Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs

[turbineseaplane]

The people moaning about feature parity will be the same people posting about not upgrading because they want to stay on Mojave.

Totally true!
Oh wait - no actually I'm on 11.4 it turns out -- hmm

 

[Stephen.R]

Why would additional languages on an existing feature or dictation past 60 seconds require the neural engine?

The “old” way might not really be real-time and thus you can’t just keep going forever you need to stop and let it catch up.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I think Apple need to tread a little more carefully with this transition. I have no immediate plans to replace my 2020 Intel MacBook Air, and Apple choosing to make some features unavailable to last years hardware might make me think about what I upgrade my ageing iMac with.

I guess you could replace your ageing iMac with a Windows system and have 0% of the Monterey features. That might work out better, actually.

 

[mkldev]

They are one of the largest, wealthiest company for a reason, they don't waste resources on things that won't make them money. All current Intel Macs still have all the features they came with, and those who are going to buy a new Intel Mac aren't going to cancel their order because of a 3d globe.

No, the reason they're one of the largest, wealthiest companies is that people buy their products because they know that the product will continue to improve over time. Requiring new hardware for FaceTime features that are considered basic features in everybody else's messaging system (supported on decade-old hardware) is the exact opposite of that.

That particular decision really hurts the Apple brand, IMO, and as a stockholder, I'm concerned.

The 3D globe, not so much.

FaceTime blurring is understandable, but everything else should be on intel by default. Seriously Apple?

Really? We're talking about a feature that can be implemented in JavaScript, and you think it's understandable for Apple's implementation to be so big and bloated that it can't work without dedicated tensor processing hardware? You must have a very low opinion of Apple's engineers. 😅

So were you outraged when M1 could run iOS apps? Of course there were some differences, as there should be.

That's a little different. Nobody expects Apple to implement a reverse Rosetta just so people can run iOS apps without recompiling.

 

[Joniz]

I heard the AS Macs won’t support Windows.

FU, Apple!

 

[dogslobber]

This is outrageous so I'm gonna stick with El Capitan to spite Apple.

 

[cmaier]

I guess you could replace your ageing iMac with a Windows system and have 0% of the Monterey features. That might work out better, actually.

I love this. It’s always “oh yeah! If apple doesn’t give me this feature, I’ll go buy a Dell (and still not have that, or any other, feature exclusive to macos)”

 

[smoooosher]

"oh Apple only owe you that the machine you buy now is compatible with the current features at the time of purchase" well...... if I go and buy this model now, in a few months it won't be able to run everything so that argument is flawed. Even in beta.

This happens all the time, with everything. New smart TV's come out all the time. New one has more features than the one you just bought yesterday. Should the manufacturer then supply yours with an update because of when you bought yours at full price, even though they sent out a press release of the new Spring 2021 TV coming out months ahead of its release?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

You’re missing the point.

there is a feature in the next release of macOS that requires the maximum amount of memory possible in any m1 Mac.

you really think that’s the only feature that’s going to require 16Gb in next years OS?

EVERY feature that requires the manipulation of a 8-15 GB data set in memory will require 16 GB. There will likely be several of these features. And, each of these features will have the same impact as AR Capture does on the general userbase. Which is verrrry close to zero.

 

[Joniz]

I love how long these comments are going.

Oh! There I go, adding to it.

 

[9927036]

If you buy a base-line M1 Mac (any 8GB model) now, it's also partly unsupported in Monterey.

So much for Apple saying that 8GB is all you need, not to mention all the YouTubers.

 

[Stephen.R]

And, each of these features will have the same impact as AR Capture does on the general userbase. Which is verrrry close to zero.

Where did you get your crystal ball from?

 

[mdnz]

Absolutely. Everyone knows that 99% of Mac users frequent these forums. Whatever Apple pays us..er.. them is a bargain when you consider how effective we are at keeping macrumors a mainly positive place with very few complaints.

/s

Good job not spotting a joke

 

[9927036]

Car companies do this all the time. Certain vehicles get the "new generation" of entertainment systems with lots of new features, functions and capabilities. While other vehicles from the same manufacturer will have a much older system, and they can both be model year 2022.

Who cares what car companies do. Cars and computers are really not comparable, let alone car manufacturers and computer manufacturers.

 

[iDento]

So the rumored Mac Pro with updated intel processor that will not be cheap for sure will not run these features? Sigh.

 

[9927036]

there’s still one more intel mac coming

Who would buy it?

 

[turbineseaplane]

Who would buy it?

Someone who needs to use Windows natively

 

[fishmoose]

Wow this is indeed ridiculous! Never would I have thought my 16” MBP would already be partly obsolete.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Apple has the perfect business scheme... they sell you something and you can use it just fine for the number of years they want and then you have to buy a new one... Imagine if you needed to buy a car every 5 years.

There are folks in these forums still using 2012 systems. Do THEY have to buy a new one? Nope, everyone has a choice to make and decide either to buy a new one or keep the one they have if it suits their needs. I don’t think the business scheme works the way you think it does OR it’s a poor scheme

 

[9927036]

You buy hardware for what it can do now, not for what it may bring in the future. You will be always disappointed if you think you are going to get any new features than it comes with. You did not sign any agreement with Apple to provide you with new features.

People who buy Intel Macs right now should not be looking at what macOS Monterey is going to give them, they should be looking at what Big Sur on that specific Intel Mac is giving them out of the box. Do not expect anything more, be surprised when they do give you new features but you should never expect it or expect Apple to be obligated at all to give you new toys.


Yes, it will. They did it before with Intel transition. The only reason this feels quicker than Intel is because of annual releases as opposed to 2-3 year release cycle we had back then.

In that case why not buy an Intel computer and run a Linux distribution? Why pay 2x for Apple hardware and software?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

BTW why do people keep bypassing the fact that this model is on sale now and the top model, yet it is not compatible with the new features? That is a significant thing. "oh Apple only owe you that the machine you buy now is compatible with the current features at the time of purchase" well...... if I go and buy this model now, in a few months it won't be able to run everything so that argument is flawed. Even in beta.

Because the “features” are equivalent to toys. Tell me that Universal Control isn’t supported, or Shareplay isn’t supported or I’m not getting the latest version of Safari, that’s a big deal. Tell me I can’t spin a globe… I mean, I’d imagine that’s a big deal to anyone that really enjoys spinning globes that, due to nullumaluphobia, they don’t want to spin Google’s globes. But, it seems a tiny thing to be outraged by.

 

[Stephen.R]

Who would buy it?

Depends on the specs/details/price.

an intel Mac is quite flexible when it comes to stuff you can build/run for/in VMs that also works on PCs running Windows or Linux.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Seriously? Like what?

AR Capture. I mean, you could say Quantity Surveying and it’d have the same impact to your average user.

 

[erich.j.k]

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The Augmented Reality capture requires 16GB main memory and 4GB VRAM.

It's obviously not a 'core function', but neither is a pretty spinning globe.

The point is more that assuming "well the base memory they sell it with is fine" is quite flawed, despite what some will insist.

Thank you, I missed that point as well.
On the other hand a lot of people are going to argue that the current M1 Macs audience won't care anyway. That's a "pro" feature for pros only and they'll get at least <insert base ram for all future pro models here> GB RAM.

Kind of wondering how this whole RAM thing with the SoCs works. 16GB RAM + 4 GB VRAM - wouldn't that mean they need 20 GB RAM altogether? I thought the memory on the M1 SoC is shared by all components?
I probably misunderstood that...

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Good job not spotting a joke

Good job not seeing the /s?