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This is an outrage. No technical reason this can’t be on Intel.
Forced depreciation in action.

Exactly, so basically everything new in Monterey lol!

Wouldn’t be so bad if this OS came out when the M chips were more widely available in the Mac lineup. I’m not buying an 13” M1 MBP or Air just for this OS to be spiffy.
 
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Good...goood.... now everybody go and buy a brand new Mac M1.

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Indeed the fanboy force is strong today.....
You seem like a smart person, so maybe you have a logical explanation for this:

"Why especially those features? Why not, for example, "voice isolation mode" or "wide spectrum mode" in FaceTime? Why not SharePlay, why not Universal Control?
I mean, if Apple just want to force people to buy a new M1 Mac, wouldn't those features be more appealing?"
 
Not even though. They're still selling computers with Intel CPUs - they've just majorly cut down on the number of people who will buy their higher revenue (and I assume higher profit) computers... the Mac Pro and the Intel MacBook Pros.
Have they? If Apple released a new batch of faster x86 iMacs and Power Macs, would the appeal of M1 limited solutions stop everyone in their tracks like businesses and serious computer users that buy more expensive Macs? It's like the recent commercials promote Macs as art, rather than solutions. They do have some more relevant commercials that show it being used, but do you see them on the air?

 
I really do. It amuses me when people get all worked up when tiny features, that they didn’t even know they wanted 3 days ago, become the most important thing in the world to them, and they go all ******* because products that they were perfectly happy with today won’t get those new features.
Well I didn't care about any of this till I read your post.
 
One of the bargains struck in the Apple ecosystem is that new releases work on up to 5 year old hardware. If we now need to buy a new device every year for the OS to work then people may make a different decision.
OS support, sure, but there have always been specific features that have been hardware dependent and not supported on previous models no matter how new. I remember a lot of features not being supported by my 2012 Mac mini in 2015 by El Capitan despite supporting the OS and I bought that Mini new in 2014.
 
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FOLKS!! STOP DEFENDING APPLE!!
Put it this way; the Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos and Live Text for copying and pasting, looking up, or translating text within photos are bound to be taking advantage of the Neural Engine in M1, making it unique to Apple Silicon.

This is going to be the case for many - not all - of the new features introduced over the coming years.
 
I sometimes wonder if certain folks are literally on the payroll at Apple
You bet their crack marketing team is also posting on these forums.
Absolutely. Everyone knows that 99% of Mac users frequent these forums. Whatever Apple pays us..er.. them is a bargain when you consider how effective we are at keeping macrumors a mainly positive place with very few complaints.

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Typical $pple's dictatorial methods of getting their users to purchase new products from them.
Dictatorial would be more, “Buy this or you die.”
not
“Here’s a thing you’re free to spend money on it if you want what are effectively superfluous features, but you’re also good to keep your current system. It’ll get all the far more useful features, just not this particular fluff.”
 
The Augmented Reality capture requires 16GB main memory and 4GB VRAM.

The point is more that assuming "well the base memory they sell it with is fine" is quite flawed, despite what some will insist.
The base memory IS fine, unless you you require physical memory to capture or manipulate massive in-memory data stores. Considering that very, very, few ever need to do that, (and anyone actually doing that knows enough about computers to not ask anyone’s opinion) you can say “The base memory is fine.” to any random person interested in a Mac and you would be correct.
 
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Not natively on laptops. It's a huge oversight for business applications.
The M1 chip supports 2 displays natively. The MacBook Pro/Air counts as one of those. It doesn’t support two external displays (unless you’re on the mini of course because it doesn’t have a built-in display).

But then again these are the basic, entry level chips. You have to remember that. No serious business owner, needing 3 screens, would consider the MacBook Air a sufficient computer.
 
Like any business, if Apple sees a way to earn more money it will. Limiting certain features to M1, Apple hopes to push more users to buy an M1. Well I already have both! Hah! Tim Cook. You get to only force me to buy a new Mac if I want to. LOL!!
YOU’VE FOILED THEIR PLANS YOU BOUNDER, YOU RUFFIAN!!
 
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Literally everyone said don't buy an Intel Mac, but did they listen? Of course not.
 
You seem like a smart person, so maybe you have a logical explanation for this:

"Why especially those features? Why not, for example, "voice isolation mode" or "wide spectrum mode" in FaceTime? Why not SharePlay, why not Universal Control?
I mean, if Apple just want to force people to buy a new M1 Mac, wouldn't those features be more appealing?"
I imagine it has to do with the frameworks they leverage to build some of these features. There may be ARM only libraries for aspects of these that don't have anything to do with what we see on screen but are necessary to make it work properly. It could be the neural engine and machine learning. Could be performance aspects of Metal that require Apple's specific GPU cores for hardware acceleration. Could be something totally different. It's hard to tell. It's one thing to say you can make a spinning globe work on any computer, but until we know what other features and processes are threaded through this, it's hard to say why it's not supported on non-Apple Silicon machines.
 
Intel Mac owners: “Man, macOS Monterrey looks like a nothing upgrade, count me out, what a lame ass WWDC. Wake me up when it’s over.”

Also…Intel Mac owners upon finding out that certain features of macOS Monterrey are Apple Silicon only: “How dare you not give me features I didn’t care about two days ago, Apple, planned obsolescence, forced conversion, witches being burned, Tim is the Devil, why are we being singled out for this horrible mistreatment?” Yada Yada Yada.
 
I think the point was 2 external monitors
Oh it definitely was, but they didn’t specify that so of course I was going to correct them. ;)

The underlying concern of theirs was that they needed the 3 displays, but then why would you choose an entry-level chip? These are the first iteration of the M-series chips. If the M1X still only supports 2 monitors, then we can have a discussion.
 
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