Yes, I saw that. My question was how will Apple enforce this requirement, if someone tries to do otherwise.
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When they review your app, they can visually see it. I’m not sure what you’re asking anymore. The QA approval process includes runbooks and test flights for these things
This needs to be said over and over and over until the media and then the public understand it. None of other major tech players are doing anything like this and as some of us may have noticed, it’s because Apple is not primarily an advertising company.
Using google photos does.
If your currently using google photos and want to leave your going have to export your photos individually.
Using gmail collects all your purchases into a separate folder that you can’t edit or delete. Just more examples of google data mining their users.
Android and google aren’t made for users that value thier privacy.
Pretty sure they said you can use sign in with apple on android as well. Can’t see how an app developer would allow you to make an account using your apple sign in and then never let you log back in unless you’re still using an apple device.
I can’t wait for Black Mirror to have a dystopian episode about this.
The same way when I quit Facebook. I had to start over with my accounts that used Facebook login.
Spotify account with Facebook login? You need to create a new Spotify account, which means you lose all of your customizations and preferences. It was a pain but in the end, I'm no longer a part of Facebook!
My guess is that, during app review, it'll check to see if it's using a third-party SSO. If it does, then it'll check if Apple's SSO is implemented.
That email address thing is genius.
For a long time I've used one off "plus addresses" (like: johnsmith+amazon@gmail.com or johnsmith+target@icloud.com) to ward off abuse, but it can really get irritating to manage, and not every web form understands the plus symbol. Apple's solution is WAY more elegant.
For a long time I've used one off "plus addresses" (like: johnsmith+amazon@gmail.com or johnsmith+target@icloud.com) to ward off abuse, but it can really get irritating to manage, and not every web form understands the plus symbol. Apple's solution is WAY more elegant.
so does Apple sign in (with respect to iPhones). you keep your Apple account if you sell all of your Apple devices.
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i'm answering the question rhetorically. you untangle away from Apple the same way you untangle away from Gmail.
you don't. even if you sell your iphone, you'd probably setup two step verification on your android device and Apple will send you an SMS to sign in.
This is why developers need a competing App Store on iOS. Apple is forcing it’s own solution arbitrarily with no alternative. If Apple had competition, this rule would cause many apps to leave for the other app stores (along with the many other arbitrary Apple rules) and Apple would be forced to be more developer friendly
What? It's making it mandatory if there are already other alternatives given as a choice (log in with Facebook, log in with Google).
Yes, that is still forcing. If I am a developer who only wants to let users authenticate with Facebook, Apple is telling me I cannot. And I cannot distribute an app without Apple's approval.
Considering Apple just today found out the DOJ was authorized to investigate Apple, the timing is impeccable.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/3/1...ity-facebook-google-amazon-ftc-investigations
Two-factor is a different animal than OnePassword. OnePassword exists to support single-password sign-ins. Yes, it keeps those passwords securely hidden, but it's still a single password.
Two-factor exists to reduce the odds that a person who tricks you out of your password or gets your password during a security breach of a bank, website, etc. will be able to access/take over an account. In addition to the password, they must have a second "key" - typically access to your phone (SMS message) or email account. A hacker halfway around the world won't have that (or shouldn't - that's why each password should be unique).
Yes, two locks on the door is more bother than one, and a lot of people would prefer to avoid two-factor, whether on their Apple devices, when signing into their bank web site, resetting their Google password... which is why all these different companies are so annoying about getting us to start using it. ;-)
It ought to be, and almost definitely is. The trick is you need to make that change before you jump ship, everywhere that you use it.
It isn't a big trick, as far as I'm concerned, but it's amazing how many people don't consider the consequences before doing something. "Before I change it, do I have any accounts that depend on this email address/phone number?" Simple question, amazing how many people don't ask it of themselves. Other people make up passwords and passcodes without making a record of them - they're focused on the destination (I wanna start using my new computing device!) and don't pause a second to think (or write).
In the end, who is responsible for the messes they find themselves in? It's always the service provider, right?
I'd like to see how it works when you're not using your iPhone or whatever. Say I sign up for Strava with my iPhone with the fake email and no personal information, and I want to login on a desktop to check something, how do I login using the Apple method on a Windows machine running Chrome?
This one wasn’t for the app developers it was for the consumers and it was with transparency.
The wrong way to go forcing people to use something.
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Its like third line forcing in financial circles.
Not sure why you are defending Apple forcing developers to add this.
Making it mandatory for third party sign-in is genius.
As an apple user couldn’t be happier.
As an apple user couldn’t be happier.
And this is precisely why the iOS App Store should not be opened up. Make all developers have to go through the App Store any play by Apple’s rules if they want to access us customers.
We users benefit because honestly, how many developers would implement this if they didn’t have to? Some are probably happy to get us to use Facebook login so they can scrape our data.
If it sucks for the developers, it means they were likely doing something wrong in the first place. As a consumer, I can’t think of a reason not to use said feature every chance I get.
We users benefit because honestly, how many developers would implement this if they didn’t have to? Some are probably happy to get us to use Facebook login so they can scrape our data.
If it sucks for the developers, it means they were likely doing something wrong in the first place. As a consumer, I can’t think of a reason not to use said feature every chance I get.