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SGS2 vs iPhone4
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Why can't people accept there can be two brands of killer phones. I say when all the dust settles there will be two top dogs this year. The iPhone5 and Nexus-3.0, or EVO-3D, both brands of phones will be great. Just take off your fanboy goggles.
I plan to get the EVO 3D next month, I LOVE my EVO 4G, rooted with custom ROM, but also keeping open mind to the iPhone5, if screen is 3.7" or 4", and they add good notification system, and some type of widgets or live apps, I will get the iPhone5.
I can give two shitts if my phone is an Apple or Android product, brand names means nothing to me, I just go for the features I like, on a good carrier with good pricing. Only a tool buys a product by name brand only. I have owned the iPhone3G and 3GS was very happy, then moved to the Nexus-One and now EVO 4G, and happy too. Both Apple and Google make good phones.
I plan to get the EVO 3D next month, I LOVE my EVO 4G, rooted with custom ROM, but also keeping open mind to the iPhone5, if screen is 3.7" or 4", and they add good notification system, and some type of widgets or live apps, I will get the iPhone5.
I can give two shitts if my phone is an Apple or Android product, brand names means nothing to me, I just go for the features I like, on a good carrier with good pricing. Only a tool buys a product by name brand only. I have owned the iPhone3G and 3GS was very happy, then moved to the Nexus-One and now EVO 4G, and happy too. Both Apple and Google make good phones.
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Buying by name i believe is going to ruin the market in the long run. We see it has already happened in the computer industry. Companies like ASUS makes some of the best hardware on the market and get past up because people want POS HPs and Dells or say apples are better, when studies have shown ASUS is the best manufacturer of laptops. The good companies began to cease to get recognition for their good products because people have the believe of APPLE =better then everything else possibly on the market without doing research.
You're partly right. However, off on the idea that brand names are bad. The reason most people relate to name brand IS because of quality. I can get store brand peanut butter, but having tasted both, I feel Skippy just tastes better. I can buy a shirt at Wal-Mart, but if I get similar shirt that's a named brand, it tends to last longer. And that's a fact, because I've done it.
if ASUS built great laptops, and marketed them properly, people would have bought them, and they'd be thriving. It's not the brands fault, it's the company that did poor marketing...
You are right that a majority of people buy without research. They buy blindly, then complain that the widget they bought doesn't do all of what they thought. Bad on them...don't blame the thing they purchased. If I buy a Chevy thinking it's going to be as good as an Audi, or drive as well as an Audi, that's my fault, not Chevy's.
ASUS has some of the best computers and components on the market. They also have no clue how to advertise effectively. Most people confuse them with ACER. The only people who know ASUS are the people who know tech.
How can Apple "raise the bar" after other companies have done so, many months before? This implies Apple are king of phones - rather a biased opinion. It's as if you're saying that a bar-raising is only valid, if Apple are the ones doing so, which is patently ridiculous.
It's all about diversity and choice, and Apple have (originally) set the bar, but this bar is now driving the technology forward, and if that means Apple being a few hundred metres behind in the race, for now, then so be it. There is no "iPhone killer", because it is not about all out victory, which is a terrible weakness in most "iPhone VS <x>phone" debates, it is about the continued and exciting evolution of cutting edge, gorgeous technology.
I love them all, for different reasons, but just don't be telling me that Apple have revolutionised anything - they've just proposed and created the best form factor, which others have nodded to, by way of imitating and improving on the designs of the iPhone... and so it carries on, back and forth, endlessly, no one device is EVER "king", it's just a great evolutionary process to to observe
It will not because apple lovers will just cry about some silly flaw with the phone for months. Most apple people have serious issues. Go look at the Ipad 2 posts.
How can Apple "raise the bar" after other companies have done so, many months before? This implies Apple are king of phones - rather a biased opinion. It's as if you're saying that a bar-raising is only valid, if Apple are the ones doing so, which is patently ridiculous.
It's all about diversity and choice, and Apple have (originally) set the bar, but this bar is now driving the technology forward, and if that means Apple being a few hundred metres behind in the race, for now, then so be it. There is no "iPhone killer", because it is not about all out victory, which is a terrible weakness in most "iPhone VS <x>phone" debates, it is about the continued and exciting evolution of cutting edge, gorgeous technology.
I love them all, for different reasons, but just don't be telling me that Apple have revolutionised anything - they've just proposed and created the best form factor, which others have nodded to, by way of imitating and improving on the designs of the iPhone... and so it carries on, back and forth, endlessly, no one device is EVER "king", it's just a great evolutionary process to to observe
Apple raises the bar every release ever since the initial release in 2007. Android phones still haven't reached the smoothness and stability of the original iPhone. The OS is laggy and no matter how good the hardware is, it is hindered by OS.
I wonder how long it will take Apple to catch up.
Seems like something is happening behind the curtain, perhaps Apple's having a problem sorting things out.
One thing, I bet they get the antenna right on this one
Seems like something is happening behind the curtain, perhaps Apple's having a problem sorting things out.
One thing, I bet they get the antenna right on this one
Gingerbread made Android phones silky smooth now. Add a 1.2GHz dual-core chip with 1GB of RAM, and it looks to be smooth and fast. I doubt Apple raises the standard this year. Nexus 3 will likely be quad-core and Ice Cream Sandwich looks like Android will be taken onto another level. Apple can never beat Android in hardware. Apple only has yearly announcements. Most Android OEM's still have to compete with each other which keeps them on the edge. The rate Android moves in hardware is just too fast for Apple to compete with. Everything from PlayStation phones to 3D to dual-screens to 1.2GHz multi-core, I just don't see Apple keeping this up. They are like the Spurs, Lakers, and Celtics. All look old and tired. "The changing of the guard." You could love Apple and still support them. Nothing wrong with that. But it is like supporting Kobe and staying loyal. Nothing stays on top forever and you can't be denial when something else is really better out there.
That fragmentation is Android's advantage and downfall. Too much hardware and too many choices.
HTC Sense 3.0 - A Closer Look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN_ch48mGac&feature=player_embedded
Compare this to iOS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN_ch48mGac&feature=player_embedded
Compare this to iOS4
Two threads about the Samsung Galaxy S II in page 1 of the iPhone forums. This should say something.
(iPhone 4->SGS II switcher here. Amazing headset. Destroys the iPhone 4 hands down)
(iPhone 4->SGS II switcher here. Amazing headset. Destroys the iPhone 4 hands down)
Two threads about the Samsung Galaxy S II in page 1 of the iPhone forums. This should say something.
(iPhone 4->SGS II switcher here. Amazing headset. Destroys the iPhone 4 hands down)
Go back to XDA. Do you really have nothing better to do at 4:30 on a Saturday?
Just surfing the web while waiting for my stop on the bus. You think we're still in the ages where we have to be in front of a computer to go online?
What year is this? 2006?
Nope, just trying to convince you to put you're energy into making friends, rather than trying to make people angry online. But, y'know, whatever makes you happy.
I too find it amazing that the Galaxy SII is getting all of this attention even here.
I does look like a great piece of hardware. But I want to see how the iPhone 5 works out and maybe even the next phone in the Nexus series. My cheap little Lg Optimus 1 can wait a few more months.
I does look like a great piece of hardware. But I want to see how the iPhone 5 works out and maybe even the next phone in the Nexus series. My cheap little Lg Optimus 1 can wait a few more months.
No doubt the Galaxy S II will be a great phone. I wish the best of luck for those who get it. I for one I want to wait. I want apple or Google to make an effort to sale me the phone, based on features and the other Bullish we care so much about. I want to wait until December to see the next Nexus phone. I hear LG has the honors this year. (if it is motorola I may go apple.)
Never before has there been such a consensus among mobile device reviewers. This phone is simply devastating. Comparing it to the iPhone 4 is a complete insult to the Galaxy S2. I honestly don't see Apple doing much to match this. By the time Apple comes out with something completely new, the SGS3 will follow. Just look at all the new tech coming out of Samsung. Just think of what they will be putting in their next devices. It's only gonna get more devastating. At that point, God help all other manufacturers. Because unlike Apple, they don't have to rely on anyone else. It's all in house. Welcome to a true OEM world. Someone else wrapped it up rather nicely.
GSMARENA:
"We just cannot see beyond the new Samsung flagship if were to name the ultimate smartphone."
ENGADGET (9/10)
"if you're asking us what smartphone to buy today, unconstrained by such externalities, the Galaxy S II would be the clear choice. Sometimes it's just as simple as that."
SLASHGEAR
"The Samsung Galaxy S2 has not only set a new bar for smartphones in 2011; it's smashed the bar, recreated it in its own image and put it out of reach of the competition."
TECHRADAR (5/5)
"But if you're after a one-word summary of the Samsung Galaxy S2: awesome."
ELECTRICPIG (5/5)
"Verdict - Of course you should buy this phone"
WOW. Sadly its going against apple. Not the iPhone but the logo of an apple with a bite taken out of it.
Perfectly said. This is nothing but the truth. The facts are there. If you hold the Galaxy S II in your hands, you will know that it's truly an insult to be even thinking the iPhone 4 was in the same class of devices.
Don't forget that 5-star consensus on Amazon. This phone is amazing.
I don't understand why some posters are championing the SII as some victory over Apple. It seems like a great phone, but it SHOULD be better seeing as it is almost a full calender year newer than the iPhone 4. Not really a fair comparison I would think.
Two threads about the Samsung Galaxy S II in page 1 of the iPhone forums. This should say something.
(iPhone 4->SGS II switcher here. Amazing headset. Destroys the iPhone 4 hands down)
Watching anime is your main reason for switching phones. That makes your opinion less than reliable.
Lol i'll never understand why a lot of you android folks (including Google execs!) are constantly obsessed with Apple and its users. It's always about one-upping the other party in every single (and often meaningless) way possible. Even though Google has its own merits despite the fact that they (and their OEMs) sometimes borrow Apple's (or another company's) ideas and flog it with 'speeds and feeds'
I'm an XDA member (own several smartphones) and its funny to me how there are a dearth of iOS users making noise on that forum. Yet here, Fandroids come and make noise for every single Google-related announcement. Ending with Google>Apple. Regardless of how ridiculous the comparisons are to begin with.
+1 but this is how Fandroids are. It's the same ol story. They come here and scream at the top of their lungs about perceived openness and give you a spreadsheet of specs. It was the same thing when the Galaxy S, Nexus One, HTC Desire came out. "OMG the "insert android flagship device of the week">iPhone. AMOLED screen, 1GHZ SD/HB CPU compared to that puny 600MHz hahaha...iPhone suxorz (even though the 3GS was no slouch still). Apple can't keep up. Apple is toast".
Then iPhone 4 came out...
Now the cycle continues.
I'm an XDA member (own several smartphones) and its funny to me how there are a dearth of iOS users making noise on that forum. Yet here, Fandroids come and make noise for every single Google-related announcement. Ending with Google>Apple. Regardless of how ridiculous the comparisons are to begin with.
I don't understand why some posters are championing the SII as some victory over Apple. It seems like a great phone, but it SHOULD be better seeing as it is almost a full calender year newer than the iPhone 4. Not really a fair comparison I would think.
+1 but this is how Fandroids are. It's the same ol story. They come here and scream at the top of their lungs about perceived openness and give you a spreadsheet of specs. It was the same thing when the Galaxy S, Nexus One, HTC Desire came out. "OMG the "insert android flagship device of the week">iPhone. AMOLED screen, 1GHZ SD/HB CPU compared to that puny 600MHz hahaha...iPhone suxorz (even though the 3GS was no slouch still). Apple can't keep up. Apple is toast".
Then iPhone 4 came out...
Now the cycle continues.