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Cook has succeeded alright. He created the greatest surveillance network ever! The bluetooth mesh network is an abomination and he should be tried as a criminal at the Hague. The NSA would gladly pay him $100m per year for access to that data stream.
 
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CEO compensation is so enormously out of whack with their specific contribution.

I'm all for everyone getting paid a ton more, way down the chain though
Yeah, but then again, you don't have his job and you don't know all the decisions he makes. No offense to you. I don't have his job either. But, we didn't get it. Maybe we are not qualified? Hence, we can't ask for that much money. Again, you might be and I'm not. Fair enough. But, if you think it's too much, get the job and ask for less pay. Again, not try to bash you. But, showing you the example that those who can do.

On the flip side, plenty of CEO get too much money for a crappy job. And, I really do think I can do better. Just not sure in Apple's case. Their a machine. Oiled by Tim Cook.
 
Wait isn't that the guy that was pushed out of Apple (for good reasons)?

Or was it the guy that was 5 minutes from crashing with NeXT when he was saved by Apple (and to be fair the other way round too).

Jobs was a lot of things and yeah most of the times he was a good CEO, but GOAT is bar much higher than that.
Oh, he made a fortune with Pixar before being saved.
 
Not clear who this group is? Do they comment only on Apple or all companies? All useful information if you are a shareholder trying to make decisions but Cook is worth every penny.
 
I think those people must conveniently forget the fact that many people struggle to pay for the basics and not realise that corporate greed (such as this) is a big part of that problem.
BS. Ninety-seven percent of employees work for what are called “small businesses”, not mega corporations.
 
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If those who build Apple products were included in my post, I am not sure what word I would use to describe the man because he's done nothing to make their lives better. All he cares about is how much money he makes the company and screw the people who build the products that allow him to become richer and richer. He get's richer and richer because he has made sure that the products the company makes are made in the poorest countries around the world. I will never ever raise a glass to the man or sing his praises. He disgusts me to my core due to doing nothing to improve the lives of those who make Apple products. As CEO he should do but he doesn't.
Yeah, make the products in wealthy countries, that’ll teach those poor nations. What a genius idea, guy.
 
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Could you provide a source on that please?
Sorry, mistake. The fact is 99.7% of businesses are small businesses, according to the US Small Business Administration (SBA), so not evil mega corporations as you seem to think is the case.

Here is another fact: there is a severe shortage of labor in the job market, with millions of jobs going wanting, many of them very high paying. If one is struggling, there has never been a better opportunity to change your prospects.
 
Sorry, mistake. The fact is 99.7% of businesses are small businesses, according to the US Small Business Administration (SBA), so not evil mega corporations as you seem to think is the case.

Here is another fact: there is a severe shortage of labor in the job market, with millions of jobs going wanting, many of them very high paying. If one is struggling, there has never been a better opportunity to change your prospects.
Sounds like that counts one shop and the entire Walmart corporation equally, each as one business. If so, 99.7% doesn't surprise me.
 
Which other “comparable” CEO grew their company to $3T?

Board should give it the consideration it deserves - straight to trash.
MSFT has been trading places with AAPL as #1 market cap.
TSLA isn't worth as much, but the growth was quicker.
 
If Apple was underperforming and coming out with ****** products, I'd agree with you. But they are firing on all cylinders and continue to bring out impressive, well-engineered products and services. Are they perfect in every way? No way, but that's not the point. Apple continues to be where the competition is aiming, and Tim is a major leader of that vision.
They're not doing anything groundbreaking. M1 was the most exciting product made since Jobs died, and in the end, it's just a faster processor.

Remember when Apple created an entirely new product category that spurned personal tech adoption worldwide? Then did it again? (No I don't count the iPad as world-changing, but it was also a new product category.)
 
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That direction would be downward since the direction they have been going has been upward. So no, I don't want a new direction.
Your mistaken implication is that there is only one axis that Apple is operating on. This is false. Under Tim’s watch, Apple has directed an inordinate focus to its financial axis, to the detriment of many other equally important axes (such as software quality and developer relations). Apple continues to be trending downward on these measures, and there’s only so long they can neglect these before internal and external factors throw their tenuous foundation off balance.
 
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Your mistaken implication is that there is only one axis that Apple is operating on. This is false. Under Tim’s watch, Apple has directed an inordinate focus to its financial axis, to the detriment of many other equally important axes (such as software quality and developer relations). Apple continues to be trending downward on these measures, and there’s only so long they can neglect these before internal and external factors throw their tenuous foundation off balance.
I actually think their software quality has been improving. People keep saying the opposite, but I remember clearly what it was like under Jobs, and stuff broke slightly more often if anything.

The thing is, they're not opening new doors, only milking what they already have. It's just boring, even when I was a shareholder.
 
Good. Nobody on this earth needs or deserves a $99 million pay package.

It’s entirely obscene and so is the fact people are defending it. Have people really lost touch with reality that badly?

Maybe give him $1 million which will allow him to live extremely comfortably for the year and spend the other $98 million improving salaries for the lowest paid employees. There’s a novel thought.

You might not be aware that CEO compensation and bonuses are never based on need.
 
It's less than Daniel Craig earned from his last Bond film, less than Netflix are paying him for the sequel to 'Knives out' and less than Spotify are paying Meghan and Harry to give just a couple of examples.
Zuckerberg was reportedly $23Bn poorer last week because of a newish anti- tracking feature in Safari.
I don't see a problem with Tim's pay.
 
No opinion other than I wish Tim would retire

I'm ready for a new direction for the company
I bet you are one of the people who is bored that Apple devices have incremental improvements rather than flashy redesigns every year.

"New" does not equal "better".
 
No
Single
Person
contributes that much to their company to warrant that kind of compensation. It's a team effort. One could even go as far as to say that many companies thrive despite and not thanks to their CEO.
 
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Wait isn't that the guy that was pushed out of Apple (for good reasons)?

Or was it the guy that was 5 minutes from crashing with NeXT when he was saved by Apple (and to be fair the other way round too).

Jobs was a lot of things and yeah most of the times he was a good CEO, but GOAT is bar much higher than that.

Let's not forget that Steve Jobs also crapped his pants every single day for the first two years of his life.

How can you possibly call someone like that the CEO GOAT?
 
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