SGS2 vs iPhone4

[gimmeiphone]

I think it's individuals rather than groups who tend to bash products made by another company. On any particular Internet tech forum there are going to be some fans who are so blindly loyal that they're just not interested in thinking about what the development of competitors' products can mean for the products of the company they support.

I'm convinced that competition is good for both sides. Improvements made by either the Android side or Apple are bound to push/inspire the other to try to top what's just come out, and that HAS to be good for us - the consumers.

So actually there shouldn't be any fan wars here, it's win/win for us all.

Probably the most mature and accurate post ive come across on macrumors

 

[daneoni]

I have been reading those rumors that they are going to fix the notification system for years now so I have little hope of them fixing it.

I have not seen webOS's implenation of notifations so I can not speak to that.
I have spent the past week with my Atrix after coming from a blackberry. I like the pull down system on the Adriod for notification but kind of feel it gets a little over loaded in the amount of stuff that can get tossed up there. Blackberry on OS 5.0 and 4.6 I liked how it just put a little icon at the top that told you everything plus that kick ass led.

So you think Apple is just gonna leave it as is? come on now. Apple may not be into the keeping up with the jones game but they don't exactly sit idly either. When its fully baked it will debut. Software overhauls take time.

webOS's notification+gesture LED light>any other platform even BB OS...It's the best implementation out there IMHO and I'm really glad Apple scooped up the guy who designed it for Palm.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

So you think Apple is just gonna leave it as is? come on now. Apple may not be into the keeping up with the jones game but they don't exactly sit idly either. When its fully baked it will debut. Software overhauls take time.

webOS's notification+gesture LED light>any other platform even BB OS...It's the best implementation out there IMHO and I'm really glad Apple scooped up the guy who designed it for Palm.

From Apple on a real improvement to the notification system I am not expecting much at all. It took them 2 tries to even get the push notifications and even then they are not that good. They really do not work that well compared to others. The complete lack of little icons at the top is an issue. I do not expect them to fix that issue at all.

Android I love the fact that I can pull down the notification list and get more detail on them and jump to the respective app from there. When something comes in it does not give me an annoying as hell pop up but instead get a quick sound if I set it that way and then an icon at the top that I can respond to. Only thing that gives me a pop up is an SMS but that is because the client I am using I turned on that feature and right now I like it but I might turn it off in the future.

I looked up a video of WebOS notification system and I will say Damn that is nice. My only issue with it the location of were they put the stuff but other wise I love its design. I would rather it put the stuff at the top but that is me. The design is sweet and I think I would really love it.

 

[jman800]

Lets be real here

I hate it when people compare phones, they only focus on the speed.

There are so many factors besides speed that determine which phone is "Better"

What I'd like to see is how well this phone is holding up 6 months from now,
-Battery Life
-Stability
-Condition
-Etc

Because the half second difference time in loading doesn't make me swoon over the SG2.

 

[binaryblob]

I hate it when people compare phones, they only focus on the speed.

There are so many factors besides speed that determine which phone is "Better"

What I'd like to see is how well this phone is holding up 6 months from now,
-Battery Life
-Stability
-Condition
-Etc

Because the half second difference time in loading doesn't make me swoon over the SG2.

Yes I agree - speed is of no use at all.

... j/k

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I hate it when people compare phones, they only focus on the speed.

There are so many factors besides speed that determine which phone is "Better"

What I'd like to see is how well this phone is holding up 6 months from now,
-Battery Life
-Stability
-Condition
-Etc

Because the half second difference time in loading doesn't make me swoon over the SG2.

well from what I have been reading about the infused it is safe to say the G2 will have great battery life and it is very stable so that part is a none issue.

 

[Vegastouch]

well from what I have been reading about the infused it is safe to say the G2 will have great battery life and it is very stable so that part is a none issue.

Agree, the reason for the dual core is better battery life and speed and the GS2 battery goes to a 1650 mAh from a 1500 on the Galaxy S. That is the only thing i could gripe about with my Vibrant. The battery could be better.

 

[gimmeiphone]

iv had the sgs2 for over a week now and im pretty impressed with the battery life, thought with the huge screen and dual core n what not that battery life would be miserable, however, yesterday alone i surfed for over an hour on some sites, made a few calls and about 30 texts, watched a 720p tv episode, and played angry birds for about an hour and it was still above halfway. Also took a few pictures trying out the macro mode all in all lasts me around 2 full days

 

[binaryblob]

iv had the sgs2 for over a week now and im pretty impressed with the battery life, thought with the huge screen and dual core n what not that battery life would be miserable, however, yesterday alone i surfed for over an hour on some sites, made a few calls and about 30 texts, watched a 720p tv episode, and played angry birds for about an hour and it was still above halfway. Also took a few pictures trying out the macro mode all in all lasts me around 2 full days

Please, stop... I already want one, and now you're rubbing my face in it LOL!

I'm being serious, not sarcastic.

 

[Exhumed]

Really? That makes me want one less. That tells me Apple could easily put 4G in the next iPhone without compromising battery life. It's been heavily advertised and consumers want it; I think it's going to happen.

 

[Irishman]

Never before has there been such a consensus among mobile device reviewers. This phone is simply devastating. Comparing it to the iPhone 4 is a complete insult to the Galaxy S2. I honestly don't see Apple doing much to match this. By the time Apple comes out with something completely new, the SGS3 will follow. Just look at all the new tech coming out of Samsung. Just think of what they will be putting in their next devices. It's only gonna get more devastating. At that point, God help all other manufacturers. Because unlike Apple, they don't have to rely on anyone else. It's all in house. Welcome to a true OEM world. Someone else wrapped it up rather nicely.

GSMARENA:
"We just cannot see beyond the new Samsung flagship if we’re to name the ultimate smartphone."

ENGADGET (9/10)
"if you're asking us what smartphone to buy today, unconstrained by such externalities, the Galaxy S II would be the clear choice. Sometimes it's just as simple as that."

SLASHGEAR
"The Samsung Galaxy S2 has not only set a new bar for smartphones in 2011; it's smashed the bar, recreated it in its own image and put it out of reach of the competition."

TECHRADAR (5/5)
"But if you're after a one-word summary of the Samsung Galaxy S2: awesome."

ELECTRICPIG (5/5)
"Verdict - Of course you should buy this phone"

Dude, they're phones. Not the second coming. Phones don't "devastate".

WTH?

 

[gimmeiphone]

Please, stop... I already want one, and now you're rubbing my face in it LOL!

I'm being serious, not sarcastic.

i sold my iphone 4 32gb on ebay for £480, bought the sgs2 on o2 contract for 149 plus £10.50 per month 24 months, with £110 cahsback from topcashback, then with the rest bought an ipod touch 32gb from tesco with the double vouchers deal, got it for £150, so i have the best of both worlds now really love the sgs2 though, was really hesitant after having the retina display but the screen on sgs2 is really sharp, and very bright, havent looked back once but like i mentioned in another thread, im sure ill get an iphone again someday, just right now im enjoying this one

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Really? That makes me want one less. That tells me Apple could easily put 4G in the next iPhone without compromising battery life. It's been heavily advertised and consumers want it; I think it's going to happen.

Unless Apple goes SAMLO they can not pull it off. Reason that Samsung is getting the battery life is SAMLED screen. The back lit LCD screen used by Apple and most others is a huge drain on the battery.

 

[MotionxxUSxx]

i pre-ordered ths sgs2 to use alongside my iphone 4 but quickly canceled due to multiple complaints within the forums that the GPS has problems just like the original GS and the wifi strength is extremely weak. These are two important features that I can not get by without.

 

[Vegastouch]

i sold my iphone 4 32gb on ebay for £480, bought the sgs2 on o2 contract for 149 plus £10.50 per month 24 months, with £110 cahsback from topcashback, then with the rest bought an ipod touch 32gb from tesco with the double vouchers deal, got it for £150, so i have the best of both worlds now really love the sgs2 though, was really hesitant after having the retina display but the screen on sgs2 is really sharp, and very bright, havent looked back once but like i mentioned in another thread, im sure ill get an iphone again someday, just right now im enjoying this one

I think my Vibrant plays music really good so ill assume it is good on the GS2. The stock music player imo is pretty good but i did buy the App PowerAmp and that player is awesome!
And the earbuds that came with my Vibrant are MUCH better than the ones you get with the iPhone or iPod. I was surprised they sounded so good for stock earbuds. I still bought some Skull Candy buds though.

I use my Phone for music a lot more than i use my iPod.

 

[daneoni]

Unless Apple goes SAMLO they can not pull it off. Reason that Samsung is getting the battery life is SAMLED screen. The back lit LCD screen used by Apple and most others is a huge drain on the battery.

AMOLED technology uses more power than LCD when displaying non-dark/black backgrounds.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

AMOLED technology uses more power than LCD when displaying non-dark/black backgrounds.

But on average it uses less. The back lighting is what sucks down the juice. When ever something is off or darker it uses a hell of a lot less power.

 

[D1G1T4L]

Odd how many threads and conversations there are about the SGS2 here and just went to look at it and was amazed this is a phone that hasn't even been released in the US. Heck I didn't even see when it was coming.

So we are now fighting over a phone that hasn't been released in the US and have no clue when it will. Got to love it.

 

[walie]

Dude, they're phones. Not the second coming. Phones don't "devastate".

WTH?

but they can be "magical"?

 

[tigress666]

i pre-ordered ths sgs2 to use alongside my iphone 4 but quickly canceled due to multiple complaints within the forums that the GPS has problems just like the original GS and the wifi strength is extremely weak. These are two important features that I can not get by without.

Very true. GPS function is one of those things that would make or break a phone to me.

What sucks though is no one pays attention to those features, they just assume they work. So you can read reviews and few will actually check to see how well they work or compare. I mean when you see vs. it's always speed, screen quality and size, battery life, and camera *picture*quality* (I specify for reasons stated below).

Two things very important to me always seem to be ignored in both the vs. wars and even just reviews of the product. The GPS functions and, not the quality of the camera pictures, but how fast the camera is to respond to your input to take a picture.

For example, I saw a video of the Samsung phone mentioned in this thread from Samsung, and they spent a lot of time showing that you could save settings, and then finally showed it taking a picture... and that really didn't impress me, cause it took a few seconds before the camera actually took the picture after they pressed the take picture button. That would be a big negative in the phone for me (yes, the 3G was bad at this too, but I didn't care about the camera then. But the fact I had the 3G on me always when I wanted to take a picture and it was easy to show the pictures off with it made me start actually using my phone as a camera so it became important to me. That's one of the things that sold me on the 4, the better camera which was one of my few complaints about my phone). I also watched a video posted on here today of the Samsung vs. iphone camera quality. They showed the screen and yeah, the Samsung looked better, but they didn't actually bother to show either cameras taking a picture to show how fast they took a picture. That to me is far more important cause who cares how good quality the picture is if the thing I wanted to take a picture of moved before the camera bothered to take the picture (I tend to take pictures of animals a lot, you can't rely on them staying still)?!

 

[Irishman]

but they can be "magical"?

Even Steve-O didn't call the iPhone "magical"...come on ,that would be ridiculous.

But a tablet....hmmm..THAT could be magical

 

[gimmeiphone]

Very true. GPS function is one of those things that would make or break a phone to me.

What sucks though is no one pays attention to those features, they just assume they work. So you can read reviews and few will actually check to see how well they work or compare. I mean when you see vs. it's always speed, screen quality and size, battery life, and camera *picture*quality* (I specify for reasons stated below).

Two things very important to me always seem to be ignored in both the vs. wars and even just reviews of the product. The GPS functions and, not the quality of the camera pictures, but how fast the camera is to respond to your input to take a picture.

For example, I saw a video of the Samsung phone mentioned in this thread from Samsung, and they spent a lot of time showing that you could save settings, and then finally showed it taking a picture... and that really didn't impress me, cause it took a few seconds before the camera actually took the picture after they pressed the take picture button. That would be a big negative in the phone for me (yes, the 3G was bad at this too, but I didn't care about the camera then. But the fact I had the 3G on me always when I wanted to take a picture and it was easy to show the pictures off with it made me start actually using my phone as a camera so it became important to me. That's one of the things that sold me on the 4, the better camera which was one of my few complaints about my phone). I also watched a video posted on here today of the Samsung vs. iphone camera quality. They showed the screen and yeah, the Samsung looked better, but they didn't actually bother to show either cameras taking a picture to show how fast they took a picture. That to me is far more important cause who cares how good quality the picture is if the thing I wanted to take a picture of moved before the camera bothered to take the picture (I tend to take pictures of animals a lot, you can't rely on them staying still)?!

The gps on mine has been really good, a little more accurate than my ipod touch, its accurate to within a few meters, also if you were wondering, the camera opens almost instantly and shutter speed is super fast, a real plus for me!

 

[tigress666]

The gps on mine has been really good, a little more accurate than my ipod touch, its accurate to within a few meters, also if you were wondering, the camera opens almost instantly and shutter speed is super fast, a real plus for me!

Well I certainly hope it's better than your ipod touch since the touch has neither a GPS chip nor any way to triangulate using cellphone towers but has to use Wi-Fi and info from wi-fi connections to tell.

And shutter speed as in you press click and it actually clicks right after you press it nor does the shutter take a few seconds before it opens again (basically it takes the image pretty much as you see it vs. a second or two or more after you see it? I know the EVO I tested was horrible at this).

Granted, sometimes OS helps with that, the 3G I had was horrendous about that but got better with OS upgrades. But still the 4 was a most definite improvement over the 3G for that (as well as took better pictures in the dark even w/out flash. The 3G if it wasn't decently lit you might as well forget taking a pic as it would just come out as very washed out to nothing at all). As I said, the camera was one of the few things I wanted to see improved on the iphone (as well as the GPS which was a nice surprise, cause, once again, no one actually talked about the GPS or the fact they improved it. IT wasn't until I got the phone did I notice it was definitely far better than the 3G's GPS which was useful enough but definitely had issues like tending to lose me or not being able to accurately pin me or just taking a long time to find me).

Though I will admit that the iphone I have now somewhere along the way has started to take longer to load the camera app (soon as it loads it is fine). Which is kinda annoying. I attribute it to needs a faster chip to keep up with the screen (I do think that putting in a decently faster chip is a must for the next iphone but maybe that's cause I've been using my phone to game a lot . Though I do appreciate the selection of games for it *grin* and the fact that Squaresoft seems to be finding it a good platform as they are releasing IV and Chrono Trigger for it this year *grin*). It's still decently fast but I'll say for the fact it's the latest generation of iphone, it already started getting a little laggy halfway through the year (nothing that is annoying yet, but definitely think by the time the 2012 iphone comes along it will feel like my 3G did last year). Though I will say a lot of that lag was solved by keeping an eye on what apps were open. I don't think Apple did a great job of auto task managing honestly as it will let the iphone get bogged down if you don't manually close stuff.

 

[andy2141]

Well I'm probably in the minority here...

I had a iPhone 4, changed the the GS2 and are now back on the iPhone.

Don't get me wrong the GS2 is a pretty amazing phone, and by far the best Android phone I've used, but for me I just prefer the iPhone.

The battery was great, no lag at all, screen good (even outside) but at the end of the day it was just...meh. I think the biggest let down is the Android Market. For me the apps just aren't anything like as polished as those on iOS.

 

[annk]

Well I'm probably in the minority here...

I had a iPhone 4, changed the the GS2 and are now back on the iPhone.

Don't get me wrong the GS2 is a pretty amazing phone, and by far the best Android phone I've used, but for me I just prefer the iPhone.

The battery was great, no lag at all, screen good (even outside) but at the end of the day it was just...meh. I think the biggest let down is the Android Market. For me the apps just aren't anything like as polished as those on iOS.

I think you bring up an important point - the importance of apps. I use a few apps that I really like from the Android store, and what I have on my phone fits my "phone app" needs well. But I have some GREAT dictionary apps on my iPod Touch that I use for my studies and that I really wouldn't want to be without. They aren't available on the Android Market.

So if I didn't have the iPod, if I were a more intense app consumer, or if I weren't willing to carry around both a phone and an iPod, the app availability might be the make-or-break factor for me.

But it's nice for me, having just ordered an SGS2, to hear that as an iPhone user you still think the Samsung is a nice phone.