I wouldn’t want to buy an Intel Mac today and find out that’s changing in only a few months.
Anyone who buys an Intel Mac today is buying it because they have special Intel-only needs, and I doubt they care very much about a spinny globe.
I wouldn’t want to buy an Intel Mac today and find out that’s changing in only a few months.
This is an outrage. No technical reason this can’t be on Intel.
Forced depreciation in action.
You seem like a smart person, so maybe you have a logical explanation for this:smorrissey
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Good...goood.... now everybody go and buy a brand new Mac M1.
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Indeed the fanboy force is strong today.....
Have they? If Apple released a new batch of faster x86 iMacs and Power Macs, would the appeal of M1 limited solutions stop everyone in their tracks like businesses and serious computer users that buy more expensive Macs? It's like the recent commercials promote Macs as art, rather than solutions. They do have some more relevant commercials that show it being used, but do you see them on the air?Not even though. They're still selling computers with Intel CPUs - they've just majorly cut down on the number of people who will buy their higher revenue (and I assume higher profit) computers... the Mac Pro and the Intel MacBook Pros.
No you don’t.
Well I didn't care about any of this till I read your post.I really do. It amuses me when people get all worked up when tiny features, that they didn’t even know they wanted 3 days ago, become the most important thing in the world to them, and they go all ******* because products that they were perfectly happy with today won’t get those new features.
OS support, sure, but there have always been specific features that have been hardware dependent and not supported on previous models no matter how new. I remember a lot of features not being supported by my 2012 Mac mini in 2015 by El Capitan despite supporting the OS and I bought that Mini new in 2014.One of the bargains struck in the Apple ecosystem is that new releases work on up to 5 year old hardware. If we now need to buy a new device every year for the OS to work then people may make a different decision.
Put it this way; the Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos and Live Text for copying and pasting, looking up, or translating text within photos are bound to be taking advantage of the Neural Engine in M1, making it unique to Apple Silicon.FOLKS!! STOP DEFENDING APPLE!!
I sometimes wonder if certain folks are literally on the payroll at Apple
Absolutely. Everyone knows that 99% of Mac users frequent these forums. Whatever Apple pays us..er.. them is a bargain when you consider how effective we are at keeping macrumors a mainly positive place with very few complaints.You bet their crack marketing team is also posting on these forums.
Dictatorial would be more, “Buy this or you die.”Typical $pple's dictatorial methods of getting their users to purchase new products from them.
You must have missed the PowerPC to Intel transition then. This is pretty slow and orderly.would not be surprised if macOS released 2 years from now completely drops Intel mac support completely.
Apple wasting no time fully transitioning OS to be ARM only in short span.
Dunno. But neither do you. Nobody outside Apple can knowI'm pretty sure Intel chips and handle those new features in MacOS. You really believe leaving those features out of the Intel based systems was not intentional?
Apple will sell Intel hardware right up until the day they officially discontinue support for them, it's just how they operate.yes, and they are still selling new Intel-based Macs ...
The base memory IS fine, unless you you require physical memory to capture or manipulate massive in-memory data stores. Considering that very, very, few ever need to do that, (and anyone actually doing that knows enough about computers to not ask anyone’s opinion) you can say “The base memory is fine.” to any random person interested in a Mac and you would be correct.The Augmented Reality capture requires 16GB main memory and 4GB VRAM.
The point is more that assuming "well the base memory they sell it with is fine" is quite flawed, despite what some will insist.
The M1 chip supports 2 displays natively. The MacBook Pro/Air counts as one of those. It doesn’t support two external displays (unless you’re on the mini of course because it doesn’t have a built-in display).Not natively on laptops. It's a huge oversight for business applications.
YOU’VE FOILED THEIR PLANS YOU BOUNDER, YOU RUFFIAN!!Like any business, if Apple sees a way to earn more money it will. Limiting certain features to M1, Apple hopes to push more users to buy an M1. Well I already have both! Hah! Tim Cook. You get to only force me to buy a new Mac if I want to. LOL!!
No Neural engine with Intel sili...This is an outrage. No technical reason this can’t be on Intel.
Forced depreciation in action.
I imagine it has to do with the frameworks they leverage to build some of these features. There may be ARM only libraries for aspects of these that don't have anything to do with what we see on screen but are necessary to make it work properly. It could be the neural engine and machine learning. Could be performance aspects of Metal that require Apple's specific GPU cores for hardware acceleration. Could be something totally different. It's hard to tell. It's one thing to say you can make a spinning globe work on any computer, but until we know what other features and processes are threaded through this, it's hard to say why it's not supported on non-Apple Silicon machines.You seem like a smart person, so maybe you have a logical explanation for this:
"Why especially those features? Why not, for example, "voice isolation mode" or "wide spectrum mode" in FaceTime? Why not SharePlay, why not Universal Control?
I mean, if Apple just want to force people to buy a new M1 Mac, wouldn't those features be more appealing?"
Oh it definitely was, but they didn’t specify that so of course I was going to correct them.I think the point was 2 external monitors