Like old arcade ROMs that allow you to play Pokemon on your smartphone, with Dropbox sync.
...Apple didn't allow it so it got kicked from the App Store.
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Sideloading Bill Would Allow 'Malware, Scams and Data-Exploitation to Proliferate,' Says Apple
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...Apple didn't allow it so it got kicked from the App Store.
The presence of altstore is irrelevant. What matters is the actual changes that would be made would be utterly miniscule.
Removal of a needless 7 day timer
Ability to use altstore on more than one device on the same apple account.
Why is everyone blowing those 2 tiny things up into some fake security nightmare that doesn‘t exist?
I think a huge % of folks arguing here don't have any idea how any of this already works.
No other explanation makes any sense to me.
So many of these "arguments" against side loading shouldn't even be typed out, as they are made on the basis of incorrect key data and assumptions to begin with.
And nothing about the process of installing altstore would need to change for them to comply with this bill.
As i keep saying, literally all they would need to do is remove the 7 day limit and allow you to use altstore on multiple devices.
You would concievably still need a computer and you would still need to give altstore your icloud credentials (which most users would immediately be turned off by)
I keep saying this, but i‘ll say it again. For those of you who want to stay in the walled garden, you will be free to do so.
I just remembered one more restriction, they impose a 10 app limit per account. That would of course have to go too, but that‘s also miniscule.
Your argument is slightly different from most here if that’s the angle you’re approaching. Apologies for not seeing the nuanced difference.
^this.
I can't understand the magnitude of how irresponsible it is how much knowledge is missing about the system and just firing out statements like a never-ending shotgun and making people believe the same stuff all over again. It's like going with the first result on Google which is an ad.
Still need a computer to deploy it to your phone? Because what’s still not clear is I never head iOS is capable of side loading to where I can just download something from safari and run it like I can on Android. So if this (as in you still need a computer in order to side load) is your stance, I’m on board.
I don’t agree we should allow downloading apps from a browser and running it. You know THAT type of side loading.
It‘s ok, Apple do a lot of work to keep this kind of thing in the dark. I don‘t blame anyone here for falling for the rhetoric that apple have cleverly constructed, but it‘s really not as big of a change as they want you to think it is.
It only requires changes to the already existing systems they have in place for this exact purpose.
This is how it works now, there is NO WAY to sideload on ios without either some exploit i have not yet known about, or a computer with altserver.
This is because altstore doesn‘t do any shady stuff, it is simply a third party way to self sign applications which has been a thing since xcode was a thing.
Altstore doesn‘t even serve you apps itself. If you want to install apps you have to find and download the ipa file from an external source.
No don’t get me wrong. I understand it - and I even have dabbled. But most people here aren’t saying what you’re saying. They’re wanting an android or traditional OS type approach. Install via your phone from the open internet.
The problem is that the "mob boss" (Apple) are going out of their way to push their narrative here.
For some reason that I can't figure out, people actually 100% believe Apple PR.
Then I’m on board. I’m not in favor of side loading like Android where I can go to some random websites, download the app, and run it.
However, I don’t think your line of thinking matches what is intended by Epic and this bill.
I guess you want your cars warranty to go away for changing from winter tires to summer tire or changes a lightbulb ?
Really?
What if they are code signed and checked for malware by Apple (like on macOS signed apps) and the vendor accepts Apple Pay for the subscription?
There's zero change in risk exposure there for you.
Agreed either these people didn’t make their argument clear, or not all are thinking the same thing.
i don‘t think this is really necessary for us to get an acceptably usable system, and I understand why people dont want to just have a “install from unknown sources“ button.
I‘m actually jailbroken and once you are you of course have the ability to install ipas from anywhere, but in order to do so I had to use AltStore, so that‘s the only reason i know about all this stuff.
Indeed. They are not asking you to install a different OS on your iPhone which Apple wouldn't allow anyways.
I can guarantee they’ll all scream that this approach was what they meant all along though.
Not true. Almost all (if not all) folks here who are for sideloading agree that the option should be fairly difficult to reach for casual/technically illiterate user.
People do not understand the difference between jailbreaking- breaking out of the sandbox and gaining root privileges, and installing apps outside the App Store, WHICH APPLE ALREADY ALLOWS (but make very annoying). If sideloading is such a security risk, then why does Apple let us do it all?
About as difficult as it is to "erase and reset your device" -- something even my most tech illiterate family members have never stumbled into doing by accident.
Because... nobody has yet suggested making a (not IOS) Android OS iPhone that allows side-loading.