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Showrunner for Upcoming 'Amazing Stories' Series Exits After Apple Requests Family Friendly Content
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Whoa, slow down there cowboy. Nobody's telling anyone how to make their films. Apple's telling the director what they'll pay for, and the commenters here on both sides are describing what they'll watch.
Good on Apple. There are enough "dark" shows these days. I can use a break from dark, dreary, dystopia. Just a show that is entertaining, and makes you think, without needing to be adult themed.
You know what would be nice?
Have an alternative language track, like Spanish, French, or German, except it would be:
"English that is Family Friendly"
While we're at it, have the scenes that aren't family friendly edited out in a movie too. Most don't really add to the story, like in "Titanic", the scene where Leo and Kate are in the car, make the movie smart enough to cut from them kissing to the next scene. The whole movie would be available, but get stuff that is PG-13+ just creatively skipped.
This way, one could watch "Pulp Fiction" with the kids, and it would be a fun 20 minutes.
Have an alternative language track, like Spanish, French, or German, except it would be:
"English that is Family Friendly"
While we're at it, have the scenes that aren't family friendly edited out in a movie too. Most don't really add to the story, like in "Titanic", the scene where Leo and Kate are in the car, make the movie smart enough to cut from them kissing to the next scene. The whole movie would be available, but get stuff that is PG-13+ just creatively skipped.
This way, one could watch "Pulp Fiction" with the kids, and it would be a fun 20 minutes.
You know what would be nice? If Apple wasn't doing this. Apple music is one thing because Apple has roots going back to the ipod and it integrates with iOS and helps sell hardware. But apple music won't be much of a line item and hardly profitable at all for them. This would be even worse and will never be profitable for Apple.
Can Apple video original content help Apple sell more hardware? Nope. I would partner up with netflix and others and offer the best apps. The best experience for using those video services. Perhaps offer a youtube tv like service at most. But this still isn't going to sell more hardware for them because it won't be better than the others.
Apple has a good thing with their 4k/hdr movie library. Focus on speakers for it. Apple tv could use a siri that is speaker activated. You know, sell more hardware which is your primary business and quit worrying about resurrecting amazing stories.
Can Apple video original content help Apple sell more hardware? Nope. I would partner up with netflix and others and offer the best apps. The best experience for using those video services. Perhaps offer a youtube tv like service at most. But this still isn't going to sell more hardware for them because it won't be better than the others.
Apple has a good thing with their 4k/hdr movie library. Focus on speakers for it. Apple tv could use a siri that is speaker activated. You know, sell more hardware which is your primary business and quit worrying about resurrecting amazing stories.
To me, it seems like he has integrity. look up his reasons for leaving each project.
Isn’t Stranger Things, one of the biggest hits for Netflix since they started produccing their own content, essentially a “family friendly” show?
Not sure why in order for tv to be good it has to be one or the other.
I LOVED Amazing Stories as a kid. As a parent, the prospect of more tv that my daughters can grow up with that is suitable for them and stillmgreat is a win win.
If I need more adult oriented tv I know where to go for it.
Not sure why in order for tv to be good it has to be one or the other.
I LOVED Amazing Stories as a kid. As a parent, the prospect of more tv that my daughters can grow up with that is suitable for them and stillmgreat is a win win.
If I need more adult oriented tv I know where to go for it.
So if Fuller wants to copy a currently running non-family-friendly hit show (how creative), why does he feel to need to use the name of a family friendly hit show from the 80s (how creative) to sell it to the audience? Doesn't he have enough confidence in his vision for it to be a new show? Or does he think the stupid audience won't notice either way?
Oh, BTW, what does Spielberg have to say to this? Does he want his new Amazing Stories to be similar to his 80s Amazing Stories, just updated for the 2010s, or does he want a Black Mirror clone? Could it be that (gasp) Spielberg ordered to go back to the original recipe, not Apple?
I'm not sure Indiana Jones would get a pass from the Apple censors.
Nor would many of the recent Disney offerings - Marvel / StarWars.
All depends on just how family friendly Apple intends to go. Hannah Montana?
For all of the more edgy TV that's out there, there are family friendly offerings in abundance. Apple already has two of them and one of those was censored for edgy language or content.
Whatever they release it'll be a mahoosive challenge to the creative team behind it.
Actually they used to. The old Apple, even though they seem to remove things to make Apple products look simple to use, an advanced user used to be able to configure and use Apple products just like the next computer. With iPhone they did away with that, and because of the network that seems ok to me. But with computers, AppleTV, HomePod, etc. it just means I'll no longer use Apple products. I am not a teenager, I am not too stupid to understand how things work, and I don't want to spend money on devices that just do 60% of what I need/want just so Apple can be in charge of my experience. I used to let Apple control my user experience, because they were good at it. They are no longer good at it.
So silly. You have no idea how edgy Apple's programming will be. None of us will, because the real programming hasn't started yet. And macrumors is making up the "family friendly" thing. The cited article only says Fuller wanted to make Black Mirror and Apple didn't. Given that Amazing Stories is an existing franchise with its own style and aesthetic, Apple presumably just wanted what was pitched to them and what they paid for - Amazing Stories.
Ever notice Fuller doesn't keep his jobs very long?
If they want nothing offensive, how do they explain allowing Gwenyth Paltrow and will.i.am (good musician, terrible inventor/entrepreneur) to “mentor” tech startups?
Occasionally, there are shows, such as "The Deuce", that are literally ABOUT sex, and cutting sex out of them is ridiculous. But there are a lot of shows that have gratuitous sex, or unnecessarily graphic sex, which limits the audience. Personally, I can take or leave most of the extraneous boobery on my favorite service, HBO. My wife is less likely to want to watch a show that is excessively explicit beyond the needs of the narrative. That decreases the value of those shows to me, as it becomes a solitary experience watching them, rather than a shared experience. My wife is fine with the explicit sex in The Deuce, BTW, because it isn't extraneous. I don't know what Apple's plan is; all we know about is "Amazing Stories", which has a history and an associated Spielberg brand. I don't see why Apple's choice to maintain the image of that show, rather than changing it radically per some artistic whim, is such a bad one.
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Why would Apple spend the money on it if that was the direction the runner wanted to go? Someone isn't telling the whole truth here. If Apple spelled out what they were expecting and the runner agreed and is now trying to change it up after the agreement then Apple is in the right here.
Overall, I hope Apple gives runners and series the leeway to not be family friendly, there's already one Disney out there.
Oh you mean like Disney? There will never be pure lock-in on content. Apple users will always subscribe to Netflix, HBO, Hulu, etc in addition to Apple's offerings. So while I would prefer Black Mirror over Amazing Stories, I think Apple is positioning themselves as the next Disney here which is a smart business move.
No, not really. The main cast are mostly children, but that doesn't make the show suitable for young children. The show depicts:
SPOILERS AHEAD
- Monsters ripping people to shreds one by one, pulling people to their deaths, and graphically feeding on the fresh corpses. These aren't clean, off-screen, "implied" deaths. These are straight up scenes with blood, gore, screaming, bone crunching, everything.
- There are underage kids drinking alcohol, swearing, and having sex.
- There is domestic violence.
- There's a criminal gang that robs banks and stores, threatens violence to a kid, gets in a police shootout, and starts a murderous revenge-killing spree.
- There is a child that kills many, many adults in a very graphic way.
- Kids are imprisoned in bleak conditions and treated like lab rats. The imprisoned kids are directed to spy and to kill.
I think I can have a wild stab in the dark and get pretty close to the mark.
What I have no idea about is the release date of Vital Signs. What happened to that?
Also the article states Fuller wanted a Black Mirror STYLE. That does not necessarily mean sex, violence and bad language.. Could just be a slightly darker edge. We will never know.
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Are you saying that the last Jedi was a great Star Wars movie?
I think it was a fun movie, but a TERRIBLE Star Wars movie. I’ve got tons of die hard fans in my surrounding, including myself, Star Wars is what made me enter the movie industry in the first place. And so many people are now like “I don’t care about Star Wars anymore, they destroyed it! Not watching new episodes anymore” and so on...
it does sound like that, but looks more like he’s just swinging a big enough hammer these days that he doesn’t need to bow down...