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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
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I got my first Apple II in 1978. I got my first Mac, a Fat Mac, in December of 1984. I started using NeXTSTEP as an early beta customer in September of 1988 (a bit over a month before the Cube was released at Davies Symphony Hall on the 25th of October, 1988). I had various NeXT computers, as well as HP, Sun and Intel systems that all ran NeXTSTEP and later OpenSTEP. So, I have been an Apple Customer for about 43 years, and an iOS/iPadOS/macOS/NeXTSTEP/OpenSTEP/tvOS/WatchOS customer for about 33 years.
I dealt with the transitions from the Apple II to Macintosh, the 68K to the PowerPC, PowerPC to Intel and now Intel to Apple Silicon, in Apple’s hardware, as well as the 68K to Intel, to HP PA-RISC to SPARC to macOS X in the NeXT World.
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Okay people, let’s look at it like this for what it is.
Apple is building tech using only m1 and not porting it to intel just to save money and force upgrades.
nothing their doing that cannot be done on a intel cpu, or gpu. Anyone defending Apple has been on mars or something because Apple is constantly ripped on for its anti consumer practices.
this is nothing new just Apple trying to screw over the consumer to increase sales, and doing the bare minimum in development of software.
Apple is giving a big f you to the millions of intel Mac users, including the OS end of life, where you can boot camp windows 10 on a 12 year old machine, yet windows 10 is more demanding OS. In fact so anti consumer people have to hack it to work on old os’s because Apple doesn’t give a **** about customers; every decision they make is driven by profit. Every single one.
the point is Apple doesn’t care about its consumers, they have a small product line and small hardware to support on ALL of its software, it’s completely doable. They could have kept 32bit on Mac, metal and non metal easily. But Apple with its anti consumer practice, knows that when you have a Mac you can’t upgrade to Mojave or newer you’ll have to buy a new one to use software.
it’s anti consumer and it’s bs.
they could support all features if they wanted to none of this is computationally difficult or has to have a m1, I’ve had tons of phone apps do the same thing for years and year and years, windows pcs too.
Apple is just anti consumer, with the death of boot camp on the m1 — Apple has now become replaceable. Windows computers are superior tools, minus the ****** manufactures.
class action Apple for anti consumer practices, enough is enough.
Apple is building tech using only m1 and not porting it to intel just to save money and force upgrades.
nothing their doing that cannot be done on a intel cpu, or gpu. Anyone defending Apple has been on mars or something because Apple is constantly ripped on for its anti consumer practices.
this is nothing new just Apple trying to screw over the consumer to increase sales, and doing the bare minimum in development of software.
Apple is giving a big f you to the millions of intel Mac users, including the OS end of life, where you can boot camp windows 10 on a 12 year old machine, yet windows 10 is more demanding OS. In fact so anti consumer people have to hack it to work on old os’s because Apple doesn’t give a **** about customers; every decision they make is driven by profit. Every single one.
the point is Apple doesn’t care about its consumers, they have a small product line and small hardware to support on ALL of its software, it’s completely doable. They could have kept 32bit on Mac, metal and non metal easily. But Apple with its anti consumer practice, knows that when you have a Mac you can’t upgrade to Mojave or newer you’ll have to buy a new one to use software.
it’s anti consumer and it’s bs.
they could support all features if they wanted to none of this is computationally difficult or has to have a m1, I’ve had tons of phone apps do the same thing for years and year and years, windows pcs too.
Apple is just anti consumer, with the death of boot camp on the m1 — Apple has now become replaceable. Windows computers are superior tools, minus the ****** manufactures.
class action Apple for anti consumer practices, enough is enough.
You mean: “let me make baseless statements that I hope will convince the unaware.”
No, Apple is repurposing development they did for their dominant platform (iOS/iPadOS) to their Apple Silicon Macintoshes because they are able to do it with very little effort since they now have a common hardware and code base. They are not taking Macintosh resources because (at a minimum), those resources would be better spent doing almost anything else (adding macOS specific features, improving performance, increasing reliability).
Intel CPUs, GPUs and AMD GPUs are all Turing complete. With enough time and resources, almost anything can be ported to almost anywhere. Whether that ported product will provide a good user experience is anyone’s guess.
Anyone who thinks that every (or even most) accusations that Apple is behaving in an anti-consumer manner are not just self-interested ploys for people who care not at all about consumers and just want to increase their profits or eliminate the choice that many Apple users have willingly and knowingly made is delusional. (e.g. FaceBook complaining about privacy, Spotify and Epic complaining about the App Store, etc.).
While reasonable people can argue in good faith for different approaches, it seems that most of those that want to destroy the Apple model that many of us prefer, refuse to acknowledge that they are trying to force us to give something up to get them a choice they can already have in a different ecosystem.
This is Apple deploying its resources in the best way benefiting the most macOS users by developing macOS specific functions, rather than wasting them duplicating iOS/iPadOS functions for old hardware that may or may not provide a reasonable user experience were they to even attempt it.
Apple is continuing to push macOS forward, including the development of amazing new hardware that has seen huge performance gains, while Intel has stagnated.
I do not have any idea what the pronoun references, so I have no idea what you mean here.
Really? Including those all the money they spend on reducing the environmental impact and employment conditions of its supply chain? What about their efforts for the women and minority developer academies? How about their ”Everyone Can Code!” curriculum? Those were all driven by profit? I guess if you take the broadest view such that Apple doing the right thing will improve the world and help support their image and get people to be happy about purchasing their products, that is true, but then every decision by every company is “driven by profit.”
Apple cares deeply about its customers. They work to provide them superior products and services, consistently maintaining the highest customer satisfaction in the industry.
So that nothing would ever move forward, while systems would be less stable. Apple understands that the only way to get customers and developers to move to better technology is to give them no choice. Apple made a clean break with ADB and moved everything to USB in one move. Windows on the other hand continued to support PS/2 mice and keyboards for years, meaning that most PC vendors did not move away from them until years later.
How can you not understand that if Apple’s users did not think these upgrade were worth it, that they would just move to the dominant platform (Windows)? Apple cannot force anyone to do anything.
It has produced a superior user experience and a tightly integrated ecosystem and it fantastic. It has also laid the foundation needed for the coming transition to Apple Silicon, enabling Apple to deliver high performance at lower power, something unmatched by Intel and AMD.
Given that all these features are available on other platforms and have been for years, why are you even here? If you are an Apple customer given how you feel they abuse you, why? If you are not an Apple customer, why do you waste your time complaining about them? Have you looked at the code for these features? How long did it take you to port them, so you can explain how easy it would be for Apple to do this?
Again, if the competition‘s products are superior, why do you care what Apple does? Apple is moving all its products to Apple Silicon. You feel Windows is superior, so why do you care that some unimportant features that you say you already have on Windows, will not be available on the Intel version of an inferior product?
Good luck with that.
I moved this to its own reply (since you had already commented on the other before I saved the edit):
I also lived with the CP/M to CP/M 86 to MS-DOS to DR-GEM, to Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows NT 4.0 to Windows 2000 to Windows XP, and SunOS to Solaris (coupled with the 68K to SPARC) and quite a few others.
While you were “in love“ with Apple, I have never been in love with them, and did not really even like them until NeXT acquired them in 1997. I used their hardware for various things. I prefer them now because their interests align with mine.
I care about privacy and security that means I like the App Store model as it makes both easier. Since they make money selling hardware not advertising, and their interest is maintaining the App Store as a walled garden our interests are aligned. I prefer a tightly integrated ecosystem, ensuring all my devices work together as seamlessly as possible. Again they provide this for me (and other customers) because it is in their interests to do so, not because they care about me as a person.
When our interests no longer align, and someone makes a product family I like better, I will leave. I wish there was a reasonable alternative, so they would have to compete harder, but so far I have not found one, and they are still doing very well.
There are many products I wish they made and many services I wish they provided, but I deal with the world as it is, not as I fantasize it to be.
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Not necessarily. There are possibly millions that WANT an m1, but, because they aren’t forced, they don’t have one.
Simply put, “If you want an m1, and have the money to buy an m1, you might get one”. Just wanting something does not equate to having it. Especially if you want, say, the apartment you’re renting far more than an m1.
It’s not so much defending Apple as it is… stating the truth?
No one is forced to upgrade. The m1 currently has a feature that an Intel based system doesn’t offer, Instant On. Pop open the lid and the computer’s ready to go. Now look at Apple’s M1 sales in the 4th quarter of last year. If everyone’s FORCED to upgrade, that would over 100 million in sales. I think you’ll find it’s nowhere near that.
Wow, can’t even keep your own thought from beginning to end. Apple’s forcing upgrades and, at the same time, are replaceable.
Similar to when bluetooth came along, you couldn’t just update the OS to implant a Bluetooth adapter. Maybe someday AI will get in cahoots with a 3D printer and call home to beam in new functionality to outdated equipment.
This is just a way to push people to buy a new Mac. I'm still using a 2015 15" MBP with Mojave/16GB Ram/1TB SSD. Why? Because it works perfectly fine. I have no need to spend $2,000+ on a new Mac.
Nobody is going to spend $2000 to get blurred facetime backgrounds. This is not a way to push people to buy a new Mac.
In other words,
“This is just a way to push people to buy a new Mac. Then again, maybe not because I’m an example of one of the millions that absolutely will not buy a new Mac for that reason.”
The new features in FaceTime have been in Google and Zoom for years, and for that reason most workplaces have already standardized on Google or Zoom. Intel Mac users are free to continue using Google and Zoom, and even M1 users are mostly still going to be forced to use Google and Zoom.
The new FaceTime features are a nice touch (and probably even work better than Google and Zoom), but you aren't being "abandoned" by not having them.
The new FaceTime features are a nice touch (and probably even work better than Google and Zoom), but you aren't being "abandoned" by not having them.
Lol exactly. People are like “oh yeah those awful Animoji renders and Gaussian blur totally need neural engine bro” - like, tell me you’re a Mac user who’s never experienced a real video game without telling me you’re a Mac user lmao. The mental gymnastics are brutal
Actually, the mental gymnastics of “APPLE ARE FORCING PEOPLE” without Apple actually forcing anyone to do anything is quite entertaining to see! Especially, “Apple’s forcing other people, but I’m the only one they’re NOT forcing. Just me. No one else”
Alright I don’t know what that paragraph was about, but I never said apple was forcing anyone. They’re purposefully excluding features just to push people to purchase their own silicon. Focus more on what you’re replying toActually, the mental gymnastics of “APPLE ARE FORCING PEOPLE” without Apple actually forcing anyone to do anything is quite entertaining to see! Especially, “Apple’s forcing other people, but I’m the only one they’re NOT forcing. Just me. No one else”
Oh, Apple’s not forcing, they’re PUSHING, they’re… ahh, they’re SHOVING folks, now can’t anyone see?. No one except for a few here in these forums will be able to resist Apple’s push to obtain… ahhh
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blurry video and spinning globes. Apparently.
And what random features these are. Why didn't Apple choose more significantly features, if they just want to push people to purchase their own silicon?
Thanks for the laugh. Class action lawsuit because Apple released new computers that have more features than the old ones.
There will always be people that want to have their 10-year old computer: 1) Run the latest OS but also 2) run their 20-year old 32-bit software. You can’t have everything. Tech moves forward, and it’s not just Apple.
Really? Are you sure? This was just last week:
I’d like to think your post was sarcastic, but…
I love responses like this. All the people who, in a single post, show that their conspiracy theory is obviously wrong.
“Apple is preventing people from using blurred backgrounds to force people to upgrade, yet, I am still happily running an OS that is three releases back with many more important feature differences.”
