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What he said. Rumor has it a new SE is coming, but the current one is basically an iPhone 6 or 6s internally if i recall. I.e., very old.
Lol. 6S internals which date all the way back to the dimly remembered days of ye olde 2015. Ancient! I think my great grandma might have owned a 6S when she was just a girl..
 
I have a new SE (and a new 6s).I choose the SE over the iPhone 7/8 for several reasons.

1. Smaller footprint.
2. Iconic design.
3. Speedy as hell!
4. Long battery life— iPhone 6/6s/7 and the Plus variants have all taken a hard hit in battery life since iOS 11 yet my SE is still the king of battery life due to it’s smaller screen.

Everyone is different and thus everyones needs are different. But with that said, I have to admit that for most, the SE is a very viable options, especially given it’s much lower price point. Cheers!
 
Lol. 6S internals which date all the way back to the dimly remembered days of ye olde 2015. Ancient! I think my great grandma might have owned a 6S when she was just a girl..

2 years in mobile terms is a long time. This tech is moving extremely quickly.

if you buy 2 year old hardware today, don’t expect it to be usable for 3-5 years.

The performance difference between iphone 6s spec and iphone 7 or 8 is massive. The RAM capacity, which will impact longevity is significant. Whether or not you need the performance today, longevity is worth something, and right now the SE is nearing end of sale. End of support typically follows X years after end of sale.

I’m not saying is a garbage phone, but given the choice of waiting a few months for them to update it, or buying something else, i know what i’d recommend, if you can wait.
 
SE doesn't have OIS, that is something you want to keep in mind.

Hopefully, SE2 will have it.
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I don't care much about the resolution on the SE because it's already Retina display, the things I'd like is 3D Touch, newer generation Touch ID & the latest camera from the iPhone 8, that's it. I'll buy it without a second thought.


Exactly!

It's a 4 inch screen, why do people want higher resolution anyway? To drain the battery faster? Now that's a thought.

However, there is a big diff between 1st gen Touch ID and 2nd Gen Touch ID, SE needs 2nd Gen.

OIS in camera is important too, which is lacking in current SE.


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2 years in mobile terms is a long time. This tech is moving extremely quickly.

if you buy 2 year old hardware today, don’t expect it to be usable for 3-5 years.

The performance difference between iphone 6s spec and iphone 7 or 8 is massive. The RAM capacity, which will impact longevity is significant. Whether or not you need the performance today, longevity is worth something, and right now the SE is nearing end of sale. End of support typically follows X years after end of sale.

I’m not saying is a garbage phone, but given the choice of waiting a few months for them to update it, or buying something else, i know what i’d recommend, if you can wait.

I don't know what you are on about.

The longevity of iOS device has always been, and will always be, determined by Apple's greediness, rather than the hardware.
Doesn't matter how powerful the chip is in 7 or 8, if Apple decides that your device should run poorly, it will run poorly. Period.
 
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I don't know what you are on about.

The longevity of iOS device has always been, and will always be, determined by Apple's greediness, rather than the hardware.
Doesn't matter how powerful the chip is in 7 or 8, if Apple decides that your device should run poorly, it will run poorly. Period.


No. Hardware support is based on age and spec.

Apple drops old devices after they have been supported for at least a few years after end of sale.

I’m not talking about running poorly, i’m talking about end of software updates (and thus, end of security updates).

If you buy an iphone SE today rather than waiting until the new SE comes out, or buying something current, you will get a shorter period of software support. If you care about security updates and software support, buying an SE now is not a great idea.
 
2 years in mobile terms is a long time. This tech is moving extremely quickly.

if you buy 2 year old hardware today, don’t expect it to be usable for 3-5 years.

If I buy a current iPhone today (and the SE is a current iPhone) I expect it to be perfectly useable for the next few years. And it will be.

The performance difference between iphone 6s spec and iphone 7 or 8 is massive. The RAM capacity, which will impact longevity is significant.

Newsflash - the SE (and the 6S for that matter) has the exact same 2GB as the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 8. On that basis it has the same longevity as the phone they launched last week.

The performance differences between the last few generations of chip are not that huge, a lot of the recent developments have been around power efficiency, which the SE sidesteps by having a smaller screen and excellent battery life anyway. Likewise that smaller screen also helps the A9’s overall performance too.

But remember the A9 is a chip that Apple saw fit to put into a brand new iPad this year - and not just any iPad but the one whcih Apple obviously expect to replace the iPad 2 as the education/institutional buyers favourite. It has long term support written all over it.

Whether or not you need the performance today, longevity is worth something, and right now the SE is nearing end of sale. End of support typically follows X years after end of sale.

X years? Another newsflash, support for the iPhone X will end in X years. That’s a meaningless statement, all iPhones are temporary, but for the money it’ll cost you upfront (diddly squat) the SE will last plenty long enough. Let’s be honest, for most people “long enough” is only their two year contract term anyway.

I’m not saying is a garbage phone, but given the choice of waiting a few months for them to update it, or buying something else, i know what i’d recommend, if you can wait.

Best guess by anyone is maybe an update in March - that’s still half a year away, and there’s a still a good chance it may not materialise at all.

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No. Hardware support is based on age and spec.

Apple drops old devices after they have been supported for at least a few years after end of sale.

I’m not talking about running poorly, i’m talking about end of software updates (and thus, end of security updates).

Security updates don’t end just because a device doesn’t get the latest iOS anymore, older versions are still updated for significant security flaws. That aside, you still need to define “few years” and how important that really is to the purchase of a new, current device right now. I’m typing this on an iPad Air that’s four years old, still fully supported, running iOS 11.0.1 btw - should I have worried when I bought it that I might “only” get 4 years of full support for it?

If you buy an iphone SE today rather than waiting until the new SE comes out, or buying something current, you will get a shorter period of software support. If you care about security updates and software support, buying an SE now is not a great idea.

Again, you’re quite wrong to bundle security updates into the equation. And again - how long do you expect anyone to be keeping this phone?
 
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well said @Dented !

hopefully they'll keep it around and release new SE, if so it will get small spec bump - new cpu (A10, maybe A11), new front\rear cameras (hopefully with OIS) and 2nd Gen Touch ID. 3D touch would be nice, but for this they'll need to redesign it...
 
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