It would be so poetic if next year "macOS farallon islands" doesn't offer all the features to M1 chips
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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
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I feel some people are being a bit deliberately obtuse in this matter.
The fact that these features are missing, is not a big deal on the face of it, but what it represents (should these features currently not be in development for Intel Macs) is Apple taking away team resources used for development for Intel machines and moving them onto M1 machines, while still selling Intel machines, and leaving lots of Intel owners out in the cold without much thought. The decent thing to do, would have been to operate equal resources on both M1 and Intel machines for the remainder of the Intel model lives. Even three years main feature support would have been suitable.
If you are ok with Apple doing this to you, good for you. But I think it is wrong and shows Apple will happily step on you should it suit them. As many of us always suspected but it is now confirmed. But there is really bugger all we can do about it apart from buy non Apple when we want a new machine.
The fact that these features are missing, is not a big deal on the face of it, but what it represents (should these features currently not be in development for Intel Macs) is Apple taking away team resources used for development for Intel machines and moving them onto M1 machines, while still selling Intel machines, and leaving lots of Intel owners out in the cold without much thought. The decent thing to do, would have been to operate equal resources on both M1 and Intel machines for the remainder of the Intel model lives. Even three years main feature support would have been suitable.
If you are ok with Apple doing this to you, good for you. But I think it is wrong and shows Apple will happily step on you should it suit them. As many of us always suspected but it is now confirmed. But there is really bugger all we can do about it apart from buy non Apple when we want a new machine.
Maybe if Apple just charged $99 for the update, then people wouldn’t be so upset about missing these features.
I totally expect this first generation of Apple Silicon Macs to be bastards that fall off the feature support cliff much sooner than later models. Those are the breaks in tech. Early adopters and late adopters always pay the price. I still have no regrets for buying.
Called this out the minute M1 devices were announced and said that they will start offering things in their new Apple silicone devices, not on Intel. You're an idiot someone called me for suggesting Apple would do such a thing. And here we are.
They can’t hear you (because of the fans 🤣)
As far as I am aware, Apple does in store trade-in with Macs now. As long as your local store is open, you should be to able to get your gift card or instant credit on a purchase that day.
Here's the thing.
It would not make sense for Apple to continue to release all new features of an OS for machines which have already been announced to be deprecated. They already allow you to install the OS on systems which are years old - and quite understandably, there are limitations in generational hardware as well. You won't have all the features available on your Early '15 Air. But it will still run Monterey, and you'll still receive security updates, and it will still have the features available to it as originally advertised, and in all respects, a significant amount more from the other OS releases (though, not all. Clearly.). As others have said, support =/= features.
Assume that Apple paid some goodwill and rewrote the features for Intel processors. Now, they are on the hook for supporting those features for at least two years due to their current N-1 cadence of support. Or AppleCare, so now 3 years, right? So now these features are pushed into support to 2023 or beyond, for a system that you may have originally purchased in 2013 (assuming Mac Pro). Nevermind the changes in Intel hardware over time. What do they do, rewrite the feature for only 2015 MB models and leave the Mini or something else behind? It wouldn't make sense. There's a lot of different technology in play. Different CPUs, and different GPUs, across many models. Note how in the past few OS releases, not all features were supported on certain Mac models, such as Sidecar, even though they still received the new OS itself. Saaaaaaaame logic.
Then, you enter the realm of user experience. They could surely write many of these features for Intel-based Mac systems. But they might have a tremendously poor user experience, and then people would be upset about that and require more support resources and effort from Apple. Who, by the way, has already declared that they are moving away from Intel. Let's just remember that.
As others have said, the release of M-based MBPs could potentially happen prior to Monterey's release. So that argument is negated.
Just because they are planning on releasing another Intel Mac doesn't A) mean that they will, or B) think that the workflows that necessitate that kind of system would find these features useful. And, if an M-based model is released in the same product line, then that pro user can make an educated guess as to which to buy based on supported features.
Yes, Apple is selling new Macs with Intel processors. You are already aware that there is next-generation hardware coming, and have for some time. It is on you, the consumer, to make an educated guess if you want to buy current-gen hardware or wait for next-gen. Just because it isn't supported on some product lines, doesn't mean there aren't product lines now that can and will support new features. It's like you would be mad that you bought an iPhone 11, even though you could get a 12, and saying "Well, why can't I take a night-mode selfie?"
tl;dr: This happens across the board so often, in so many industries and companies. Get mad at Apple, whatever, but your armchair assessment of their business practices, the technological challenges involved, and of planned obsolescence can be misguided. /rant
It would not make sense for Apple to continue to release all new features of an OS for machines which have already been announced to be deprecated. They already allow you to install the OS on systems which are years old - and quite understandably, there are limitations in generational hardware as well. You won't have all the features available on your Early '15 Air. But it will still run Monterey, and you'll still receive security updates, and it will still have the features available to it as originally advertised, and in all respects, a significant amount more from the other OS releases (though, not all. Clearly.). As others have said, support =/= features.
Assume that Apple paid some goodwill and rewrote the features for Intel processors. Now, they are on the hook for supporting those features for at least two years due to their current N-1 cadence of support. Or AppleCare, so now 3 years, right? So now these features are pushed into support to 2023 or beyond, for a system that you may have originally purchased in 2013 (assuming Mac Pro). Nevermind the changes in Intel hardware over time. What do they do, rewrite the feature for only 2015 MB models and leave the Mini or something else behind? It wouldn't make sense. There's a lot of different technology in play. Different CPUs, and different GPUs, across many models. Note how in the past few OS releases, not all features were supported on certain Mac models, such as Sidecar, even though they still received the new OS itself. Saaaaaaaame logic.
Then, you enter the realm of user experience. They could surely write many of these features for Intel-based Mac systems. But they might have a tremendously poor user experience, and then people would be upset about that and require more support resources and effort from Apple. Who, by the way, has already declared that they are moving away from Intel. Let's just remember that.
As others have said, the release of M-based MBPs could potentially happen prior to Monterey's release. So that argument is negated.
Just because they are planning on releasing another Intel Mac doesn't A) mean that they will, or B) think that the workflows that necessitate that kind of system would find these features useful. And, if an M-based model is released in the same product line, then that pro user can make an educated guess as to which to buy based on supported features.
Yes, Apple is selling new Macs with Intel processors. You are already aware that there is next-generation hardware coming, and have for some time. It is on you, the consumer, to make an educated guess if you want to buy current-gen hardware or wait for next-gen. Just because it isn't supported on some product lines, doesn't mean there aren't product lines now that can and will support new features. It's like you would be mad that you bought an iPhone 11, even though you could get a 12, and saying "Well, why can't I take a night-mode selfie?"
tl;dr: This happens across the board so often, in so many industries and companies. Get mad at Apple, whatever, but your armchair assessment of their business practices, the technological challenges involved, and of planned obsolescence can be misguided. /rant
What begins? Are you having bouts of keyboard constipation?
It was obvious Apple would announce new features M1 only at some stage, but not so soon, three, four years after was expected.
glad I sold my 15" MacBook Pro couple of weeks ago and using 16" issued by work. wont buy intel based Mac anytime soon!
Lmao the drama, the Apple apologist at it best defending Apple, what a circus.
Idc about FaceTime blurring my underwear in the background in my room what I care is a stable OS, but it’s not happening because all years they add a new useless gimmick, and now it is getting worse, soon the MacBook Pro Max, MacBook Pro meh, MacBook Pro intel for education competing with chromebooks and all these full of bugs forever and ever.
Idc about FaceTime blurring my underwear in the background in my room what I care is a stable OS, but it’s not happening because all years they add a new useless gimmick, and now it is getting worse, soon the MacBook Pro Max, MacBook Pro meh, MacBook Pro intel for education competing with chromebooks and all these full of bugs forever and ever.
I think this is the best way to deal with it. Apple’s just a company like many others and when it gets to the point where they’re not making products that interests a person (because they’re making products now that interests new groups of people), it makes most sense just to migrate to another platform that fits that person’s needs better.
Then, what Apple does or doesn’t do doesn’t even matter to them anymore and they MAY find they’re in a better mood generally.
It's been awhile since I had my G4 PB, but I do remember many things not working after the first Intel Macs came out. People saw the future and moved on. New software being written didn't target PPC at all. I can't remember what first party things didn't work though.
With that said, the G4 PB was still a great machine for a long time. I even sold it to a friend who continued using it.
To the people upset. What is Apple supposed to do here? Not write any software that requires Apple Silicon specific features until all Macs have been replaced? They have been pretty forthcoming with what's happening. Anyone buying an Intel Mac now knows the transition away has already started.
But, the complaints do suggest a faster transition is better. That way there is less overlap time.
With that said, the G4 PB was still a great machine for a long time. I even sold it to a friend who continued using it.
To the people upset. What is Apple supposed to do here? Not write any software that requires Apple Silicon specific features until all Macs have been replaced? They have been pretty forthcoming with what's happening. Anyone buying an Intel Mac now knows the transition away has already started.
But, the complaints do suggest a faster transition is better. That way there is less overlap time.
Google did 3D globe of Earth 20 years ago without any neural engines lmaooo
Hackintosh isn't even a pimple on the butt of a percentage point in Apple's overall Mac sales. They could have decimated the mackintosh community years ago, but have basically taken a complete hands-off approach. The decision to move to Apple Silicon has absolutely zero to do with Hackintosh(ers) and everything to do with Apple controlling their own destiny and supply chain. This move was in the works even before Apple moved to Intel. NeXTstep/OpenStep and Rhapsody were processor agnostic going back almost 30 years and both NeXT and Apple have been RISC-oriented as far back as the Motorola 88110 CPU. Intel has never been the end-all, be-all, they're the odd-man out who just happened to be first and had enough money to buy off or outright destroy much better CPUs and platforms.
It’s anyway just the US and maybe a handful of cities outside the US.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Yeah, those 17 new Hackintoshes have hurt Apple’s computer sales
I bet we'll get something this year, but I'm in the same boat. I could talk myself into stepping down to that 24" display but I have a feeling I'd regret it when they drop an ultrathin 32" machine with an M2 or whatever it's called.
At least this drumbeat of missing features from the Intel side is making it clearer to me that no, even a good deal on an i7 or i9 iMac 5K is probably not gonna be a smart choice in the long run.
Love it or hate it, the writing is on the wall: we can expect more features to debut on Apple Silicon Macs that won't be on Intel Macs. Is this really a surprise to anyone?
My Mac has not been "deprecated", it is still on sale as the top model. Even when M1's are released Intel is still on sale. It is a live, current model. My Mac is not years old, it is a year and a bit old. I can go and buy it now for the same price, as people are currently doing.
I don't care what Apple has to pay, I paid the extra buck for Apple, I expect the new features for a bit more than one year!
I remember Amstrad from the 1980s in the UK, you paid for one model, a year later it was obsolete, and people accepted it because it was dirt cheap. Apple is not dirt cheap. Will any fanboy admit it is wrong? After just one year to not include new features? When I purchased my Mac, M1 were not on sale or announced, just one year and a bit ago.
Don't get me wrong, I really don't care, but Apple must stop pretending to care. It is a cut throat business!
I don't care what Apple has to pay, I paid the extra buck for Apple, I expect the new features for a bit more than one year!
I remember Amstrad from the 1980s in the UK, you paid for one model, a year later it was obsolete, and people accepted it because it was dirt cheap. Apple is not dirt cheap. Will any fanboy admit it is wrong? After just one year to not include new features? When I purchased my Mac, M1 were not on sale or announced, just one year and a bit ago.
Don't get me wrong, I really don't care, but Apple must stop pretending to care. It is a cut throat business!
Anyone that actually knows what they're talking about, can you quickly explain why this is BS? Because this feels like an artificial limitation to me. Why do these features NEED the neural engine?
Or with the new m2 because next year m3 with new features, the MacBook Pro is the new iPhone, all years more useless gimmicks until it gets bloated and abandoned.