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Sideloading apps and also paying monthly or yearly for that luxury is not very appealing to me. It will be interesting to see how sideloading pans out over the next few years.
 
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It's the same reason a lot of them are opposed to the idea of the iPhone getting a USB-C port: Because Android has it and Android bad. And also because Timothy Cookothy told them it was bad so they trust Daddy Tim.
I really wish people with these super strong opinions on Android would spend literally any amount of time using an Android device. I'm too locked into the Apple ecosystem to ever switch over but a lot of these presumptions people make on how insecure Android is are truly just laughable.

To even install one of these additional app stores folks need to jump through so many hoops with increasingly scary warning messages. I wish I knew here this believe came from that you can just slip and drop your Android phone and in the process accidentally install a scam version of Google Play and half a dozen malware apps.
 
How will consumers be able to ensure that every app they want to purchase/download is available from the store they want to use? Will consumers even be given this choice?
 
How will consumers be able to ensure that every app they want to purchase/download is available from the store they want to use? Will consumers even be given this choice?
What do you do when you go to the grocery store and they don't have the specific cereal you want?

You buy something else or go to the store that has it. Why is this so difficult for people to understand?
 
How will consumers be able to ensure that every app they want to purchase/download is available from the store they want to use? Will consumers even be given this choice?

Once again...Android. I'm tired of having to remind everyone Android's existence is living proof that it will be. Despite alternative app stores and sideloading being on Android, the majority of apps still stick with the Google Play Store as any app that doesn't suffers as a result
 
Sideloading apps and also paying monthly or yearly for that luxury is not very appealing to me. It will be interesting to see how sideloading pans out over the next few years.
That’s just one model though. And there’s already plenty of subscription apps. Imagine an itch.io game store for iPhone. It would be great to have that option.
 
Once again...Android. I'm tired of having to remind everyone Android's existence is living proof that it will be. Despite alternative app stores and sideloading being on Android, the majority of apps still stick with the Google Play Store as any app that doesn't suffers as a result
Look, we all know full well that the next article about sideloading will have all the same silly comments.

You can’t teach people that don’t want to be taught.
 
Then don’t install apps outside the App Store, nobody will force you
It’s the fact that by allowing sideloading, even if not available in your region or whether you use other stores, by nature it’s going to create new vectors for attacks due to bugs and security issues.
I’d prefer my device stays as locked as possible. I bought an Apple iPhone to use the Apple App Store to limit security concerns..
 
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I don’t understand the people who are super excited about third party stores. Do you think apps will be any cheaper? Why would any developer pass the savings on to you? They won’t.

And do developers think these third party stores will be free? No, they’ll still have to fork over a portion of revenue. Probably just 1% lower than Apple’s cut at any given point in time, just to say they’re cheaper.

And developers will still keep their apps in the Apple App Store for the most part. Because only a small number of people are even going to install third party stores anyway. People who want emulators and…. ???

This literally doesn’t matter. It’ll get put in, for EU-only, and for anyone else who requires it by law. The low numbers these third party stores see will make it not worth the cost to run them. Or maybe we’ll just see big-company-specific stores because everyone wants their own “launcher” - like a Microsoft app store that only hosts microsoft apps etc

Just… a pointless exercise really. Nothing to get worked up over.
 
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It’s the fact that by allowing sideloading, even if not available in your region or whether you use other stores, by nature it’s going to create new vectors for attacks due to bugs and security issues.
I’d prefer my device stays as locked as possible. I bought an Apple iPhone to use the Apple App Store to limit security concerns..

So don't use third party App Stores.

Why are so many responses to this thread basically just this gif:

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So don't use third party App Stores.

Why are so many responses to this thread basically just this gif:

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As my post explains, by nature of having it more open, whether you use a third party store or not doesn’t change the fact that there will be more ways for attackers to abuse code.
Please read properly.
 
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I don’t understand the people who are super excited about third party stores. Do you think apps will be any cheaper? Why would any developer pass the savings on to you? They won’t.

And do developers think these third party stores will be free? No, they’ll still have to fork over a portion of revenue. Probably just 1% lower than Apple’s cut at any given point in time, just to say they’re cheaper.

And developers will still keep their apps in the Apple App Store for the most part. Because only a small number of people are even going to install third party stores anyway. People who want emulators and…. ???

This literally doesn’t matter. It’ll get put in, for EU-only, and for anyone else who requires it by law. The low numbers these third party stores see will make it not worth the cost to run them. Or maybe we’ll just see big-company-specific stores because everyone wants their own “launcher” - like a Microsoft app store that only hosts microsoft apps etc

Just… a pointless exercise really. Nothing to get worked up over.
I’m not excited, but it seems silly not to allow.

Here’s two examples:
A) people who want to play fortnite
B) people who would like a native Xbox cloud streaming app.
 
As my post explains, by nature of having it more open, whether you use a third party store or not doesn’t change the fact that there will be more ways for attackers to abuse code.
Please read properly.
Why is the Mac not a blighted wasteland of malware if all it takes is the ability to download something from a third party to open that door for attackers?
 
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Why is the Mac not a blighted wasteland of malware if all it takes is the ability to download something from a third party to open that door for attackers?
There are malware, it might not be a “blighted wasteland” but they exist and the notarisation of apps to allow openness has been known to have been ineffective and not a perfect solution.


Yes things can be patched, but it’s a cat and mouse situation. Why even decide to open the can of worms when it’s not required?
 
Government over reach.
I want to install my Chevrolet Engine into my Ford and the Government says I can!
Did Users get to vote for side loading? Or because the government says so?
Careful what you ask for.
 
I do hope this will be like Gatekeeper on Mac where people can turn sideloading on or off as they feel is appropriate.

What stops a sideloaded app from sideloading another less-friendly app (malware, trojan, keylogger, packet sniffer), without your knowledge?

I wonder how Apple will deal with people that find their phones riddled with bad agents unable to function and they take it into a Genius bar? -- reset!
We will have to wait and see.
 
If you are in America, it won’t bother you then and you can stay nice and comfy. For us in Europe, this will provide greater flexibility and usability for our IOS devices.

Setapp are based in Cork in Ireland!! Yay!!!!
It would be funny if ppl got their phones hacked from using these kind of services (sideloaded apps).
 
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I’m curious to hear from app developers in the future that use alternative app stores. Competition usually drives the prices down, but that doesn’t mean developers end up with more revenue…
 
Every third party store offering would basically need to replicate what Apple does.
  • They take a commission like Apple
  • They need to host the stuff on servers<
  • They need to have a criteria list just like Apple with what is acceptable
  • They have to verify apps, reject malware
  • Developers need to fill paper work to sign up including stuff for taxes
  • They have to prevent someone to take an app from the Apple App Store from one developer and upload it as their own to the new App Store.
  • Developers would still need to sign up with Apple to get their developer certificates
A lot of work to just have the profits go to a third party shop company instead of Apple.
Not necessarily cheaper or better for developers.
Great, so then we will have zero problems at all since other App Stores won't even be profitable, or just plain bad. Or perhaps there can be actual competition in this space now. Either way, more options = good for consumers.
 
Sigh. You are assuming there won't be a reverse bum-rush of developers out of Apple's app store. Developers want to maximise profit at the expense of security.
Yeah that's gonna be a problem just like it's been on Google Play Store. Oh wait, that never happened, silly me.

Does anyone actually know if apple made changes to iOS 17 to allow sideloading? They surely neglected to mention any such thing at WWDC.
If they didn't then it'll be in a 17.x point release. Regardless, when they do make the changes you can be sure that it won't just be automatically enabled on that release, they'll enable it at the latest possible date I'm guessing, and there probably won't be much in the way of marketing regarding the change.
 
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