Should next iPads have USB-C instead of lightning?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by username:, Nov 14, 2016.

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Should the next iPad Pro have USB-C or lightening connector?

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  2. Lightening

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  1. username: macrumors 6502a

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    Can we do a poll? I really think it would be better if the iPads had USB-C for convenience and they would be easier to be compatible with the new macs as you could just carry one USB-C to USB-C cord to charge and sync everything. What do you think?
     
  2. masotime macrumors 68020

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    I think it would be great to have a connector that would actually lighten my iPad.
     
  3. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    Won't happen. USB c to lightening cables are available.
     
  4. temna macrumors 6502a

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    Lightning is iOS, Thunderbolt (USB C) is OSX.. That's just how it is.
     
  5. Wahlstrm macrumors 6502a

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    Apple will probably not change it any time soon, but hopefully they will change the cable in the box..
    There is no good reson to not switch out the chargers and cables in stuff that´s beeing sold right now.
     
  6. Beerstalker macrumors 6502

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    They should be able to plug into the new MacBook Pros out of the box ...
     
  8. username: thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Um no. What is the advantage of lightning? USB-C supports so many more standards and saves carrying an extra cable.

    Think about it. USB-c to USB-c for MacBook, iPad, and hopefully iPhone. There is no need for lightning anymore.

    lightning-vs-usb-c-01746.jpg

    There is no size advantage. Also apple could release a USB-c stick for files.
     
  9. Crazy Badger macrumors 65816

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    Given Apple have gone 'all in' with USB-C on the Mac range, they really should do the same on new iOS devices. That said, they could have done it with the iPhone 7 and they didn't, so I expect they won't next year either :(
     
  10. sracer macrumors 604

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    Considering how strictly Apple controls what can connect and work with the iPad I'd say that the type of connector is irrelevant.

    Thumbs up to @masotime (seems no one else picked up on that) ;)
     
  11. ActionableMango macrumors G3

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    I just bought a whole bunch of Lightning cables, so I'm actually quite certain that they will switch to USB-C. :rolleyes:
     
  12. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    No, Lightning is $$$ for Apple, USB-C is convenience for users.

    Why da *** you think a connector is OS dependent is beyond me.
     
  13. gnasher729 Suspended

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    The question is really totally pointless.

    You have a cable connecting for example a Mac, or another computer, or a charger port, on the one side, and an iPad or iPhone on the other side.

    One one side you have USB, say USB-A or it could be USB-C. On the other side, you have Lightning. "Replace Lightning with USB-C" doesn't make sense. You could have a cable with Lightning on one side, and USB-C on the other side. Just like now you have a cable with Lightning on one side, and USB-A on the other side.
     
  14. masotime macrumors 68020

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    Jokes aside, I personally think USB-C is a better approach.

    The reason is simple - if we use USB-C everywhere, then every USB-C to USB-C cable will work everywhere. Since you don't need to adapt from one port to another, male-female adapters also become unnecessary.

    Think about it - you just need to have one or two cables, and you can connect and power every device you own. You never have to mix and match cables or worry about whether you're connecting it in the right orientation.

    I don't know about you, but that sounds like utopia with me. The only thing more advanced would be safe, secure, reliable and yet powerful wireless communication / power transfer, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to be feasible for some time.
     
  15. M. Gustave macrumors 68000

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    I think you should contrast the number of Macs sold per year with the number of iPhones and iPads:

    Q4 2016
    Macs: 4.8 million
    iPhone + iPad: 57.3 million
     
  16. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    Apple control the lightning cable standard which generates huge revenue for them. They do not get the same kickback with USB C
     
  17. boast macrumors 65816

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    Would be great to not have separate lightning and USB-c dongles and just have one kind. SD card reader, USB-A and HDMI adapters that work on both.
     
  18. dumastudetto macrumors 68030

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    I'm hoping for a completely new impossibly tiny and incredibly proprietary connector for all 2017 iOS devices. It's time to say goodbye to lightning!
     
  19. username: thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    The original reasoning behind lightning was that there wasn't a better connector available at the time, so Apple had to develop lightning. I also think it was better than anything else even mini USB. But now USB-c is here, which Apple helped to develop, there is no reason to stick with lightning other than profit, and I like to believe Apple does things to improve the user experience more more so than simply for profit.

    I'm not talking about anything proprietary. USB-c is an indrustry standard.
     
  20. dumastudetto macrumors 68030

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    I know you are not. I am talking about what I want from Apple.
     
  21. Abazigal macrumors G3

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    Lightning was available 4 years ago when Apple wanted a smaller and reversible connector. USB C wasn't. For better and for worse, we now have a thriving ecosystem of Lightning accessories and it seems premature to give all this up for USB C which is still in its infancy.

    Personally, I am quite indifferent to the move. For example, if I were to travel overseas, I am not going to be bringing just 1 cable for all my Apple devices, even if they all share the same port. I am still going to being enough cables to be able to charge them all simultaneously overnight. 3 USB C cables, or 1 USB C and 2 Lightning cables, or some other combination of the three. There really isn't any benefit to me either way.
     
  22. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    ...Why would you ever want that? o_O
     
  23. Beerstalker macrumors 6502

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    Lightning is smaller and more robust than USB-C. I think that Apple will stick with it for their portable devices until they are ready to go completely wireless for charging and syncing. I could see them maybe keeping something like the smart connector around as a backup for cases where there are hardware/software issues that require a physical connection to get back up and running.

    USB-C is a huge upgrade from USB-A and Micro-B/Mini-B, but it is not as robust as lightning. Apple probably could have got everyone to adopt lightning as the new standard if they would have given away the rights for free, but they obviously didn't want to do that. USB-C is a good compromise for a similar connector that no single company has the rights for.

    It took years for all of the cell phone manufacturers to finally all use Micro-B, and it will probably still be a few years before they all switch to USB-C. Why would we want Apple to switch to USB-C now, when many other devices will still be using Micro-B, when Apple will probably get rid of the connector soon anyway?
     
  24. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    You realise that it's not just a connector right?
     
  25. bufffilm Suspended

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    Regardless of which side you are on...the iPad will continue to be Lightning.
     

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