan this done.
Oh, and when has the military ever made sense?
Ronnie Raygun's Star Wars seems like it was thought up just to help bilk the US Treasury. It never worked, and it no one killed it over how many years? How many BILLIONS of dollars?
Military intelligence.
Take off that tin foil hat. How do you go from one iPhone getting "backdoored" to everyone's iPhone getting open access for all hackers or even FBI? Do you know how many near impossible "what if's" have to happen?
Do you understand technology?
Do you understand how digital signatures work?
Do you know iphones will only install iOS from Apple that is signed by Apple?
Do you know the court order is for a special version of iOS that is coded to only work on the ID of the one specific iPhone 5c?
Do you know if the FBI or hackers try to change the ID in that special version of iOS, then the digital signiture won't be valid and can't be installed on other people's iphones?
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Apple would have to create that technology. Once the tool is made, it does not just disappear. The tool eventually gets stolen and is exploited. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's what happens when holes in security are made.
If the government is successful in forcing Apple to create this tool, they will force all other tech companies who offer encryption at the under level to do the same. With a precedent set, court orders will become more regular and expand outside of sphere of the violent terrorist into Free Speech and nonviolent activism as well under the guise of national security. That's how these things historically work.
There’s an easy way to stop the terrorist threat: Stop all immigration into the USA. Kill two birds with one stone (illegal immigration & terrorism). And by stopping all immigration, no one can say it’s racist, or nationalist, or religionist (if that’s a word) or anything like that.
Without immigration, our population will start to decline like many other industrial nations. This may sound good, but then look at what has happened to the makeup of a country which been experiencing just such a decline:
And here's what it is expected to look like in a few decades:
Most of those 70-79 year olds obviously aren't going to be able to work. They will need to be supported by an ever diminishing working-age population.
Nice except for the fact that this is a republican proposing these changes
Decline? What about reproduction? Besides, what's wrong with having a smaller population?Without immigration, our population will start to decline like many other industrial nations. This may sound good, but then look at what has happened to the makeup of a country which been experiencing just such a decline:
And here's what it is expected to look like in a few decades:
Most of those 70-79 year olds obviously aren't going to be able to work. They will need to be supported by an ever diminishing working-age population.
And what happened to saving up for retirement? And 401ks?
This is the the White supremacist's view, but it has no basis in reality.
Most terrorist activity is perpetrated by White males, generally Christian in their beliefs.
Reproduction rates in first world countries are simply not high enough sustain their population. The problem being that children have become a liability. Even raising one child is expensive in our modern world. There could be benefits to a smaller population in the distant future, but the intervening period would be painful.
Many people are barely scraping by. They don't have anything to save.
Whilst I am ultimately on Apple's side in this it does become very tricky. If your spouse/child/sibling had been abducted and their location was on a locked iPhone you'd very much want for someone to unlock it if they could.
Would there be a way for Apple to build a hardware solution that could, when connected to a phone, unlock it, maybe the hardware device with some kind of key stored in the inaccessible secure enclave?
It wouldn't allow for any phone to be accessed remotely but would provide that ultimate 'break glass' option...
Would there be a way for Apple to build a hardware solution that could, when connected to a phone, unlock it, maybe the hardware device with some kind of key stored in the inaccessible secure enclave?
It wouldn't allow for any phone to be accessed remotely but would provide that ultimate 'break glass' option...
1. It has nothing to do with race. As it is, there aren’t enough jobs to go around in this country. Why would you want to bring in millions of people who’ll work for less? Regarding Muslims, I’d like to be able to let them all in, but I don’t want to risk letting even one bad one in. Until Trump started talking about banning Muslim immigration, you would have rebuked Muslims for Sharia law. What changed?
2. Only in the middle ages. You must be thinking of the Spanish Inquisition and all of the atrocities the Catholic church committed in God’s name.
The location would be accessible from the cloud by Apple, assuming Find My iPhone was turned on; you wouldn't need to unlock an iPhone for that.
In terms of the number of plots foiled as well as the total amounts of people killed, domestic terrorist incidences in the U.S. far outnumber those from any foreign source.
I actually meant that the locked iPhone is on the table in front of you and stored on it is the location.
Re. Find My iPhone, isn't that subject to the same encryption as the rest of Apple's services? You'd still need the password in order to find the phone...
Looks like Senator Burr has temporarily changed his mind, or had it changed for him....
When did your ancestors get here?
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Guess it was just a knee-JERK reaction.
Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Tim McVey. Do you want me to go on?
They usually spend their efforts shouting about how our freedoms being being curtailed, and they should know, because they're the ones doing it.