Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I did and I don't. Now you guarantee me that alt-stores and alt-payments will not change my experience at all.
Apps come and go from the app store even without alternate app sources. Just pretend any app that might leave (which I predict will be basically none) just went out of business or got banned by Apple.
 
I did and I don't. Now you guarantee me that alt-stores and alt-payments will not change my experience at all.

Nobody can.

For example -

  1. Your experience of Apple apps may improve, as Apple will actually have to try and win users by making individual apps good rather than anti-competitively relying on forcing them on customers.
  2. You may find that the broader online market for all websites stops doing as much proactive censorship attacking minorities such as sex workers because they don't have to be afraid Apple will arbitrarily turf them out of the store for no reason.
  3. You are likely to find that apps can offer sensible upgrade pricing models rather than clumsy subscriptions now that they are not reliant on Apple's failure to execute these things.
 
Apps come and go from the app store even without alternate app sources. Just pretend any app that might leave (which I predict will be basically none) just went out of business or got banned by Apple.


How about you just buy an android? Same argument.
 
Is there any particular app that bothers you? Or you just like to think of most doomsday scenarios.

I don't find any of those scenarios as "doomsday", they are all quite probable, reasonable suggestions for what will follow Apple being forced to allow alt-stores and alt-payments.
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: M3gatron
I don't find any of those scenarios as "doomsday", they are all quite probable, reasonable suggestions for what will follow Apple being forced to allow alt-stores and alt-payments.

Might be. And there is post #833 with slightly different scenarios, which you also might consider possible.
 
Anyone who is pro-side loading is a crypto bag holder who wants ransomware attacks to happen on massive global scales.

They have run out of suckers to buy magic beans and the only way they can get more money into the system is crooked politicians, ransomware attacks and low quality humans like Paris Hilton.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: alexgrist
Anyone who is pro-side loading is a crypto bag holder who wants ransomware attacks to happen on massive global scales.

They have run out of suckers to buy magic beans and the only way they can get more money into the system is crooked politicians, ransomware attacks and low quality humans like Paris Hilton.

Side loading has literally nothing to do with crypto anything
 
Nobody can.

For example -

  1. Your experience of Apple apps may improve, as Apple will actually have to try and win users by making individual apps good rather than anti-competitively relying on forcing them on customers.
  2. You may find that the broader online market for all websites stops doing as much proactive censorship attacking minorities such as sex workers because they don't have to be afraid Apple will arbitrarily turf them out of the store for no reason.
  3. You are likely to find that apps can offer sensible upgrade pricing models rather than clumsy subscriptions now that they are not reliant on Apple's failure to execute these things.

1) My experience with Apple apps is fine, I never questioned that experience. My issue is with the degraded experience I am likely to have under fragmented stores. Exactly how is Apple forcing apps on users? I can use whatever app I want.

2) If this is your over-worded way of allowing pr0n apps on the Apple store I support that, it's just not on my radar, *******.com works on iOS devices just fine. Now that being said I would appreciate it if Apple did not play the part of parents, allow the pr0nz and weed apps. On this we agree, its just not super important to me.

3) LOL! Apple has nothing to do with the freemium model. I am sure they would be quite pleased if everyone charged for apps. We wouldn't be in this micro-transaction, data harvesting mess if the general public didn't want everything for free. This has nothing to do with Apple.
 
Last edited:
You need to go undercover and see what they want. I've been doing it for 5 years.

They want full access to your phone, your personal data, your finances. They sell you the idea of freedom but that is not their end goal.

Ok, you're going off about totally unrelated stuff
Let's move from your crypto and ransomware concerns

(I hate crypto FTR - would love it flat out banned)
 
It requires a computer actually. You gave the impression that it should require a Mac specifically.
You know clearly what I meant. Stop getting into technicalities. I default to Mac because that is all I use.
 
Because macOS is pointless compared to Windows for malware writers. That is the only advantage macOS has. They obviously won't share the same flaws because they are obviously different, but you can't argue that if macOS and Windows were reversed, macOS would still be as safe as it is.

iOS marketshare on the other hand is very large so iOS will get hit hard when this opens.
"iOS market share" is an interesting argument because Apple fanatics (and Apple themselves) use the argument when it suits them that they don't have the market share people think they have.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: huge_apple_fangirl
  • Wow
Reactions: boss.king
It's really not. I'm suggesting a change that improves my experience and doesn't affect yours. You're suggesting one that degrades my experience and doesn't affect yours. Very different.

You suggested that I should "write off" apps that choose to leave the Apple app store for an alt-store as banned or discontinued by Apple. In my book that degrades my experience.

I get it, those that want a different experience than Apple currently offers are fine with degrading the experience that most of us enjoy currently, just be upfront about it, don't act like this legislation is in everyone's best interest because it isn't.

The difference here is that the alt-store, alt-payment crowd have other options. Those that prefer the walled garden, single source market have no other option and if your crowd has its way we never will because it will be legislated into extinction.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.