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I am not attacking you, just seems that you are contradicting yourself in portraying you want a relationship (or do you not?) and recognize that you can't have one when based on physical right away but you make it seem as if that is what your end goal is to do that on the first date no?

Regardless, there are many nice guys and girls who do not need to bang right away in order to be swept off their feet in terms of liking each other

I totally understand. The whole debate I think is when sex should be introduced for a premium stable relationship. Some people like to wait months on end till they have sex, other's rule is to wait 2 weeks, or 2 dates. All i'm saying is that the sooner sex occurs, the better chance of her thinking to herself she really likes that guy...because she doesn't wanna tell herself she's a slut, and she'll tell all her friends she met the most amazing guy. Why is he amazing? Because i'm sure she, as with all girls, have numerous lame ass guy friends that are afraid to pull the trigger but yet this one guy managed to get in there somehow that quickly; so surely it must be love/fate/etc. Ask any girl, any girl at all, even your GF, and they all have a bucket full of guys that do lame a$$ jobs of flirting with them on a constantly daily basis... I've placed myself in that category before and it sucks. Just like how guys talk, girls talk even more (Sex and the City anyone?)

I don't even know what i'm saying anymore. lol.
 
Why does your post reek of hypocrisy to me at least?

Sounds like you don't want a relationship but rather a **** buddy....

Agreed, the OP's posts have been very hypocritical.

HappyDude20 said:
All i'm saying is that the sooner sex occurs, the better chance of her thinking to herself she really likes that guy...because she doesn't wanna tell herself she's a slut.

Really? This makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

HappyDude20 said:
I don't even know what i'm saying anymore.

Finally, something I can agree with you about.:p
 
I'm pleased it went well for both of you, sounds like you had a nice time.

Good luck in the future. :)
 
Jeez guys lay off him a bit yeah! I hope you don't analyze and criticize your own 'endeavors' the way you're doing for this guy.

If he says he'd be cool with a relationship with this girl then that's that. Who are you to suggest otherwise? Parts of his post may have seemed hypocritical, but he's the one in this relationship so who gives a s***. No need to go off on one and criticize everything he does - especially his methods for getting the girl excited about going out! It may seems cheesy or lame to you, but it worked and he's obviously good at it.

Clearly you know exactly what you're doing mate, you seem pretty smooth at this stuff! Enjoy
 
..But I pick her up. Minutes before picking her up I tell her I'm stuck on the freeway and a huge gas tanker explosion just occurred and was going to cancel our date. She was bummed but like 3 minutes later showed up at her door just to mess with her.
Pretty sure the only thing I can add that dukebound has not already hit on woud likely get me into trouble so I'll refrain for one. However, the comment above shows me that whether you're 21 or 12 that kind of "joke" is seriously twisted and sick. It speaks of an accident that would likely result in injury or worse. If this is your idea of funny then you have something in common with the girl you deem to be a sleaze for putting out on the first night.


Like stevensteven123 said, I hope you used a rubber ... but I also hope you had fun kid.
 
Pretty sure the only thing I can add that dukebound has not already hit on woud likely get me into trouble so I'll refrain for one. However, the comment above shows me that whether you're 21 or 12 that kind of "joke" is seriously twisted and sick. It speaks of an accident that would likely result in injury or worse. If this is your idea of funny then you have something in common with the girl you deem to be a sleaze for putting out on the first night.


Like stevensteven123 said, I hope you used a rubber ... but I also hope you had fun kid.

I did & I really did.
 
I totally understand. The whole debate I think is when sex should be introduced for a premium stable relationship. Some people like to wait months on end till they have sex, other's rule is to wait 2 weeks, or 2 dates. All i'm saying is that the sooner sex occurs, the better chance of her thinking to herself she really likes that guy...because she doesn't wanna tell herself she's a slut, and she'll tell all her friends she met the most amazing guy. Why is he amazing? Because i'm sure she, as with all girls, have numerous lame ass guy friends that are afraid to pull the trigger but yet this one guy managed to get in there somehow that quickly; so surely it must be love/fate/etc. Ask any girl, any girl at all, even your GF, and they all have a bucket full of guys that do lame a$$ jobs of flirting with them on a constantly daily basis... I've placed myself in that category before and it sucks. Just like how guys talk, girls talk even more (Sex and the City anyone?)

I don't even know what i'm saying anymore. lol.

Hmph ... I just started dating someone and we had sex on the first date.
 
Regardless of anything, I'm glad you, OP, had a good time and found someone you can connect with on a deeper level than cheesy pick-up lines and complements.
 

This makes sense. Most relationships that I have been involved in where sex took place immediately had little chance of working. It was based on sex so much that it was hard to truly get to know one another, again this is my experience.


So you have no issue sleeping with one on the first night? So you basically admitted you don't want a relationship as you yourself say they can't be based on "orgasms" and it is crossing an important part right away

Why does your post reek of hypocrisy to me at least? as you seem to imply you want a relationship but also just want to screw any attractive girl on the first night

I think he was saying what I said.. most relationships. It seems like he had a blast and sex happened...


Really? I mean really?

This actually was awesome. The situation was a little over-the-top but the principal behind it is genius. Show her you are fun right off the bat.


ucfgrad93 Agreed, the OP's posts have been very hypocritical.

Not really.


Really? This makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

This is perfect sense! It's just like telling a girl you are going to your place to play pool or guitar hero... if her friends ask she can say she played pool or guitar hero even if sex is all y'all do. It's an anti-slut excuse and it's how girls work.

Jeez guys lay off him a bit yeah! I hope you don't analyze and criticize your own 'endeavors' the way you're doing for this guy.

If he says he'd be cool with a relationship with this girl then that's that. Who are you to suggest otherwise? Parts of his post may have seemed hypocritical, but he's the one in this relationship so who gives a s***. No need to go off on one and criticize everything he does - especially his methods for getting the girl excited about going out! It may seems cheesy or lame to you, but it worked and he's obviously good at it.

Clearly you know exactly what you're doing mate, you seem pretty smooth at this stuff! Enjoy

+1

Pretty sure the only thing I can add that dukebound has not already hit on woud likely get me into trouble so I'll refrain for one. However, the comment above shows me that whether you're 21 or 12 that kind of "joke" is seriously twisted and sick. It speaks of an accident that would likely result in injury or worse. If this is your idea of funny then you have something in common with the girl you deem to be a sleaze for putting out on the first night.

Why so serious? Yeah his example was a little off the wall I will admit, but like I stated above: it is genius! Fun gets the girl more times than not and this is anything but boring.

My thoughts: The OP did awesome. He set up some great date venues, brought up sex nonchalantly and had a blast. He toyed with her emotions some and got her to interact.

Remember kids: Guys sexual tendencies are based on the physical aspects (what we see and touch). Girls are based on emotions (how comfortable they feel, passion etc..).
 
Congrats dude.

As long as you had fun, and you're both interested, that's all that matters.

Good luck on your future date(s); from the way you described it, you guys seemed to click pretty well, which is a good sign for the future.

Oh, about the sex-- its really different for everyone. With my last ex of 3 years we didn't have sex till about 6 months in... but that's not to say thats always the case nor should it always be the case-- just do what you think and feels right.
 
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