Because that's how wireless charging works. If it was without the pad problem, it's likely wasting huge amounts of electricity. There is no scenario where this is a good idea.
Also, Apple is pushing the iPad as a pro device.
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Should next iPads have USB-C instead of lightning?
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Because that's how wireless charging works. If it was without the pad problem, it's likely wasting huge amounts of electricity. There is no scenario where this is a good idea.
Also, Apple is pushing the iPad as a pro device.
Even with current wireless charging devices, you can still use the device. Near term wireless charging will mean you don't have to use induction. You can still use the device.
As for "Pro", we can have this argument until Judgement Day and still not agree what that means. Bottom line, a "pro" will use whatever tool is right for THEM to get the job done.
You can use the device while it's sitting flat and unable to be picked up? Also, joy, completely wireless charging where we can hasten the destruction of the environment and pay more to charge it to boot. Sign me up.
I think most people agree that they would like to see USB-C on all Apple devices, but I'm sure Apple make far too much money off the MFi program. 
EDIT: I mean they would like to see USB-C over Lightning - not USB-C over literally every other port in the world like the new Macbooks.
EDIT: I mean they would like to see USB-C over Lightning - not USB-C over literally every other port in the world like the new Macbooks.
I have this feeling that the next iPhone models will have USB-C. It seems like it would be hella easy for Apple to just sell a bunch of cables with USB-C on both sides after a few years of waiting for more people to buy the newer computers. It just needs to be done about all at once like Lightning was.
This all assumes there isn't some hidden advantage of Lightning. I don't know each port's specs, but I think Apple went away from HDMI because Thunderbolt was faster or could carry more data.
This all assumes there isn't some hidden advantage of Lightning. I don't know each port's specs, but I think Apple went away from HDMI because Thunderbolt was faster or could carry more data.
Would it be possible for Apple to do some hardware tinkering and do MFI on USB-C?
That, and it support Displayport, which it self supports HDMI in newer implementations.
I think most people agree that they would like to see USB-C on all Apple devices, but I'm sure Apple make far too much money off the MFi program.
EDIT: I mean they would like to see USB-C over Lightning - not USB-C over literally every other port in the world like the new Macbooks.
By "most" do you mean ~ 70%?
By "most" do you mean ~ 70%?
Exactly! Someone should really post a poll to verify this!
As someone pointed out above, polls of macrumors forum members are fairly meaningless because they don't represent typical consumers.
You'd get better response and credibility if you spelled lightning correctly.
My cable that came w/the 6s is doing just fine a year later. No reason to think in 2 years, it will be different.
But what does the cable quality have to do with the design of the connector itself?
I'm sure there are mini-USB and USB-C quality complainers out there as well.
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Wifi to transfer data?...no thanks.
I'll stick to cables.
You are clearly against USB-c in iPads, you have posted in other threads about this idea. Whether you are for or against, this poll indicates interest in USB-c. And despite the popular quote of Steve Jobs, Apple is well known to listen to customers and attempt to meet users' needs.
Sorry I just had a brain fade when I posted and couldn't find a way to edit the poll or title of thread.
Lightening, because it is apple and USB-C would be to easy...
I wa extremely annoyed when they showed me the USB-C connector the first time. Yes, it's small, yes it will fit both ways, but inside the male oval connector there is another male tab/connector with tiny gold-plated contacts. So fragile, so difficult. Lightning is a much better physical connector design, even if it would be more expensive to make.
And have you seen the small disasters that can happen with badly made USB-C cables? Way to much power over way to tiny cables, wrong/no resistors, twisted pairs that shouldn't be twisted. The crap that was/is for sale on Amazon and Alibaba doesn't cost that much. Just a new Google Pixel/Macbook 12".... https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/EBGMagC46fN
That's why I never used any $3 lightning cables, just Apple's or MFI ones. $1000 for a phone is a lot of money and $30 for a cable might be a lot, it's still 1/33 of a new phone.
But just take a look at the deceivingly simple design of the Smart Connectors on the iPad Pro's. Easy, can carry data (at least data from the keyboard) can be used to charge (Logi Base stand), works with magnets that are already there for the covers. I know that connectors can't have that big a surface when you want 40Gb/s+ datatransfer speeds. But come on, it's so much better designed when compared to the USB-A, B or C or the numerous other badly designed connectors out there.
Come to think of it, Apple has a history of designing beautiful connectors. Magsafe, Magsafe II, lightning, Smart connector, (I didn't care much for the 30-pin connector), FireWire,
I would love the whole world using the same power/data-connector for phones, tablets, laptops, monitors, everything. But just look at power outlets, how many different connectors are there? They have been around since what, T.T. Smith's in 1883? And even after 133 years there is still not a unified AC power outlet. Ok, one for 110V, another one for 230V.
I'm not holding my breath for a decent designed unified connecter any time soon, although USB-C could become a badly physical designed but at least unified connector, as it an hold a lot of different legacy connectors.
And have you seen the small disasters that can happen with badly made USB-C cables? Way to much power over way to tiny cables, wrong/no resistors, twisted pairs that shouldn't be twisted. The crap that was/is for sale on Amazon and Alibaba doesn't cost that much. Just a new Google Pixel/Macbook 12".... https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/EBGMagC46fN
That's why I never used any $3 lightning cables, just Apple's or MFI ones. $1000 for a phone is a lot of money and $30 for a cable might be a lot, it's still 1/33 of a new phone.
But just take a look at the deceivingly simple design of the Smart Connectors on the iPad Pro's. Easy, can carry data (at least data from the keyboard) can be used to charge (Logi Base stand), works with magnets that are already there for the covers. I know that connectors can't have that big a surface when you want 40Gb/s+ datatransfer speeds. But come on, it's so much better designed when compared to the USB-A, B or C or the numerous other badly designed connectors out there.
Come to think of it, Apple has a history of designing beautiful connectors. Magsafe, Magsafe II, lightning, Smart connector, (I didn't care much for the 30-pin connector), FireWire,
I would love the whole world using the same power/data-connector for phones, tablets, laptops, monitors, everything. But just look at power outlets, how many different connectors are there? They have been around since what, T.T. Smith's in 1883? And even after 133 years there is still not a unified AC power outlet. Ok, one for 110V, another one for 230V.
I'm not holding my breath for a decent designed unified connecter any time soon, although USB-C could become a badly physical designed but at least unified connector, as it an hold a lot of different legacy connectors.
I think it's quite likely the next iPad pros will have USB-C. It seems Apple have selected USB-C as its new computer side connector and lightning as it's accessory/peripheral connector (Magic Mouse 2, AppleTV Siri remote, Apple Pencil, third party game controllers for AppleTV, AirPods, etc...). It's just a question of which side the iPad sits on, as it's now advertised as a PC replacement, it could well use USB-C on the next model for out of box fast charging (no new cable and power supply required) and possibly 4K video output support.
But they're going to have to update the USB host controller in the iPad to supply more than a pitiful 100mA on the USB port so you don't HAVE to have the iPad connected to a power source to power USB devices.
One thing that suggests me to they won't change it is the Apple Pencil, they're going to have to release a USB-C version in order to plug it directly into the new USB-C iPads.
But they're going to have to update the USB host controller in the iPad to supply more than a pitiful 100mA on the USB port so you don't HAVE to have the iPad connected to a power source to power USB devices.
One thing that suggests me to they won't change it is the Apple Pencil, they're going to have to release a USB-C version in order to plug it directly into the new USB-C iPads.
So you are proposing to change the cable on iPhone that sells in millions of units to piss all the people in the world that use it that do not have access to any USB-C devices/ports just to make few people who bought the latest macbook pros happy? it is enough that all the new macbook pro users going to live in the dongle world, but the 60 millions of iPhones users should not be forced to use a dongle just to for instance charge an iPhone from a laptop that only have USB-C ports.
sorry, didnt realize the subject was the iPad,anyway, still the same theory applies, just in smaller quantities.
I hope it stays lightning adapter. I had an Lg G5 and it used USB-C and I can't tell you how hard it was to find a damned car charger for that thing. I looked all over Best Buy, Fry's, nobody had them. Finally found one a long ways from me at a best buy and it was ridiculously expensive. Ended up trading the LG G5 for a different phone, problem solved, although that wasn't the reason I traded it back in. USB-C was around for awhile at the time, that's why I found it so odd not to be able to find one locally.
At least I can find Lightning port adapters and cables, no problem. If it ain't broke don't fix it. lol
At least I can find Lightning port adapters and cables, no problem. If it ain't broke don't fix it. lol
Lightning is still superior in terms of safety. You can more easily damage the port connectors in the usb-c if straining occurs.
Damaged cable>>>>>>>>damaged device.
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Good point I hadn't realised ! I suspect it will defiantly stay around on the iPhone for a while then
Lightning is still superior in terms of safety. You can more easily damage the port connectors in the usb-c if straining occurs.
Damaged cable>>>>>>>>damaged phone.
Lightning is still superior in terms of safety. You can more easily damage the port connectors in the usb-c if straining occurs.
Damaged cable>>>>>>>>damaged phone.
This thread has nothing to do with the iPhone
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I just don't understand why they would stay with lightning when USB-c is being marketed as the io of the future
The iPad is not an island - what happens on the iPhone is important to what happens on the iPad (because it will most likely happen to the iPhone first).
As to why stick with Lightning? Well, Apple has also made it clear that there's a distinction between mobile (iOS) and desktop (macOS). Remove the headphone jack on the iPhone, but not on the new MacBook. Touch and Pencil for mobile, but not the MacBook (or iMac). USB-C for macOS and Lightning for iOS.
Our wish don't count Apple has there way, but If I have to guess in the further they will be no connector at all
Yes because every single person who has had an issue with a lightning charging cable wrote a review, there have only been 200 people who have had an issue
That amount of reviews is way above average for a product on Apples own site most have attracted less than ten, but i'm sure you knew that, i'm sure you checked before making an ill informed sarcastic comment didn't you?
Apple even admitted themselves recently that there is a huge counterfeit market for them on Amazon, why is that I wonder, could it be ....?
1. Apples first party charging cables very prone to fraying/loose connections as the reviews on their site suggest.
2. Apples lightning cables are hugely over priced.
3. If people are going to buy abysmal quality they would rather purchase it for minimal cost on Amazon rather than be ripped off paying five times the amount to Apple.