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No, it doesn't. The iPod touch packaging looks better. This looks flimsy.

I don't really see the point of the clear plastic packages anyway. Do stores have iPhones sitting on shelves in view of the public?

When I got my iPhone 4S... it came by FedEx.

I didn't grab it off the shelf and take it to the counter :)
 
I don't really see the point of the clear plastic packages anyway. Do stores have iPhones sitting on shelves in view of the public?

When I got my iPhone 4S... it came by FedEx.

I didn't grab it off the shelf and take it to the counter :)

That's a good question. I know that iPod touches are seen in their clear packaging at Best Buy in locked glass cabinets. Perhaps the lower-cost iPhone will get the same treatment?

Also, color being the differentiating "feature" here, I think it was important for them to showcase the color as it is in real life, rather than have a printed photo representation of the color.
 
Thanks for this. Answers like these are what makes this forum honestly the only one that I keep coming back to.

I absolutely agree with you. In terms of plastic I was referring to the new generations of bio-plastics that are produced through fermentation or other processes. Some of these types of plastics are actually biodegradable and in quality very very close to the types of plastics we see every day. I currently do some consulting work for a bio-process facility that tests scale-up processes for these bio-plastics and it's amazing what they can produce even in large quantities. Unfortunately the quality of these plastics is not yet high enough for consumer electronics, but we are getting close.

I agree with your concern about the disposing of the handsets, but many of them go from hand to hand once or twice and I think on the whole the impact of smartphone-garbage pales in comparison to the amount of plastic grocery bags and other garbage we throw away each day.

Thanks again for those links and info!

And posts such as yours are the reason I enjoy discussions here, it's refreshing among some threads that get personal. Thank you :)

Biodegradable plastics are fascinating and research in the field is promising. OBD plastics are a big concern, especially regarding plastic bags as you mentioned (take longer to degrade and release metals). Additionally, OBD doesn't fully degrade.

An alarming aspect with bioplastics is the tax on the worlds food supply and carbon footprint used in production. Approximately 270 million tons of plastic are made annually, moving to corn-derived polylactic acid would remove 715 million tons in a time when global climate change is reducing tropical farm productivity.

Currently, the most practical solution is to avoid plastics as much as possible. Use reusable grocery bags, coffee cups (Starbucks discounts customers with their own containers), glass food containers, and most importantly biodegradable garbage bags (I use a brand stronger than "Glad" and cheaper). Chemicals from plastic "tupperware"/storage containers can leak into food as dishwashing in high temps and cold and/or hot storage break down the material over time. Sheryl Crow became environmentally active after researching how she contracted a type of cancer with no family history and in good health. She discovered water bottles left in cars would heat up, leaching plastic chemicals into the water (on the road, she often drank water from bottles left in the sun). Not getting into specifics, years of scientific research have indicated this is more common than we once believed.

A friend moved to Israel two years ago to work in marketing for green tech. Had no idea Israel is one of if not the greenest nation on the planet, and is developing ground breaking tech in clean, renewable energy every year. I wish more consumers would vote with their dollars, research the products they use and the companies they support, and disregard the rhetoric from corporate owned cable "news". Corporations have a lot to lose if the oil and gas based economy changes. At some point it will have to as much of what we use is made from oil. Vehicles consist a great deal of plastic, imagine when oil becomes even more taxed how much prices will increase.

Hydrogen fuel cell has become a viable alternative to gas powered vehicles. Then Sen. Hillary Clinton brokered a deal with GM and NYS to produce hydrogen fuel cell vehicles for the army and RIT recently received millions in research grants for mass production of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Toyota, Ford, Nissan, BMW, Daimler - many have hydrogen fuel cell prototypes in California, Texas, Florida, NY. Fueling stations utilize new solar paneling, 1'x1' panels are now 1"x1". Extracting hydrogen from water is a simple process, fueling stations use automated systems to fill tanks, and other power sources are not taxed. The vehicles have less moving parts than traditional combustion engines, allowing for improved fuel efficiency and increased safety measures. The chemical reaction of hydrogen uniting with oxygen in the atmosphere produces water vapor and/or fresh drinking water (Army vehicles have "tanks" that collect the fresh water for drinking while in area's with sparse water supplies such as the Middle East). Additionally, hydrogen fuel cell vehicles have proven safer than gasoline vehicles. The electric car is not the answer as it merely taxes current power plants. Imagine if everyone drove electric vehicles on our power grids.

Most of us here are tech savvy. The new technology used in green energy research and development alone is fascinating. Humanity needs to realize that we're living on borrowed time. If we do not change how we live by taking responsibility for our collective actions and educate ourselves and each other on ways to reduce our burden and waste, it will be too late. Implementing plastic in an extremely popular electronic device will not be good, consumers may use second hand devices but at some point those millions of units sold annually have to go somewhere.
 
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That's a good question. I know that iPod touches are seen in their clear packaging at Best Buy in locked glass cabinets. Perhaps the lower-cost iPhone will get the same treatment?

Also, color being the differentiating "feature" here, I think it was important for them to showcase the color as it is in real life, rather than have a printed photo representation of the color.

Yeah that's true.

At best they'd be locked up somewhere.
 
You are deluded. I will prove you wrong on September 10th.

A little delusion in life never hurt anybody ;) although I prefer to call it positive scepticism. It's all about the bigger picture with Apple. If making blatant mistakes in security for one product can cover the release of another then that could be a sacrifice worth making. But your right, it is most likely deluded. Time will tell.
 
I don't really see the point of the clear plastic packages anyway. Do stores have iPhones sitting on shelves in view of the public?

When I got my iPhone 4S... it came by FedEx.

I didn't grab it off the shelf and take it to the counter :)

Apple use this packaging for numerous products, and I think it's clever. It makes you see the device and gives you the illusion that it's within reach, financially. Unlike the fancy iPhone 5s, packaged in its fancy box, this one is ready for you to 'grab' (even if the store does not have them on shelves in public.

BTW, I ordered TP from soap.com and it came via Fedex - so I don't see what's the link.
 
I'm sorry, but there is a HUGE difference in the packaging. The 'background color' of the sticker is the same as the device. That makes it look so... cheap. At least from far away. I'd rather they all had the same background-image. But then, who am I.

That is what they do with the current iPods I believe.

I never said they were actual units, only that it looks a lot like the current iPod packaging.

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Now one difference between the current iPod packaging and the pic in the story is the text on the current iPods matches the device, the pics in the story don't seem to.

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No... iPod packaging is only curved around the sides – this has curves leading from the sides onto both the back and front of the packaging as well as the curved corners. It's far less premium looking.

I never claimed the pics are real, only that it looks similar to the current iPod packing. Similar does not mean 'exactly'.
 
Apple use this packaging for numerous products, and I think it's clever. It makes you see the device and gives you the illusion that it's within reach, financially. Unlike the fancy iPhone 5s, packaged in its fancy box, this one is ready for you to 'grab' (even if the store does not have them on shelves in public.

BTW, I ordered TP from soap.com and it came via Fedex - so I don't see what's the link.

My point was... you probably don't even see the packaging until you ask the clerk to get one for you. iPhones are kept "out of reach" :)

And the FedEx thing is even more proof... I ordered and paid for my iPhone 4S at the Verizon store without even seeing the packaging!
 
Not going to happen. 16GB for the 5C, 5S starts at 32GB. That will help differentiate the two models.

Maybe 5 starts at 32GB and same as 5S. That will differentiate als 3 models. I don't see iPhone 5 is gone because 2 models of iPhone in 3 tiers would be a dumb strategy. I still think 3 models of iPhone make perfect sense:

16GB 5c
32/64GB 5
32/64/128GB 5s
 
They usually have at least 3 models to chose from in each product with some degree of overlap so my guess is we will see a 8GB, 16GB and 32GB iPhone 5C with the iPhone 5S upped to 32GB, 64GB and 128GB.

Possibly. I just stated what I would do. That will be a huge number of SKU's, but if the demand is there, they would be smart to capitalize on it.

It could also be a situation like the first gen iPod touch and iPad 4 where a higher storage model releases a 4-5 months later.
 
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That's funny, I thought Apple was currently cutting edge in hardware design and that it was the OS that was outdated and needed iOS 7 to bring it up to par...

Retina is no longer class leading (hasn't been for a while)

Many folks want a larger screen

No longer the leader in "thin" design.

iOS7 addresses weaknesses in the OS...so I consider that issue solved.

iPhone4 was a technological leap in hardware design. iPhone5 was an evolution of a design that has been around for essentially three years now. The iPhone has had essentially two hardware designs since launch.
 
Serious question:

Is plastic manufacturing that much cheaper/easier than aluminum?

Check out the forums, do you know how many people have taken an electron microscope to their brand-new iPhone 5 and seen a tiny little imperfection related to the aluminum?

What do you think these folks did with those phones? Of course they returned it to the store for one that was "perfect". And when they opened that box, it also had a little nick in the aluminum. So they wanted another one, and then another, etc., etc.

Factor in the precision-placed back glass pieces (remember the video?) and chamfering the edges, etc., and I think the iPhone 5 is probably a very expensive phone to make and to sell.
 
FWIW bio-plastics are good enough for BMW and Mercedes parts so I think the quality is there (Bimmer and Cedes customers are picky!). Can they produce the sort of impact-resistant-yet-hard-feeling -and-scratch-resistant plastics required for a phone shell in sufficient quantity to meet demand though?
 
Check out the forums, do you know how many people have taken an electron microscope to their brand-new iPhone 5 and seen a tiny little imperfection related to the aluminum?

What do you think these folks did with those phones? Of course they returned it to the store for one that was "perfect". And when they opened that box, it also had a little nick in the aluminum. So they wanted another one, and then another, etc., etc.

Factor in the precision-placed back glass pieces (remember the video?) and chamfering the edges, etc., and I think the iPhone 5 is probably a very expensive phone to make and to sell.

Good point(s). However, those phones are shipped to Apple centers for inspection and selling (either as replacements or otherwise). Even so, recycling aluminium uses about 5% of the energy required to create aluminium from bauxite; the amount of energy required to convert aluminium oxide into aluminium can be vividly seen when the process is reversed during the combustion of thermite or ammonium perchlorate composite propellant.

Read my post #132 as this isn't necessarily true. :)
 
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