Shooting 4K ProRes Video Requires iPhone 13 Pro With at Least 256GB Storage

[JippaLippa]

Give the users the choice...
Personally I'd only shoot short videos, and I have 100GB of iCloud storage, therefore making 128GB enough.
Not that I could afford an iPhone 13 Pro anyway 😅

 

[FightTheFuture]

Not on the 128GB model? This is terrible news for the three non-Apple sponsored people who will use this feature more than one time.

Video productions use multiple cameras, beyond Red and BlackMagic setups include GoPros to drones, and sometimes iPhones. You can really squeeze an iPhone into tight spaces that others can't.

 

[Drogba11]

Then the base should have been 256GB.

Common sense. Now the 128GB is not is pro as the 256GB and above pros which are the most pro phones apple has ever made.

 

[rafark]

It's a silly decision by Apple. If a user doesn't have enough free space, the app can display a warning. But there's no reason to lock out all 128GB users.

It’s Siri on the 4s only all over again.

 

[FNH15]

Apple has truly lost it they droned on about how important Type-C was on the iPad mini to interact with devices and do large data transfers. But it has a weak sauce camera....

Then they talk about high quality massive data usage around filming with iPhone 13 Pro. USB 2.0 transfer rates no Type-C.

"Pro"

You can get USB 3.0 transfer speeds on the newer iOS devices with a USB-C to Lightening cable. I believe that started with the 2nd gen iPad Pro 12.9.

heres’s my source: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/12/ipad-pro-lightning-port-usb-3-0-speeds/

 

[J.Dillinger]

Probably a speed thing, but also.... ProRes be phat file sizes. If they are the same to their native desktop counter parts, you're gonna need the massive hard drive.

4k is 4k. I’d say it’s more for IOPS.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Why is no one pointing out that strands of hair look like a blurry mess when cinema mode is enabled, especially in the first shot. This phone is perfect if you have an all-bald cast.

 

[dannyyankou]

I understand ProRes might take up something crazy like 5gb per minute, but if someone wants to fill up their 128gb iPhone with just ProRes videos, who's Apple to tell them they can't?

I imagine there will quickly be a jailbreak tweak to get around this.

 

[Pirate!]

If you’re not planning on editing videos, is there any reason to need/want pro res working on your phone?

 

[contacos]

Leave it to Apple to release a „Pro“ device that cannot even be used as a „Pro“ device due to their penny pinching when it comes to storage.

obligatory Steve Jobs would never

 

[gigapocket1]

Considering that once u get close 20 minutes of video, you would be out of space. I would say that this is a smart decision on their part

 

[dannyyankou]

If you’re not planning on editing videos, is there any reason to need/want pro res working on your phone?

Obviously it won't provide much benefit to the average user, but at least give them the choice. The hardware is already there.

 

[Techwatcher]

Considering that once u get close 20 minutes of video, you would be out of space. I would say that this is a smart decision on their part

No. They should've left it as an option. If you have iCloud you have space. Never had issues with my 64 GB iPhone 11 Pro Max shooting in 4K because of that.

 

[Matthew Yohe]

Unclear what ProRes profile is being used here, but assuming it's Apple ProRes 4444 XQ, the data rate ( per https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper.pdf ) shows:
4k (3840 x 2160) @ 30p is 1989 Mb/s or 248.625 MB/s.

So a 60 second shot in ProRes would be about 15 GB, giving you 5-6 minutes of video on a 128GB phone?

 

[Pirate!]

Obviously it won't provide much benefit to the average user, but at least give them the choice. The hardware is already there.

K, thanks. Definitely agree on the last comment. But for me, I think 128 is fine as videos are mostly off my kids with no editing. Much more interested in telephoto and macro capabilities.

 

[dannyyankou]

Considering that once u get close 20 minutes of video, you would be out of space. I would say that this is a smart decision on their part

What's the worst that will happen if they enable the feature? Someone takes a bunch of video and realizes their phone is out of space, then deletes it? Then they'll just turn the feature off and never use it again.

But some people might be curious and do some test shots to see how it looks. I mean I don't like Apple deciding what's best for peope, especially when the hardware is already capable

 

[mannyvel]

I've been recording 4k@24fps HEVC on my 12pmx, and it's about 6gb/hour. The same file in ProRes apparently is 466GB/hr in ProRes 444 and 318GB/hr in ProRes HQ. Ouch!

 

[Apple$]

I've been recording 4k@24fps HEVC on my 12pmx, and it's about 6gb/hour. The same file in ProRes apparently is 466GB/hr in ProRes 444 and 318GB/hr in ProRes HQ. Ouch!

At that point, Apple should've made 2 TB and 4 TB models available.

 

[PhillyGuy72]

ProRes are MASSIVE size clips, it's not shocking...but now they really should have ditched the 128gb.
Some may not realize this, order a 128 and be VERY upset when the phone cant do what they hoped for.
| Plus ProRes won't come out until a later update...so 14 day return goes by, 128 users will never get that feature in a month or 2 - whenever that may come out.

 

[bobob]

I liked this comment via Reddit:

"The Venn diagram between people who actually care about shooting ProRes on a damn phone and people who want to save money by buying the base model may as well be two circles in different rooms"

 

[0924487]

It’s definitely space related, not speed related. 128GB is not even enough for me to restore my iCloud backup so space for those 4K video is going to be crazy.

What if you use an external SSD?

 

[aaronhead14]

Also, have they announced which flavor(s) of ProRes it supports? There are 6 types of ProRes.... I imagine it'll probably only support LT or 422?

 

[Shirasaki]

What if you use an external SSD?

Can iPhone really practically connect to any SSD through wire and use it in some meaningful way, assuming software can support it?

 

[mannyvel]

At that point, Apple should've made 2 TB and 4 TB models available.

I've actually wondered how people handle these file sizes. 4k/60fps basically is 15GB/hr or so, and pulling big files off an iPhone is an exercise in patience.

I've read that Filmic pro can record to external storage, and I assume you need the usb3 camera adapter for high speed. Maybe I'll try that route.

 

[0924487]

Can iPhone really practically connect to any SSD through wire and use it in some meaningful way, assuming software can support it?

With a power bank and a USB C port, I would hope so.