Sim free iPhone X at Launch?

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  1. TrumpWon! macrumors member

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    I need to buy an iPhone x compatible with cdma to work with my carrier. Will apple release the Sim free version right away? Have they ever done that? I would preorder a Verizon iPhone but I don't have carrier info as I'm not a customer. Could I use someone else's carrier info or would that require a new plan to be purchased by them? Going to the Apple Store is not an option as I don't live near one. Thanks.
     
  2. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    No. The SIM free version is usually 3 - 4 weeks after initial launch.

    You would need to sign up with Verizon.
     
  3. BeeGood, Sep 11, 2017
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    Apple might not release any variants of the X edition right away, let alone the SIM free version.

    I’m in the same boat BTW. Only thing you can hope for is the T-Mobile version gets the newest Intel modem (which will work on CDMA), but that’s not likely either. We’re probably going to wait a little while.

    EDIT: If you knew someone with a Verizon account who would let you use their info, that would work.
     
  4. TrumpWon! thread starter macrumors member

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    If I would use their info would they be required to select a monthly plan with the phone? On apples site it says their current phone will continue to work until they setup the new phone. So if I pay in full and get the phone and don't use the sim that ships with it but use my own sim on my current carrier you think it will be ok? With no problems on the persons axxount who's account info I use. ?
     
  5. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    You’re good as long as you put your SIM in before you activate the phone. All of their stuff will continue to operate as normal.

    The only thing that could change on their end is the IMEI number of your new phone *might* be associated with their line/account. If that happens and its an issue for you or them, then it’s easy to remedy with a call/visit to Verizon.
     
  6. Vermifuge macrumors 68000

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    The iPhone 8 had / has a Sim Free option for pre order right now. But the X isn't showing such an option.
     
  7. invenoveritas macrumors newbie

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    Yea I saw that too. I called Apple and a rep said unofficially they thought there was a chance that a sim-free option could appear before the pre-orders start. In the worst case, you can open a Verizon account with a pre-pay line or something, avoid having to do a credit check and setting up a monthly service. At least that's what I'm going to try.
     
  8. Juan007 macrumors 6502a

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    Real answer is nobody knows, just wait. iPhone 8 had SIM-free at launch for the first time in years, maybe X will have the same.
     
  9. Givmeabrek macrumors 68040

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    Apple probably has to meet the demand of the carriers before releasing any sim free models. Could be a long wait for iPhone X.
     
  10. protoxx macrumors 6502a

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    Post paid account only.
     
  11. Dkelly811 macrumors newbie

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    If I do this will this use my friends Verizon upgrade? That’s important to know for me, or does it just use their info the verify they have an account?
     
  12. Givmeabrek macrumors 68040

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    It will upgrade your friends phone. Whatever that involves depending on the account.
     
  13. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    Like @Givmeabrek said, it depends. If they have an old contract plan (not sure if people still have these), then yes.

    If they don’t, you can pay full price and your friend’s line will still be “upgradable” afterwards.
     
  14. newyorksole macrumors 68040

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    This is how it works: You using your friend's account and doing an "upgrade" using their phone number has no negative impact on them. You would be paying for the phone in FULL. You're not doing financing and Verizon doesn't do 2 year contracts anymore.

    Like someone else said, when you receive the phone just put your SIM card in before you turn it on. There are literally no consequences to your friend by doing this. Your friend will continue using their phone like normal and their rate plan will remain the same. When you purchase a Verizon phone SIM-Free / Unlocked you're just paying it in full and are done with it.

    It's the best way to get iPhone X because something tells me you won't be able to order online without entering carrier info for a while. Maybe Apple will allow you to reserve a Verizon model for in-store pickup and you pay in-store instead of online and won't have to enter any credentials.

    We'll see.
     
  15. homer79 macrumors newbie

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    Can I ask which is a better option for use in Asia? I am planning to buy an Iphone X and I can do it either through T-Mobile and Verizon. I understand the Verizon model is a CDMA model but its should also work as an LTE phone in Asia. Would I still be able to download or upload with full network speed on such a CDMA model?

    Both the T-Mobile and Verizon Models seems to be sold unlocked with their respective sim cards when I select the full payment option. Does that mean I can order a T-Mobile version, it would stay unlocked as long as I use a foreign sim card? Would it become locked once I pop in a T-Mobile sim card (I also have an existing tmobile account which i use when I am in the US)? Many thanks for any replies!
     
  16. Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502a

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    See this is how Apple stymies scalpers. Since they do not allow purchases that are not linked to a carrier account for the first few weeks or so, the average person won’t try to scalp. In order to scalp you’d have to buy the phone on an active carrier account, then open the phone and remove the SIM card, then sell it. So I see no way that there can be many scalpers or any that aren’t open box.
     
  17. homer79 macrumors newbie

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    Will using my friends account information prevent him from buying another iPhone x for himself?
     
  18. newyorksole macrumors 68040

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    That’s the other thing. Sometimes Apple does the whole “only 2 per household” thing. You should be fine with 2.
     
  19. CSBGameash macrumors newbie

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    idk about you guys in US but here in NZ the phones we get is carrier free. So we get sim free phone which is good. But I don't understand that why you guys need to choose a carrier when buying a phone?:/
     
  20. Zigourney, Oct 18, 2017
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    I know it seems weird in the USA. In the UK you can buy any phone sim free without a carrier contract, including iphones from the apple store SIM Free unlocked outright and put your existing SIM card in it. Or separately you can buy the phone from a carrier with a contract tariff or just buy a sim only contract. I guess different countries do it differently for economic reasons.
     
  21. homer79 macrumors newbie

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    thanks!
     
  22. netpeer macrumors newbie

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    The question is if I use a friend's VZ account info where will the phone be shipped to, my address or friend's address? This is important for tax purposes...
    Anyone knows for sure?
    Thanks!
     
  23. Givmeabrek macrumors 68040

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    To avoid issues make sure the Verizon account address, credit card billing address, and shipping address agree. Mix them up and you are in for a rocky ride....
    --- Post Merged, Oct 25, 2017 ---
    We don't understand either. I'm sure it's all about money and the relationship Apple has with the carrier. To add to the confusion it is always changing. The iPhone 8 Sim free model was available for preorder, but the X is not. It's not consistent. Hopefully some day it will be straightened out...
     
  24. netpeer macrumors newbie

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    Another thing just did a drill (iphone 8) using my friends info ahead of launch day and it says:
    Contract:(iPhone 8 Plus 64GB Space Gray, Verizon Wireless)
    No Commitment
    One-time upgrade fee:(iPhone 8 Plus 64GB Space Gray, Verizon Wireless) $30.00
    Line Access:(iPhone 8 Plus 64GB Space Gray, Verizon Wireless)

    Smartphone

    $20.00/month

    Fees and rate plan charges will appear on your next Verizon bill.



    Will the $30 fee be charged if i put in my old sim? Last thing i want is pay that stupid fee....
     
  25. gurase macrumors 6502

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    Seriously, I wish Apple would only sell the sim free model to alleviate all this confusion about which model works on which carrier, who is allowed to preorder which model, etc. Scalpers find a way no matter what.

    And Apple isn’t the only company that does it. My husband has had to return 2 Google Pixels he bought on Swappa because each seller listed it as the Google Unlocked version when it was actually the Verizon version. Only the Google Unlocked version can be bootloader unlocked, but Google and Verizon had to make it confusing with separate models.
     

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