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I see another 30% cut coming in the near future if developers want their apps to be compatible/enabled on the Mac OS platform.

It’s probably more likely that the developer goes the fantastical route. Make their app available on all Apple device platforms, while moving to a subscription-based model because that’s what allows for a sustainable business.
 
They could start by adding an agreement to the developer T&C that gives Apple the right to release the apps source code and elements as public domain if the app is abandoned.
Setting aside that this is utterly asinine, Apple doesn’t even receive apps’ source code. They cannot release source code that they do not have.

Edit: And if this was thrown into Apple Developer agreements, it’d lead to the collapse of the App Store, given that you are simply handing your source code to a potential competitor. That’s the kind of change that would get developers to walk off and move to the web. Fast.
 
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since when has Apple listened to message boards on MacRumors? it would take a butterfly switch catastrophe (or so I've been told) for Apple to change their minds about anything.

regardless, even if they did, I rather have a variety of operating systems to choose from. if I wanted the ultimate customization and do-whatever-i-want, I'd go for a PC. if i wanted the ultimate curated experience where a company has end to end control of the entire user flow, I'd go to Apple. why would I want Apple to turn into Microsoft when I can just go to Microsoft? what, because Apple makes marginally better hardware?

i want to experience what a company with "insane level of control" has to offer. and so far, it seems to be damn working well with AirPods, AirPlay, AirDrop, Apple Watch, etc...if it doesn't work, I'd go to Microsoft.

asking macOS to be more like Windows is what is insane.
It’s a known fact that Apple visits this site. MacRumors has posted photos of apples IP address coming here all the time
 
Why does Instagram or Hulu care where you consume their content, so long as you keep doing so? Especially with regard to Hulu or Netflix, your desktop Mac has a bigger screen and better graphics hardware, so it seems to me that somebody consuming content on a desktop Mac has a greater incentive to buy a more expensive plan, and is thus a more valuable customer than a phone-only customer.
 
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It’s a known fact that Apple visits this site. MacRumors has posted photos of apples IP address coming here all the time
Sure. Do they browse the forums and does any actually helpful feedback make it to the right people to actually handle it? Almost universally, no.
 
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So, what was the point of bringing the iOS apps to Mac if Apple doesn't allowing most of them?! Another marketing BS vs real implication. I guess it's matter of time the devs to bring their apps to Macs as well!?
Well it isn’t Apple not “allowing“ them, it is the developer that does not allow their own iOS/iPadOS software on macOS. Apple is encouraging all developers to officially support their software on all Apple platforms, but they also are making sure that they respect and enforce the developer community’s choices, because if they don’t the developers won’t be in Apple’s ecosystem very long.
 
You own your M1. That doesn't mean Apple doesn't have a right to control how you use the OS on the M1.

If you want a 'anything goes' software world, Apple isn't for you.
Well that sucks doesn't it. Gotta compromise on the user experience if you want to use your own hardware how you want. Wouldn't it be something if Apple had just.. ya know left this feature in?
 
Well it isn’t Apple not “allowing“ them, it is the developer that does not allow their own iOS/iPadOS software on macOS. Apple is encouraging all developers to officially support their software on all Apple platforms, but they also are making sure that they respect and enforce the developer community’s choices, because if they don’t the developers won’t be in Apple’s ecosystem very long.
Exactly. Just complain to the dev.. not to apple that just enforced the dev’s choice to opt out.

Especially that this feature is a default opt-in.
 
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Well it isn’t Apple not “allowing“ them, it is the developer that does not allow their own iOS/iPadOS software on macOS. Apple is encouraging all developers to officially support their software on all Apple platforms, but they also are making sure that they respect and enforce the developer community’s choices, because if they don’t the developers won’t be in Apple’s ecosystem very long.
I understand that now, Thank you for clarifying it. Wonder why devs won't want to bring their apps to MacOs then? Since that's the case.. As far as I know, Apple made the UI kit easier for devs to make one app for all Apple platforms.. so?! Still a bit confused on that
 
It’s a known fact that Apple visits this site. MacRumors has posted photos of apples IP address coming here all the time

Coming to the site to read rumors sure, not necessarily the message boards. Even if they did, that doesn't necessarily mean they're taking suggestions from this message board.
 
I understand that now, Thank you for clarifying it. Wonder why devs won't want to bring their apps to MacOs then? Since that's the case.. As far as I know, Apple made the UI kit easier for devs to make one app for all Apple platforms.. so?! Still a bit confused on that
Because officially making it an app for Macs means that average people will need to get their expected level of usage out of the app; and that you don't always get simply because the app sort of runs on a Mac.

In some cases it will just work, and in other cases it practically speaking will be quicker to start over coding a new app from scratch.

Meanwhile the company would have to deal with upset customers, train all their support staff to handle a whole new platform; and so on.
 
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As a developer, my company’s app is marked as “iOS only”. The reason? It is not tested on MacOS, so we can’t guarantee that it works properly, and it’s an app that we won’t allow you to run if we can’t guarantee it works. And we believe users will have a Mac and a phone, and they will have expectations that these work together, which we can’t meet.

if you want to have a MacOS version, you either wait or talk to my boss and offer him a six digit pound amount not starting with a one or two.
 
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So Apple has removed one of the main reasons to buy an M1, more apps, and continues to toss the ball back into Microsoft’s court when it comes to running Windows on the M1 which results in even fewer available apps. I was starting to regret my decision to go with an early 2020 Intel MacBook Air but am not any longer. I need a platform with more apps, not fewer.
 
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The question is, why would people not allow you to run iOS apps on a Mac? What advantage would that give a developer? Specifically apps that don't even have a desktop interface.
My app is untested MacOS. We don’t allow anyone to use untested software. We will soon turn off the ability to run on iOS 10 or 11 because it gets hard to test.
 
No. Of course not. I will push for legislation that regulates those developers into a career better suited for them. Starting with reducing software IP to 2 years max and holding developers personally accountable for the sale of software that doesn't function as expected.
We’ll take that into account in the pricing of the app. “Personally responsible” means my salary needs to increase to take that into account. And you pay for that.
 
So, what was the point of bringing the iOS apps to Mac if Apple doesn't allowing most of them?! Another marketing BS vs real implication. I guess it's matter of time the devs to bring their apps to Macs as well!?
I am puzzled by the outrage.

With Big Sur, Apple made iOS apps available on M1 Macs by default via the Mac App Store, though developers had the option of later disabling that option.

If developers wanted users to have access to said app, they would have kept that option in the first place, or worked on a Mac version of said app.

In other words, the people affected by this change are those who would have been using said apps in a manner not intended by their developers, and Apple is simply closing a loophole by preventing users from side loading those very same apps.

Normal users are not going to be impacted in any way.

What's the issue again?
 
Setting aside that this is utterly asinine, Apple doesn’t even receive apps’ source code. They cannot release source code that they do not have.

Edit: And if this was thrown into Apple Developer agreements, it’d lead to the collapse of the App Store, given that you are simply handing your source code to a potential competitor. That’s the kind of change that would get developers to walk off and move to the web. Fast.
Let’s think that through. Jason, who you replied to, seems to have every right to demand every penny back that he ever paid for his education. If he studied at a university, each of the professors owes him thousands. Plus all the money he’ll get from his school teachers.
 
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So if I download a copy on my iPhone and iPad it’s against TOS? That’s duplicates . All I’m doing is using the iOS app that I purchased and downloaded legally from the App Store . Of course it’s against tos now because they opted out my point is they didn’t need to be given the option.
You are not allowed to copy iOS apps in a way that is not described in Apple’s documentation or app developers’ help section.

I am not aware of any side-loading support documentation made available by Apple.

Using or duplicating software in a way not intended by the developer or the distributor is software piracy.
 
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