Largest 1080P movie I downloaded was 28 gigabytes. smallest was 7 gigabytes from torrent sites. For most computer screens, 720P is just fine but I have a 30" monitor so 1080P has to stretch to 200% to fit it.
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Largest 1080P movie I downloaded was 28 gigabytes. smallest was 7 gigabytes from torrent sites. For most computer screens, 720P is just fine but I have a 30" monitor so 1080P has to stretch to 200% to fit it.
Any HD movie you download from the internet (torrent sites) is compressed down from the original source. And like I said, you are loosing sound quality which is a big part of HD experience.
Compact discs (that's CDs, DVDs, BD, etc) are all digital.
No, I can't wait half an hour. By then it'll be either too late or I won't be in the mood for a movie anymore.
who cares if there all digital....where talking about Digital downloads.
you have to rent the movie or buy it.
you have to drive home to watch it.
that takes time.....ruins your mood also ?
i think ill stick to my digital copy's.
these arguments are terrible.
what good does 7.1 HD-DTS make on my 2 1/2 macbook pro speakers?
if you cant wait an hour to watch a movie then plan earlier. if you want to watch a movie now you have to plan on it, you either have to plan on going to the store to buy it, or you have to stop by the video store and plan on renting it. both activities took planning.
so if you want to watch a movie, plan on it start the download an hour before you want to watch it and it is there. if that is too much trouble then i dont know what to do to help you.
So you are saying that 40% of US population (around 120 million people) who does not have broadband access can start downloading movies week before they actually see it?
So you are saying that 40% of US population (around 120 million people) who does not have broadband access can start downloading movies week before they actually see it?
no, what we are saying is that by the time optical media is gone, that those people will have broadband access at 50-100Mbps.
why is it so hard for you to accept that not everyone wants or cares about BD.
and just because you are so passionate about it does not mean that Apple is going to include it.
they dont care what you think. they dont care what i think. they care about making money. and to make money on their digital media empire, they have to try to pioneer the market in a direction away from physical media.
no one is saying that they are going to drop dvd players next week. but they are going to do eventually. and if the plan is to drop the drive, why introduce awhole new format 1-2 years before you plan on dropping?
apple is building a whole new server farm in one of the carolina's. what do you think that is for? mobile me is not doing that great.
If you look at the first post, no one is arguing that digital download is the future. I was saying that we will most likely get Blu-Ray as stepping stone until the infrastructure (internal and external) to support all digital distribution model is in place. And this will not happen in the next 1 to 2 years as you say. It will take at least 10 years for us to get to that point. Less than 10% of population is early adapter, and your logic is forgetting 90% of population who doesn't know/care about technology. Not to mention to have the 90% penetration of broadband in USA will take close to decade by it self. Future is digital? Absolutely. Will it take a long time? Absolutely. Should we have Blu-Ray until then? IMO, Absolutely.
see, you are talking about the industry as a whole. I am talking about Apple only. and i think apple will begin to dropping optical drives within the next 1-2 years. and because of that why would they spend all the work and money to support a format in a technology they plan on abandoning.
I am not talking about the rest of the world. that is where this conversation is getting blurred.
what apple does and what the industry does is 2 very different things on 2 very different time frames.
tell me, other than backing up files and things on Large multi GB discs, what other benefits would blu-ray bring to a computer.
do you really want to watch a movie with such clarity and precise picture quality on a 15" or 20" screen? well you probably would, but how many regular consumers would want that? and as i said above, what good is 7.1 sound if it is on my little 2 1/2 laptop speakers?
see for me, and many others, the backing up argument is lame because i have a 2TB NAS that can be accessed over the internet from any computer in the world. so as far that goes i am covered. and for the reasons i stated above, i am not real interested in watching a BD movie on my 15" screen.
sooo, what other benefits would it bring?
Considering that the isps such as Verizon, Comcast define broadband as something like 768kb down, we're a long long way from getting widely available high speed broadband in the u.s. Right now they're still fighting with the gov't about wanting to define broadband as 768kb down. People that do have higher speeds find themselves throttled because the infrastructure can't keep up. Maybe in 5 years we will see wider broadband, but not within the next 2 years. Lots of places are still limited to dialup.
Your petty argument for an all digital age is not based on reality thus not even worth discussing your point of view.
you do that as main stream consumers dictate the physical media is here to say regardless of what random people say on forums. I understand there is no changing your mind, but don't chastise people for not agreeing with your point of view. Digital media is a bear trap to me because you can possibly be locked out of your media. try sharing or playing your "HD" content you paid for and took the time to download on another machine other than apple TV etc. i pick up the box, with media and can take it anywhere i want, plus i have the digital copy if needed.
Dude. come on. Does it even need to be said that you can plug in your computer to external speakers and screens? Yeah, you could buy a Blu Ray player, but if I already have my computer (and no PS3 for me, nor XBOX), why not combine the two? Us college students want convergence.
Now I don't even care if they actually do Blu Ray at Apple or not. Let 'em do whatever they want. But consumers will demand it, whether they deliver it or not. I bet they will do Blu Ray one day, once consumer demand is high enough. But it seems like typical Apple, no choice, the benevolent dictator shall choose what's best for you. Well, I guess it makes sense since many consumers are just plain dumb, but some of us are actually smart enough to know a thing or two about our gadgets
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Dude. come on. Does it even need to be said that you can plug in your computer to external speakers and screens? Yeah, you could buy a Blu Ray player, but if I already have my computer (and no PS3 for me, nor XBOX), why not combine the two? Us college students want convergence.
Now I don't even care if they actually do Blu Ray at Apple or not. Let 'em do whatever they want. But consumers will demand it, whether they deliver it or not. I bet they will do Blu Ray one day, once consumer demand is high enough. But it seems like typical Apple, no choice, the benevolent dictator shall choose what's best for you. Well, I guess it makes sense since many consumers are just plain dumb, but some of us are actually smart enough to know a thing or two about our gadgets
If i am at a place where i can plug in my computer into a large screen and a system large enough to appreciate 7.1, I am going to just buy a BD player.
I bought one last week from best buy for $99. to me, hooking up my laptop to a external screen, external speakers, making sure it is pluged into power,
all that is just a hassle and a player is best suited for that.
i still do not see any NEED for BD in a computer.
and you reinforced my exact point. apple dont care what we want and will do want they want.
Why would they have blueray? Why not good old floppy instead? If you need to watch videos, get a desktop or home theatre. Come on.
Apple just put an SD slot in their 15 inch for crying out loud! Blu Ray is definitely coming. You can quote me on that!
Why ? Just because Apple is the only computer maker on the planet not to offer BD ?
I want my MBP to play blu ray and thats why I most likely will buy an external drive so I can watch my older bluray movies. But soon there will be no need since all new blurays come with a digital copy so I can store that on my computer and watch bluray on my HDTV.
I would say backuping on somthing that you can destroy with a scratch is pretty dumb. I backup everything important on my fileserver and my 640 Gb external drive.
Also, for movies? Who the hell uses optical media for that? If it cannot be legally "streamed" over the net, it is not worth getting legally. Finally companies are starting to offer movie rentals and streaming over the internet. And I put some of the glory on Spotify for leading the way with music!
You got to realise that blu ray drive alone will not allow you to watch blu rays on your TV. You have to combine MDP and sound somehow and the people that know or want to do this are a fraction of the fraction of total buyers of blu ray equiped laptops. Blu ray only makes sense on big "entertainment" laptops with HDMI output.
Open up the bottom of your MBP and realise how much inner space is occupied by the drive. A second HDD,SSD slot, or 2 side by side, more battery, more heatpiping and a bigger fan for cooling are just examples of what could be done in there. Netbooks don't have opticals and they were what kept the computer market going in such a tough financial year...
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Open up the bottom of your MBP and realise how much inner space is occupied by the drive. A second HDD,SSD slot, or 2 side by side, more battery, more heatpiping and a bigger fan for cooling are just examples of what could be done in there. Netbooks don't have opticals and they were what kept the computer market going in such a tough financial year...
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I 100% agree with that. If they just did away with the optical drive and added a second HDD or more battery, I'd be one happy camper. Even on my desktop, I rarely use my optical drive, except to format my OS every once in a while, so having one on the mbp is just a waste of space for me. However, they should give consumers a CHOICE. Do you want an optical drive or do you want another HDD?
Why ? Just because Apple is the only computer maker on the planet not to offer BD ?
Oh, so should I be telling my kid to start smoking because all his friends do?
woa, it's SO inconvenient to plug in 3 things, *which I do already*. I guess you completely gloss over my question, if my laptop can have Blu Ray, wouldn't it be better than having a BD player? It's one less thing to buy. They're definitely not going to abandon optical drives soon, so why not have the latest tech?
And I don't care if I reinforced your point. My point is that it will ultimately be detrimental if they don't ever adopt Blu Ray. Imagine if they kept using CD drives only when DVD came out. They would look like complete fools. And the comparisons to floppy disks are ludicrous. Floppies were already dead. CDs, hard drives, USB drives, they had already killed floppies dead. But Blu Ray probably still has 10 years left. Consider this: my town was one of the first towns in one of the first states for Verizon to roll out Fios. But my neighborhood doesn't have fiber, and they only started building it out a few weeks ago. It'll be another month before you can get Fios in my neighborhood. So that's more than 3 years to roll out fiber to one of the first towns in one of the first states that will get fiber. It will be another 10-20 years before most Americans have access to fiber optics. Most will still buy optical disks during that time.
