cmaier
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Anyone who buys an Intel Mac today is buying it because they have special Intel-only needs, and I doubt they care very much about a spinny globe.
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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
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Anyone who buys an Intel Mac today is buying it because they have special Intel-only needs, and I doubt they care very much about a spinny globe.
Exactly, so basically everything new in Monterey lol!
Wouldn’t be so bad if this OS came out when the M chips were more widely available in the Mac lineup. I’m not buying an 13” M1 MBP or Air just for this OS to be spiffy.
You seem like a smart person, so maybe you have a logical explanation for this:smorrissey
Good...goood.... now everybody go and buy a brand new Mac M1.
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Indeed the fanboy force is strong today.....
"Why especially those features? Why not, for example, "voice isolation mode" or "wide spectrum mode" in FaceTime? Why not SharePlay, why not Universal Control?
I mean, if Apple just want to force people to buy a new M1 Mac, wouldn't those features be more appealing?"
Realityck
macrumors G5
Have they? If Apple released a new batch of faster x86 iMacs and Power Macs, would the appeal of M1 limited solutions stop everyone in their tracks like businesses and serious computer users that buy more expensive Macs? It's like the recent commercials promote Macs as art, rather than solutions. They do have some more relevant commercials that show it being used, but do you see them on the air?
FOLKS!! STOP DEFENDING APPLE!!
You KNOW they make every decision based on reading macrumors, a population that’s approximately .000001% of the entire mac userbase! They make a decision, go around moping, read macrumors and then feel GOOD about it, DO YOU WANT THAT??
You KNOW they make every decision based on reading macrumors, a population that’s approximately .000001% of the entire mac userbase! They make a decision, go around moping, read macrumors and then feel GOOD about it, DO YOU WANT THAT??
cmaier
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I really do. It amuses me when people get all worked up when tiny features, that they didn’t even know they wanted 3 days ago, become the most important thing in the world to them, and they go all ******* because products that they were perfectly happy with today won’t get those new features.
xgman
macrumors 603
Well I didn't care about any of this till I read your post.
visualseed
macrumors 65816
OS support, sure, but there have always been specific features that have been hardware dependent and not supported on previous models no matter how new. I remember a lot of features not being supported by my 2012 Mac mini in 2015 by El Capitan despite supporting the OS and I bought that Mini new in 2014.
Apple Knowledge Navigator
macrumors 601
Put it this way; the Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos and Live Text for copying and pasting, looking up, or translating text within photos are bound to be taking advantage of the Neural Engine in M1, making it unique to Apple Silicon.
This is going to be the case for many - not all - of the new features introduced over the coming years.
Absolutely. Everyone knows that 99% of Mac users frequent these forums. Whatever Apple pays us..er.. them is a bargain when you consider how effective we are at keeping macrumors a mainly positive place with very few complaints.
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Dictatorial would be more, “Buy this or you die.”
not
“Here’s a thing you’re free to spend money on it if you want what are effectively superfluous features, but you’re also good to keep your current system. It’ll get all the far more useful features, just not this particular fluff.”
Zdigital2015
macrumors 601
You must have missed the PowerPC to Intel transition then. This is pretty slow and orderly.
portland-dude
macrumors regular
Apple will sell Intel hardware right up until the day they officially discontinue support for them, it's just how they operate.
The base memory IS fine, unless you you require physical memory to capture or manipulate massive in-memory data stores. Considering that very, very, few ever need to do that, (and anyone actually doing that knows enough about computers to not ask anyone’s opinion) you can say “The base memory is fine.” to any random person interested in a Mac and you would be correct.
LeadingHeat
macrumors 65816
The M1 chip supports 2 displays natively. The MacBook Pro/Air counts as one of those. It doesn’t support two external displays (unless you’re on the mini of course because it doesn’t have a built-in display).
But then again these are the basic, entry level chips. You have to remember that. No serious business owner, needing 3 screens, would consider the MacBook Air a sufficient computer.
paulypants
macrumors 6502a
No Neural engine with Intel sili...
"OUTRAGE!!! NO TECHNICAL REASON!! FORCED DEPRECIATION!! WAAAHHH!!!!"
😂
visualseed
macrumors 65816
I imagine it has to do with the frameworks they leverage to build some of these features. There may be ARM only libraries for aspects of these that don't have anything to do with what we see on screen but are necessary to make it work properly. It could be the neural engine and machine learning. Could be performance aspects of Metal that require Apple's specific GPU cores for hardware acceleration. Could be something totally different. It's hard to tell. It's one thing to say you can make a spinning globe work on any computer, but until we know what other features and processes are threaded through this, it's hard to say why it's not supported on non-Apple Silicon machines.
Oh god, even here some fanboys manage to defend Apple. Imagine your M1 to not get part of basic features in macOS next year, without any reason, guys.
Zdigital2015
macrumors 601
Intel Mac owners: “Man, macOS Monterrey looks like a nothing upgrade, count me out, what a lame ass WWDC. Wake me up when it’s over.”
Also…Intel Mac owners upon finding out that certain features of macOS Monterrey are Apple Silicon only: “How dare you not give me features I didn’t care about two days ago, Apple, planned obsolescence, forced conversion, witches being burned, Tim is the Devil, why are we being singled out for this horrible mistreatment?” Yada Yada Yada.
Also…Intel Mac owners upon finding out that certain features of macOS Monterrey are Apple Silicon only: “How dare you not give me features I didn’t care about two days ago, Apple, planned obsolescence, forced conversion, witches being burned, Tim is the Devil, why are we being singled out for this horrible mistreatment?” Yada Yada Yada.
LeadingHeat
macrumors 65816
Oh it definitely was, but they didn’t specify that so of course I was going to correct them. 😉
The underlying concern of theirs was that they needed the 3 displays, but then why would you choose an entry-level chip? These are the first iteration of the M-series chips. If the M1X still only supports 2 monitors, then we can have a discussion.
I'm pretty confident the recent Hackintosh growth has hurt Apples computer sales, they're going to rush towards destabilizing Intel builds as rapidly as possible.