I don't think he was just being cute either...I think he said that because it's actually in beta.
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I don't think he was just being cute either...I think he said that because it's actually in beta.
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I think Apple would be smart to put Siri in the app store for like $10-20. Unless their servers would buckle or something. But at this point there's money waiting to be grabbed from 4 and 3GS owners who aren't upgrading to the 4S. They might as well grab it before the jailbreak community puts out a DIY hack. I say grab some money instead of playing the cat and mouse game.
I think Apple would be smart to put Siri in the app store for like $10-20. Unless their servers would buckle or something. But at this point there's money waiting to be grabbed from 4 and 3GS owners who aren't upgrading to the 4S. They might as well grab it before the jailbreak community puts out a DIY hack. I say grab some money instead of playing the cat and mouse game.
Agree completely - because Apple has so few variations on the phone and a tightly controlled system, Apple usually offers an upgrade from verson N-2 and N-1 to the current version.
But because Android and WinMo (pre WP7) are more open, there are many more permutations.
In my experience with Samsung WinMo (pre WP7) phones, though, I've had a couple of Vm.n -> Vm.(n+1) upgrades and a Vm.n -> V(m+1).0 upgrade.
Yes, Apple raises the bar in upgrades (although some regret the IOS 4 upgrade on older hardware), but it's not right to state that other smartphone vendors haven't supported major upgrades.
iPhone (Original) :
--June 29, 2007
--February 2, 2010
--iOS 1.0 to iOS 3.1.3
iPhone 3G:
--June 9, 2008
--November 22, 2010
--iOS 2.0 to iOS 4.3
iOS 4.0: June 21, 2010 - First major release not available for original iPhone
iOS 5.0: October 12, 2011 - First major release not available for iPhone 3G
(June 21, 2010 - June 29, 2007)/365 = ???
(October 12, 2011 - November 22, 2010)/365 = ???
That means that the original iPhone was supported for 2.9808 year or realistically 3 years. The iPhone 3G was supported for 3.175 years.
You know, I agree with people that this is a move by Apple to convince people to buy the 4S.
You know what? I'm fine with that. They spend money and resources developing it. They have to upkeep the servers and have the servers there for it to be used. Point of it is, it was not *free* for them to make or to maintain (it's still costing them money).
So yes, they are going to try to use it to encourage people to upgrade and they aren't just going to offer it for free so that there is no motivation to upgrade. I mean that is their motivation to spend money to maintain and develop Siri.
Anyways, while it would be neat to have Siri on the phone just for amusement value, the one thing I really wish my phone had was the voice transcription right in the keyboard.
You know what? I'm fine with that. They spend money and resources developing it. They have to upkeep the servers and have the servers there for it to be used. Point of it is, it was not *free* for them to make or to maintain (it's still costing them money).
So yes, they are going to try to use it to encourage people to upgrade and they aren't just going to offer it for free so that there is no motivation to upgrade. I mean that is their motivation to spend money to maintain and develop Siri.
Anyways, while it would be neat to have Siri on the phone just for amusement value, the one thing I really wish my phone had was the voice transcription right in the keyboard.
So Appl includes it with the 4s. Let owners of the 4 and ipod touch have to buy it on the app store for $50.
Problem solved. It's like getting the latest version of iLife on the next revision of the iMac.
I don't see why Apple wouldn't take the opportunity to make some money and just call Siri "bundled software" with the new 4s. It could be a selling point, then. (comes with siri, a $50 value).
People who buy the cheap 4 or free 3gs could buy Siri if they wanted it.
Problem solved. It's like getting the latest version of iLife on the next revision of the iMac.
I don't see why Apple wouldn't take the opportunity to make some money and just call Siri "bundled software" with the new 4s. It could be a selling point, then. (comes with siri, a $50 value).
People who buy the cheap 4 or free 3gs could buy Siri if they wanted it.
From Steve Troughton-Smith's Twitter account:
If he really is going to put ought the details of how to do it then expect this to be out in a few months since the 4S JB is in the early stages.
If he really is going to put ought the details of how to do it then expect this to be out in a few months since the 4S JB is in the early stages.
I can't wait for the name "Steve" to disappear from MacRumours. The sooner that people start to ask "Steve who?" the better for Apple.
Or at least for "Steve" to become as rare as the occasional funny "PowerBook G5" joke. (Note the nuance - only some of the "PowerBook G5" jokes are actually funny.)
We're in the post-Jobs era. (Not the "post-PC" or "post-Flash" or "post Blu-Ray" eras - they're still here and Jobs isn't.)
Even Jobs himself said that he didn't want Apple people to ask "what would Steve do".
Although, "I don't think that Steve would approve" will be a fun line for 5 to 10 years!
There's nothing to understand in the editorial. It's a mess of sentences that when views as a whole or as a paragraph make no sense; it conveys nothing.
Feature fragmentation isn't the problem. It's API fragmentation, security fragmentation. Who cares if the iPhone 3G is slow at running a new operating system? Have you run Windows 7 on a Pentium 4??? Get back to me when Microsoft optimizes it for the P4...
It's about keeping the operating system on the same security level and same API level. So that 1) users' data is stolen by security threats and 2) so that developers don't have to make multiple versions of the same app to run the platform.
This.
The upgrade from the 4 to the 4S isn't big enough to warrant and plenty of people are locked in to contracts anyway. Siri isn't a good enough reason to upgrade either IMHO, but I'd buy it for £30 or so on the app store just to play around with on my iPhone 4.
I agree that if Apple don't offer it as an extra for at least iPhone 4 customers, they shouldn't be surprised if people Jailbreak and take matters into their own hands. It's got to be one of the best reasons for jailbreaking to come along for a while now.
All right, it's able to respond to simple commands but what about "What's the weather like in Paris"... stuff that actually requires some thinking?
Two things.
1. I never did understand why there was a hardware horsepower requirement for an app that essentially runs in the cloud on Apple's servers.
2. Why does it need to run in the cloud anyway? Wouldn't it be way faster to have Siri fully running on the phone and have it update it's brains over the air on on sync every day or so?
1. I never did understand why there was a hardware horsepower requirement for an app that essentially runs in the cloud on Apple's servers.
2. Why does it need to run in the cloud anyway? Wouldn't it be way faster to have Siri fully running on the phone and have it update it's brains over the air on on sync every day or so?
That's all server side computation.
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Even the A5 would struggle to quickly put out a response if it even could. The shear amount of questions you can ask a server farm is mind boggling. It needs to be connected to the net to make this technology worthwhile.
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Too many Apple apologists. This was a douche move on Apple's part, no ifs ands or buts. Whats wrong with acknowledging that Apple is a corporation out to get as much money out of you it can? Why make excuses for them since they only care about your pocketbook?
Once upon a time...
I like that video... especially when the guy said "Tell me a story". Siri replied with "Once upon a time... no, it's too silly." I decided to ask her the same question and she said the following:
I was blown away!!!
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I like that video... especially when the guy said "Tell me a story". Siri replied with "Once upon a time... no, it's too silly." I decided to ask her the same question and she said the following:
"Once upon a time, in a virtual galaxy far far away, there was a young, quite intelligent agent by the name of Siri.
One beautiful day, when the air was pink and the all the trees were red, her friend Eliza said, "Siri, you're so intelligent, and so helpful you should go to work for Apple as a personal assistant."
So she did. Than they all lived happily ever after."
far away, there was a young, quite intelligent agent by the name of Siri.One beautiful day, when the air was pink and the all the trees were red, her friend Eliza said, "Siri, you're so intelligent, and so helpful you should go to work for Apple as a personal assistant."
So she did. Than they all lived happily ever after."
I was blown away!!!
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No Arn, you couldn't be more wrong. Gather around and I'll tell you reality: I remember getting firmware upgrades for my various Symbian smartphones before the iPhone era, such as updating the P900 firmware waaay back in 2003!
( Another example of why the rating system is broken - you got 40 positive clicks for your incorrect statement!! So far, I've got -1 for my factually correct statement. I'm sure -1 will grow to be much more negative! )
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I get screenshots texted almost daily from a friend with a 4S because of all the crazy stuff Siri says and answers correctly. Even in beta she's quite brilliant for a server farm.I like that video... especially when the guy said "Tell me a story". Siri replied with "Once upon a time... no, it's too silly." I decided to ask her the same question and she said the following:
"Once upon a time, in a virtual galaxy far
One beautiful day, when the air was pink and the all the trees were red, her friend Eliza said, "Siri, you're so intelligent, and so helpful you should go to work for Apple as a personal assistant."
So she did. Than they all lived happily ever after."
I was blown away!!!
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Apparently you missed the huge wifi logo.
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Ahhhh STEEEEEEEELLLLAAAAAAAAA! (I had to).
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Go and grab your iPhone/iPod, turn Airplane Mode On, then turn WiFi On. It certainly works on the iPod at least.
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Wow! They able to make Siri to talk with Apple servers without Internet connection (i.e., in Aeroplane mode)!
Go and grab your iPhone/iPod, turn Airplane Mode On, then turn WiFi On. It certainly works on the iPod at least.
Very typical. The iPhone 4 and iPad 1 are fully capable of running siri, just as they are able to mirror the image to a TV via airplay or with a cable - jailbroken devices can do so - but apple won't do it. So what is the point of "upgrading" when the best upgrades are left out of the older devices on purpose? You must buy a whole new device and hand in your cash. Great deal.
I find this way too entertaining. I had an iPhone 4. I wanted Siri. So I bought an iPhone 4S (well, I wanted 64 gb storage also 
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People who are complaining about Siri not being on older hardware: go buy an Android.
People who want Siri, go buy an iPhone 4S.
People who are saying they are going to JB once it's available, remember Siri is on Apple's servers, and I'm sure it's pretty easy to re-weed out the iPhone 4 and iPod Touches with a Siri-brain-upgrade.
Quit complaining and enjoy the awesome phone you have. If you do that, I'll stop reading these ridiculous complaints and enjoy the awesome phone I have. With Siri.
)People who are complaining about Siri not being on older hardware: go buy an Android.
People who want Siri, go buy an iPhone 4S.
People who are saying they are going to JB once it's available, remember Siri is on Apple's servers, and I'm sure it's pretty easy to re-weed out the iPhone 4 and iPod Touches with a Siri-brain-upgrade.
Quit complaining and enjoy the awesome phone you have. If you do that, I'll stop reading these ridiculous complaints and enjoy the awesome phone I have. With Siri.
Thank you for pointing it out. Jesus. I'm getting tired of these forums. I barely come over anymore due to the amount of idiocy I read here. Some of us are capable of using Apple and still thinking objectively. I'm an apple user and - think apple is no better than a thief with a knife - (hyperbole of course). But I can't stand the hypocrisy of running commercials with gandhi's images while forcing foxcon to mount nets between buildings to capture "suicidees," or purposefully denying users updates to force upgrades. Yeah, I'm bashing.
Come to these news item forum discussion and treat them like entertainment, for a laugh. Bring your pop corn. Read all the incorrect BS that goes on. The last one I read is a claim that Apple were the first smartphone manufacturer to update their software! Prior to the iPhone, no smartphones ever got their firmware updated in its lifetime.
Other non news forums tend to be a lot better.