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I'm wondering if the final iPhone 8s will have uniform black camera bumps and white logos across all different color phones. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think something like this would look better:

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I like your mockup, for the logo to match the color and for the camera bump as well.
I just hope the front will be black for all models, a white front would look awful this year.
 
The energy they get from a crowd of 7k vs 1k is a huge difference. I get the significance of putting this 10 years of iPhone anniversary event in the Steve Jobs theater, but I'm curious what the impact will be.

No difference what so ever. Theatre with 1K seating can accommodate the media they require.
 
All those laptops going at once, can your wifi handle it?

I really want your wi-fi devices off, are they off?
Please turn them off you turned them back on
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No difference what so ever. Theatre with 1K seating can accommodate the media they require.

I think so, 1000 invites should be enough. But the question is "it the venue ready to host people from the press?"
 
you don't think removing an 'ICONIC' home button is radically redesigning? By your own definition that would be a huge change. Radical doesn't make any judgements whether it is good or bad, just significant.
It's an obvious one.. not radical, there's a difference. Change for change sake is never a good thing.
 
We need a thumbs down. We get it, your unhappy...move along

I didn't say "this sucks! no headphone jack... err, I mean, no Touch ID and I'm not buying it, Apple is doomed, Steve never would have done this!!!11!" I said I'm just not too excited given these rumors and may decide to go with the 7s+ rather than 8 but will make up my mind after I see the keynote. Keep calm, no need to usher me out of the discussion, I was calmly stating my opinion on the rumors.
 
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I could live with that.

I’ll live with any of it lol, but that would be ok

Lol, I honestly don’t think Apple would make this kind of move if there wasn’t a significant improvement.

What really makes me think this though is while using iOS 11 (or even prior versions), many times you’re asked to use Touch ID to authenticate for something. Deleting an email from the lock screen, replying to certain types of messages. Not sure why, but I’ve been paying more attention to it. Now if authentication is seamless, or rather doesn’t require physical feedback, so many of these actions would just occur because the phone knows it’s me.
 
I didn't say "this sucks! no headphone jack... err, I mean, no Touch ID and I'm not buying it, Apple is doomed, Steve never would have done this!!!11!" I said I'm just not too excited given these rumors and may decide to go with the 7s+ rather than 8 but will make up my mind after I see the keynote. Keep calm, no need to usher me out of the discussion, I was calmly stating my opinion on the rumors.

Ha Ha I know. It just think people are assuming the worst of this phone in alleged leaks.

I’ve never had a need for Touch ID but maybe I don’t know what I’m missing
 
Ha Ha I know. It just think people are assuming the worst of this phone in alleged leaks.

I’ve never had a need for Touch ID but maybe I don’t know what I’m missing

For me biometrics in general have been very useful as my passcodes are always strong (long, random, and complex). Life would be much more difficult if I entered them every time I unlock the phone. Obviously facial recognition would also serve as a biometric method to unlock but (at the risk of sounding like I have tinfoil on my head) I like the slightly added protection against forced entry to the device that finger prints provide. A thief could very quickly hold a phone up to a victims face to unlock and then run away whereas using anything other than the right thumb makes that same task considerably longer with Touch ID (most people would assume the first couple failures were just a glitch and retry the thumb and then they may run out of attempts before finding the correct print; in my ideal world the number of attempts would be configurable and I'd set it to one). In areas of the world with poor human rights records that could also be a benefit for activists. Even in the USA I have concerns about the application of the forth amendment to searches of mobile devices; warrants are being issued to compel placement of a finger on a device but they cannot compel the owner to identify which finger would open the device. I know if people are truly concerned about unauthorized access the biometrics should be completely disabled but in my opinion Touch ID struck the right balance and facial recognition would not.
 
I don't trust the security of facial recognition compared to finger print. I'm sure many people will be very happy with a facial recognition only solution, I'm not. I'd like both with the ability to require both or disable either.

You do realize that apple would never release a security component in their products that was LESS secure than the previous form.... Apple is the market leader in security. As someone who purchases iPhones and apple products, you should be aware of this, and trust the brand. They would never leave their customers to risk.
 
The energy they get from a crowd of 7k vs 1k is a huge difference. I get the significance of putting this 10 years of iPhone anniversary event in the Steve Jobs theater, but I'm curious what the impact will be.
6000 waiting outside? lol
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For me biometrics in general have been very useful as my passcodes are always strong (long, random, and complex). Life would be much more difficult if I entered them every time I unlock the phone. Obviously facial recognition would also serve as a biometric method to unlock but (at the risk of sounding like I have tinfoil on my head) I like the slightly added protection against forced entry to the device that finger prints provide. A thief could very quickly hold a phone up to a victims face to unlock and then run away whereas using anything other than the right thumb makes that same task considerably longer with Touch ID (most people would assume the first couple failures were just a glitch and retry the thumb and then they may run out of attempts before finding the correct print; in my ideal world the number of attempts would be configurable and I'd set it to one). In areas of the world with poor human rights records that could also be a benefit for activists. Even in the USA I have concerns about the application of the forth amendment to searches of mobile devices; warrants are being issued to compel placement of a finger on a device but they cannot compel the owner to identify which finger would open the device. I know if people are truly concerned about unauthorized access the biometrics should be completely disabled but in my opinion Touch ID struck the right balance and facial recognition would not.
For me biometrics in general have been very useful as my passcodes are always strong (long, random, and complex). Life would be much more difficult if I entered them every time I unlock the phone. Obviously facial recognition would also serve as a biometric method to unlock but (at the risk of sounding like I have tinfoil on my head) I like the slightly added protection against forced entry to the device that finger prints provide. A thief could very quickly hold a phone up to a victims face to unlock and then run away whereas using anything other than the right thumb makes that same task considerably longer with Touch ID (most people would assume the first couple failures were just a glitch and retry the thumb and then they may run out of attempts before finding the correct print; in my ideal world the number of attempts would be configurable and I'd set it to one). In areas of the world with poor human rights records that could also be a benefit for activists. Even in the USA I have concerns about the application of the forth amendment to searches of mobile devices; warrants are being issued to compel placement of a finger on a device but they cannot compel the owner to identify which finger would open the device. I know if people are truly concerned about unauthorized access the biometrics should be completely disabled but in my opinion Touch ID struck the right balance and facial recognition would not.


Oops looks like a hiccup...posted twice..... Well anyway..I am concerned that if it is"face recognition".....my phone would scream every time it sees said face. :)
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where's my invite???
Lost in hyperspace??? :)
 
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Apple might as well not bring out wireless charging then if you aren't going to use it.

There is better grip on the glass back phones than what we have now. Can't really use the phone without a case. Far too slippy.
I had the 6,6s and 7 and 100% with the iPhone 8 if I drop it the back is gonna break it's just something more u have to worry when it was fixed years ago why bring it back
 
If I get an iPhone 8 to replace my iPhone 6 (64 GB Space Gray), it will be the 256 GB version in Jet Black. With one reason: it best hides the "notch" on top for the image sensors. And I will get the Pioneer Rayz Plus (black) to go along with it so I can listen and still charge the iPhone along with it.

Speaking of which, I do think the iPhone 8 will be joined in 2018 by a replacement for the iPhone SE. It will look like a reduced size iPhone 8, but will have a 4.7" AMOLED display in a unit not much bigger than the current iPhone SE.

I really do hope they hold the event at the Steve Jobs Theater at Apple Park. I'd love to see what the interior of that new auditorium looks like.
 
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You do realize that apple would never release a security component in their products that was LESS secure than the previous form.... Apple is the market leader in security. As someone who purchases iPhones and apple products, you should be aware of this, and trust the brand. They would never leave their customers to risk.

In general I'm very happy with Apple technology and policies when it comes to securing data. I'm not arguing that. Regardless I still have my concerns about facial recognition.

Any time you venture into new functionality with software there's risk. Even with finger prints there's been recent research that's led to "master prints" that can produce a positive match for many random finger prints on other readers (if I recall the paper correctly, Apple's Touch ID was susceptible but to a much lesser degree than others). When facial recognition goes mainstream thanks to something like the iPhone using it as its primary method to authenticate then research will be focused on how to defeat it and in the ceaseless arms race between those who secure systems and those who break them who's to say what sort of exploits they'll find. I don't expect Apple to produce something that can be broken by holding up a photograph but someone will get creative. Then there's code exploits that could surface given this is new code rather than now well vetted Touch ID. Just because Apple produces a new security feature doesn't mean it is automatically stronger than the previous and that's even more true on day one of the release.

Despite all of that I was referring more to the human element than anything else when comparing the two. If someone is attempting to force you to open your phone against your will it's pretty simple with facial recognition, we have one face. If someone is attempting the same thing via Touch ID with a little forethought you can obfuscate the process a bit by picking a finger other than your right thumb. It's a little thing but in my opinion is meaningful. A snatch and grab thief can quickly tap the screen and hold the phone up to unlock it and then sprint away as opposed to having to place your finger (and the correct finger) onto the home button. If you're an activist in a country with a poor record on human rights your government gets five tries to find the right finger to unlock your phone vs a single face. In the USA courts are issuing warrants to place fingers on phones and tablets because your fingerprint is a physical object rather than compelling you to disclose information only resident in your own brain, you do not have to disclose which finger you've registered to Touch ID but you only have one face. If you are in an abusive relationship (or just have a jealous partner) they could hold your phone in front of your face while you sleep without waking you as opposed to having to grab your finger and place it on the home button (waking you in the process).

In any case, I'm sure I'm well in the minority on all of this and most people will be very happy with facial recognition as their sole biometric security feature. I would prefer both.
 
So if the event is in fact going to be on the 12th, when should we expect the invites to go out given past years schedules?
 
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