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It's a corporate tax dodge (allegedly). Basically, if you have no retail side (as many global companies HQ'd in Ireland don't), you're not generating profits directly in country, and are thus subjected to different tax criteria. It's obviously much more complicated than that, but essentially Apple did a deal with the Revenue a while back. Quid pro quo, tax vs job creation.
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Hmm on reflection you could be right. Maybe Voda and O2 just don't see it worth pursuing.
I didn't know that - so that explains why we have no Apple Store here. Seems we never will have one then.
 
Really pissed off that you now have to buy the Stainless Steel model in GPS and cellular. I've no interest in the cellular feature. WTF Apple :mad:
 
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I was hoping that to but when Phil said there's as great deal during the trial run from Carriers I knew there's going to be a high cost. So I'm out.. they said a similar thing when cellular iPad's were all the craze. And you have to pay for that monthly too. To me the watch can't do nearly half as much as phone's/ipad's so it shouldn't cost a monthly fee. But then Apple threw out there that of course Apple Music 40 million songs... blah blah blah and again reaffirmed data costs. AGH!

Found this already:
AT&T say it'll cost $10 a month to add the device to an existing mobile plan; Verizon and T-Mobile say they will make that connection free for the first three months. The latter notes the eventual $10 price applies only if you enroll in auto-pay billing. From: arstechnica.com

So a 120.00 a year to have this on my wrist on the off chance I need to make a call without my phone? Yeah that's an easy pass.

Yup. Pass. Would it be nice to have? Certainly. At $120 a year? No thanks.
 
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Apparently att requires u to pay an access fee because it wil use the data from your plan. The access fee starts at $20 a month. That's ridiculous.

this. It will be a device access fee. That is also the reason it is only on the big 4 in the US.
 
According to the FAQ on the website, you can choose to activate cell service later through the watch app.
 
AT&T has a 10 device limit per mobile share, don't they? We already have 9 devices across our family. Plus, $10 for the watch, which won't use data like an iPad, is really high. I'm crossing my fingers it's just a $5 add to the iPhone line.
 
Forgive me if this has already been asked but I noticed there is no wifi only stainless option for series 3. I don't really want to pay to add the watch to my plan so any idea if the cellular model will work with no cellular connection, i.e. in wifi mode only?
 
Forgive me if this has already been asked but I noticed there is no wifi only stainless option for series 3. I don't really want to pay to add the watch to my plan so any idea if the cellular model will work with no cellular connection, i.e. in wifi mode only?
The clue is in the "GPS + Cellular" description.

Just as I'm writing this on a "Wifi + Cellular" iPad with no SIM inside.
 
Forgive me if this has already been asked but I noticed there is no wifi only stainless option for series 3. I don't really want to pay to add the watch to my plan so any idea if the cellular model will work with no cellular connection, i.e. in wifi mode only?

I would think it would.

Just noticed as well that the cellular models have 16GB storage compared to 8GB of the none cellular.
 
I am frustrated! haha I was really looking forward to this but I am currently on a plan with another network in UK, and can't switch to EE yet. Even if I bought an apple watch I would have to wait until next year to start a new contract with EE.

:(
 
Update 12/9/17: we've just had confirmation from EE that you'll need two separate contracts for your phone and the Apple Watch Series 3. It told us: "To get the cellular functionality of the watch, users will need one contract for the watch and a second Pay Monthly or SIMO contract with an iPhone 6 or later".

:eek::mad:
(non-animoji obviously)


(Source: https://www.stuff.tv/features/11-things-you-need-know-about-apple-watch-series-3#pfAqcwCWsfe9LKrb.99)
Will be interesting to see how this plays out with greedy carriers over the next year or so.....I really can't imagine many people will want to take out a separate contract for a watch.
 
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Just EE is failure for the UK. I won’t be switching away from 3 (the free calls abroad is simply too good).

Once it does hit other networks it has to be cheap for it to viable for such a fluffy feature. Plus it must work with other apps like podcast apps and Spotify.
 
Just EE is failure for the UK. I won’t be switching away from 3 (the free calls abroad is simply too good).

Once it does hit other networks it has to be cheap for it to viable for such a fluffy feature. Plus it must work with other apps like podcast apps and Spotify.

Same, but I might get it and not activate the cellular? I mean, can one do that?
 
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Found this already:
AT&T say it'll cost $10 a month to add the device to an existing mobile plan; Verizon and T-Mobile say they will make that connection free for the first three months. The latter notes the eventual $10 price applies only if you enroll in auto-pay billing. From: arstechnica.com

So a 120.00 a year to have this on my wrist on the off chance I need to make a call without my phone? Yeah that's an easy pass.


I agree

$5 a month, i’d probably bite, but bitch about it. $10, i’m definitely sticking with my series 2. Saves me money i guess!
 
totally Gutted, was going to get the ss series 3 when I went to the states in December, I’ve just seen as it’s a cellular and gps version it’s a different model to the UK ones, so if I get it in the states (not bothered about lte anyway) and there is a problem a UK apple store will know it’s a different model and probably not repair it grrrr ah well I’ll keep my series 0 for a while longer!
 
Anyone know if the cellular has to be enabled on the watch or can it be left inactive u til there’s greater carrier support?
 
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