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Ya. I had an iMac Pro I dumped when Mac Pro was finally released. I didn't dislike it, it's like a high-end iMac where the cooling works correctly. I mean, that's it basically... iMac Pro is just an iMac that actually works and can sustain promoted specs -- as opposed to hit them with fans going at warp speed and then throttle downwards shortly thereafter.

The most urgent change iMac requires is slapping a T2 chip in there, to help enable Apple's artificial cut-off for no longer supported systems. No T2? buh-bye a few OS revisions sooner. I strongly suspect this should've been released sooner, but got delayed due to world falling apart and civilization being semi-cancelled for intermittent periods of time.

Just a quick side question. How does the base Mac Pro processor match up with the i9 in the iMac? I am tired of this iMac and looking to replace it with a system that actually has good cooling. Doesn't the Xeon lack QuickSync while the i9 has it? For video editing, that might cause some issues. Unless the T2 also does h.264.
 
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I don’t get this constant need for redesigns, heck, people are still buying the Porsche 911 and it doesn’t look much different today to how it was when first produced in 1963.

I still think the iMac looks great, sure the bezels could be made smaller and the chin reduced a little bit but I wouldn’t want it to look like a massive iPad.
Agreed, I just bought one about 2 months ago, and yes, it looks the same than a 2013 I have but it performs blazingly better practically speaking.
I got nothing against the design, minimalistic, just one power wire, the rest wireless design, daisy chain to TB displays (whether the old apple ones or new ones), etc.
It works. Yes it has a chin, but heck, the computer, cooling, etc has to go somewhere while not getting in the way or damaging the screen.
I regret nothing with it.

And this Prosser dude? I wish he would just shut up and/or everybody else stop echoing his arrogant-ish remarks. Goddamn.
 
I don’t get this constant need for redesigns, heck, people are still buying the Porsche 911 and it doesn’t look much different today to how it was when first produced in 1963.

I still think the iMac looks great, sure the bezels could be made smaller and the chin reduced a little bit but I wouldn’t want it to look like a massive iPad.

1000% THIS!
 
Seems to me we were told of a redesigned iMac at WWDC. How'd that work out? Who cares about your sources after that blunder.
I must've missed the specific mention of a redesigned iMac during the keynote, so perhaps you heard it mentioned in a workshop afterwards?
 
I feel as though I've been hearing about this redesign forever, but the leaks look terrible. Am I missing something as to why a giant iPad is considered a major improvement? Ha. I'm more interested in better cooling and power, and therefore, still lean toward the iMac Pro but worry that it's a 2017 machine so intrinsically out of date.
 
I feel as though I've been hearing about this redesign forever, but the leaks look terrible. Am I missing something as to why a giant iPad is considered a major improvement? Ha. I'm more interested in better cooling and power, and therefore, still lean toward the iMac Pro but worry that it's a 2017 machine so intrinsically out of date.

That is why I am leaning towards the Mac Pro. I don't need the power it provides, the i9 is good enough for me. But the iMac doesn't have the proper cooling to keep the i9 performing well and more importantly, quiet. Plus the expandability and upgradeability of the Mac Pro is a massive plus. I will probably get the base Mac Pro + 2TB SSD and upgrade the RAM later.
 
Does no one else think that one more Intel iteration is a bad sign for Apple silicon?

This is a consumer machine, not the Mac Pro. If Apple silicon were really ready, why not put it in this iMac? Why the wait?

I dont think AS is ready to match the 27" with its higher CPU GPU options. Kuo has the 24" AS slated for Q4 which I hope is accurate.
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Yea, Jon Prosser knows nothing. If he should turn out to be right for once, its just by accident.

Prosser has been right more than once and I doubt it was two accidents. He correctly leaked the second-generation iPhone SE being announced on April 15, 2020 and the 13-inch MacBook Pro being refreshed on May 4, 2020,
 
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Who would still want a intel iMac?

Full Disclosure. I have a Haswell Pentium Dell AIO 23 inch. Very old HP USB keyboard and even older USB Microsoft mouse. Happy with the 2015 hardware. Hate Windows 10 and reloaded the original Windows 8.1 from restore media.
My 2007 iMac still boots but is hardly usable. Everything is too outdated.
My Mom has a 2008 Dell PC and still uses Windows 7.
So I want 2 iMacs and want to save $200 on each one. Hope Apple CPU can make that possible. The mini is crazy expensive. I would need monitor, keyboard, mouse. That makes an iMac less money, or at least the same.
All I need is the ability to load other browsers and email clients. "The usual suspects."
Don't care for Apple email or browser. For that matter, Windows browser. Would use SeaMonkey (Netscape) before that.
Some of us want a Mac without paying the heavy premium cost. I am one of those.
If necessary, can use Windows 8.1 until the start of 2023.
I'd prefer an AMD iMac versus ARM, but that is wishful thinking.
Guess I'm a stubborn customer.
 
Who would still want a intel iMac?
I would.
My 27inch is limping along and needs replacing, and I dont want the first iteration of the new chip because its a certainty there will be issues with it, so that puts the new new design maybe 2+ years away for me, eg new 27 inch mid 2021 next gen mid 2022. I'll swap at that time maybe.
 
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I dont think AS is ready to match the 27" with its higher CPU GPU options. Kuo has the 24" AS slated for Q4 which I hope is accurate.
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Prosser has been right more than once and I doubt it was two accidents. He correctly leaked the second-generation iPhone SE being announced on April 15, 2020 and the 13-inch MacBook Pro being refreshed on May 4, 2020,

Apple Silicon is actually going to blow away current desktop and laptop GPU chips, at least as far as the more basic versions go. And it might be better (faster and more efficient) than some of the high end GPU chips. You can already see just how good their graphics processing is with the iPad Pros, and they’ll undoubtedly be even better in desktop and laptop applications.
 
Me. Why? Because I want only one computer, like the iMac's design and its great display and use both Windows (for gaming) and macOS (for everything else). I won't be able to run Windows properly on an ARM iMac, that's why I will spend a large amount on the last and most powerful Intel iMac and use it for many years.
Been thinking about replacing my late 2012 27" iMac and tossing up between Intel and ARM, I don't need it for Windows and will need to update some software anyway. Not in a rush so might see what the last Intel ones might bring.
 
It’s too easy to drop the iMac chin and go with slimmer bezels to not do it.. I’m simply just tired of looking at the same design, even if it is good design.
 
Given a choice between the final Intel iMac and a 1st gen Apple Silicon model, I would opt for the Intel model. I remember that the first gen Intel iMacs were fitted with 32-bit processors and replaced 8 months later by 64-bit Core 2 Duo processors. Apple successfully managed the PowerPC to Intel transition, but the initial group of products did not have the shelf life that latter releases did.
 
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Will a power cord be included in the box?
Yes, it’ll be a foot long and the prongs won’t match any known power outlet. Apple will simultaneously release a replacement power receptacle that matches the plug design and costs $1000. A 9 foot plug will be available the second half of 2021.
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People whose business requires running x86 VMs and Docker images. Also people who live dangerously by depending on x86-64 Mac software from vendors who are no longer in business. Also developers who need a new or replacement system on which to test their software on x86 systems that a large fraction of Mac users will be using for many years. e.g. Macs purchased in the last couple years have a long life expectancy.
I use a raspberryPi that I power and network connect from the USB-C port on my iPad. Every single thing I could need a desktop OS for (Linux) is available on the rPi. It’s significantly cheaper, portable, and I RDP to it. I have set it up to act as a proxy accessing the internet through it (wirelessly and wired). I have made a couple of these now. One is for video games, another runs Kali. Instead of running docker I just buy another SD card and configure it. You could conceivably set one up with Win10 on it (I’ve never tried this).
Just a thought.
 
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I think the Apple Silicon transition incl new optimised software from most big/important players will go a lot faster than you might expect. The PowerPC to Intel transition beat all expectations and was also completed well ahead of schedule, I think this transition might be similar. In fact, I think the hardware will take longer than the software, with the MacPro being the last machine to transition. I think the 'consumer' machines will transition first, and the highend pro machines last, with the consumer transition being complete by summer next year (pending any pandemics) and the pro machines about 6 months later, about 1st quarter 2022.
 
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