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An interactive 3D globe doesn't require a neural network to display. Google Earth has had a 3D interactive map for almost fifteen years.

That depends on where the data is stored, how it is transmitted, and how the map is generated for the end-user...
 
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So much for the ongoing support for Intel based machines that Apple promised. All of those items in the exclusion list are possible on an Intel CPU..

What Apple really meant was "we promise partial support"...
Support != new features.

Do not confuse two unrelated things; Apple is promising they'll continue to support software as it comes with your purchase, they make no promises for future unrelated features or software.

No sane company do this unless you and the company have a contractual obligation to provide you with new features. Apple does not do this.
 
You buy hardware for what it can do now, not for what it may bring in the future. You will be always disappointed if you think you are going to get any new features than it comes with. You did not sign any agreement with Apple to provide you with new features.

People who buy Intel Macs right now should not be looking at what macOS Monterey is going to give them, they should be looking at what Big Sur on that specific Intel Mac is giving them out of the box. Do not expect anything more, be surprised when they do give you new features but you should never expect it or expect Apple to be obligated at all to give you new toys.


Yes, it will. They did it before with Intel transition. The only reason this feels quicker than Intel is because of annual releases as opposed to 2-3 year release cycle we had back then.

not saying it won’t be quick.

i am saying that the os released two years from now won’t be apple silicon only. there’s still one more intel mac coming

i could turn out to be wrong. time will tell

but i would put money on macOS 14 supporting intel
 
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Think of the ones that paid over $10 grand for a Mac Pro…

As someone who has a Mac Pro, these are features that don't add any value to a pro workflow. I doubt many other "pro" users care. I'd prefer a Snow Leopard release, where all Apple does is squash bugs. For example, there's a regression introduced in Big Sur with Apple's networking stack involving 802.1q VLANs and bridging (used for VMs).
 
Apple wants to get away from Intel as fast as possible. That’s why they dropped so many Macs from support this year, and why a lot of their features are M1-only (or at least M1 and T2 only). It seems like a lot of these features require the neural engine, but make no mistake: in a couple of years there may still be a few Intel Macs supported, but most of the features will be Apple Silicon only. Heck, even if you read Apple’s press release on macOS 12 they say that it runs on the M1 Macs, ”as well as Apple’s Intel-based Macs”. It’s pretty clear where their focus is.
 
Apple was dropping feature support from the 2013 Mac Pro when it was still current hardware. It sucks but they program the best features for the latest hardware not the last hardware.

Thats said, I am surprised by some of these. Most are pretty obvious machine learning tasks and the M1 is a better baseline for accomplishing those (while some Intel Macs certainly could) while others, like the globe, are odd.
 
PowerPC Macs had at least three years of support after the last one was discontinued, and five years of patches.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Cook's Apple kills off Intel support by 2023.
Not likely to happen, but go on thinking it. Even if, new OS features included things not supported on Intel, the existing OS will still work and be supported through the useful life. so no worries (Seriously, where do people come up with this?). and your theory falls down a little bit in that a new Mac Pro with Intel is likely.
 
Yeah, I’m starting to wonder if I just need to bite the bullet and sell my Intel Macs earlier than I normally would while the resale is still decent and eat the cost of the new machines. I was really wanting to wait for the second generation though so they could iron out any issues with the new designs for the 14” MacBook Pro and 32” 6K iMac.
 
It feels like Intel Macs are going to be killed off quickly.
Rather sooner than later id argue. It’s like Apple hates Intel Mac so much they’d throw all of them, brand new, straight to landfill if possible. :rolleyes:
 
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Car companies do this all the time. Certain vehicles get the "new generation" of entertainment systems with lots of new features, functions and capabilities. While other vehicles from the same manufacturer will have a much older system, and they can both be model year 2022.
to be fair....the prime point of computer is software. The prime point of a car is moving
 
Apple was dropping feature support from the 2013 Mac Pro when it was still current hardware. It sucks but they program the best features for the latest hardware not the last hardware.

Thats said, I am surprised by some of these. Most are pretty obvious machine learning tasks and the M1 is a better baseline for accomplishing those (while some Intel Macs certainly could) while others, like the globe, are odd.
Bummer how time moves on and new hardware gizmos come out rendering old ones obsolete. Just thinking this through, if you had an old computer with old hardware that still ran as originally specified and still received security updates, If new stuff cam along, would you limp along on an old computer that was due to be retired in a couple of years, or move on to newer technology?
 
Shame. That live text feature would have been really helpful for my work, the others I won't ever bother with them. Maps don't even work in my country. But if this trend continues then i believe I will replace my 2018 MBP much sooner than the expected.
Have you tried http://textsniper.app ? Works like magic, and not limited to text in photos.
 
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Tim is that you?

I'm surprised the list is actually that short — was expected a lot more features to be limited to Mac silicon.
Apple could’ve turned Intel Mac Monterey into Big Sur 2.0 with zero new features bars some visual changes. But that probably is a bit too much hate from Apple side.
 
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Think of the people who can't shell out this much and then point at those who can thinking it hurts to spend this much.
I know right? Like it doesn't fit into their existing work flow at all anymore because there is a new update and it doesn't support all the new features. Oh wait....
 
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Of course there is no strict technical reason why this can't run on an Intel CPU. Apple wants to sell hardware, so why the heck not, that's one of the perks when you have both software and hardware in your control. I honestly can't blame them, it's not like they are taking things away from you, they are just making clear that they find it rather convenient that they don't have to even attempt to optimize this stuff for x64. Good for them, they put a lot of energy into this, might just as well enjoy the position they are in right now.
 
Support != new features.

Do not confuse two unrelated things; Apple is promising they'll continue to support software as it comes with your purchase, they make no promises for future unrelated features or software.

No sane company do this unless you and the company have a contractual obligation to provide you with new features. Apple does not do this.

I'm not confusing it. Apple have fallen short, badly, especially when Apple are still selling Intel based consumer laptops.

I wouldn't blame anyone for being pissed if they'd spent thousands on an Intel based machine this year only to find that it won't be fully supported in the next OS release.
 
to be fair....the prime point of computer is software. The prime point of a car is moving
Yeah but these are all "nice to have" features (just like in a car). It's not like Apple is stopping development on an x86 browser, or took away the ability to open up a productivity document.
 
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Yeah, I’m starting to wonder if I just need to bite the bullet and sell my Intel Macs earlier than I normally would while the resale is still decent and eat the cost of the new machines. I was really wanting to wait for the second generation though so they could iron out any issues with the new designs for the 14” MacBook Pro and 32” 6K iMac.

Nah -- you have time

I'd keep waiting until we even see the next round of stuff. It might be more delayed than we think with how crazy supply chains and work environments were the last year.
 
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