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Siri on iPad 2
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...and also add that Siri is a new (in it's current form) and somewhat bata service. Apple want's to start "slow" and by the time of the iPad 3/iPhone 5 Apple will have a lot of the kinks ironed out and better fine tuned for the masses.
So Apple is risking their flagship phone product with a "new and somewhat beta" app that amounts to the most publicized feature of the iPhone 4S? If it has problems is the response going to be "You're not talking to it right"?
Don't think so. The "masses" are the target market for the iPhone 4S. This is an effort to pump up sales for the iPhone in the absence of other compelling new features. Pure and simple.
I sure hope not. While many seem impressed at the Siri concept, once the newness wears off my bet is it ends up a gimmick that loses it's lustre in time. I have no desire to have a conversation with a bloody computer when it's an inanimate object. I'd much rather enjoy talking to a friend while I take two seconds to look up a movie the easy way via my iPhone. I can multitask with things like that better than a damn computer any day. One has to draw the line somewhere.
To many of us then having Siri on our iPad 2 would be described as "fun" but unnecessary. But if you consider it as an accessibility tool that would GREATLY make lives easier for some people suffering from poor vision, arthritis, etc then it's really unfortunate that it's being held back purely for marketing reasons.
Hopefully this is just a temporary feature restriction that they'll allow in a few weeks because my mom would greatly benefit from Siri but I dont think I could afford spending another $600 next year just for one feature.
Hopefully this is just a temporary feature restriction that they'll allow in a few weeks because my mom would greatly benefit from Siri but I dont think I could afford spending another $600 next year just for one feature.
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No, not yet, maybe never but...
Could it maybe, just maybe, be that Apple didn't want to overwhelm its servers on day one with gazillions of Siri requests from the existing iPhone 4/iPad 2 user base but want to ease it in more gently? That might allow them to get up to spec and then switch on iPhone 4 and iPad 2 users?
Just a thought.
@MuscleNerd Anyone hoping for a "port" of Siri from iPhone4S: pending a very low-level A5 exploit, it likely can't be done without piracy 
1 gig? Gimped? What a load of nonsense. Grab Vlingo from app store on your current iPad or iPhone and tell me the voice recognition is flawed?
Siri is nothing but an amazing iOS feature deliberately held back from current devices so as to make the 4s attractive. I wait to hear from jailbreakers on bringing it to current hardware. jB will explode when confirmed.
Siri is nothing but an amazing iOS feature deliberately held back from current devices so as to make the 4s attractive. I wait to hear from jailbreakers on bringing it to current hardware. jB will explode when confirmed.
I see that purported Steve Jobs quote popping up again and again. But did he really say that? Whenever I search for the actual quote, the closest I came to was "avoid holding it that way" or something like that, which is pretty much identical to what other phone companies state on their manuals. For instance, "Avoid holding the bottom of the phone because it might negatively affect your signal," etc.
Thanks. Just as I figured. I wonder how the commonly used phrase turned into something entirely different and nasty sounding "you're holding it wrong"?
Sorry, don't see much difference between "You're holding it wrong" and "Avoid holding it that way." But if it makes folks happy, I suppose the hypothetical advice for anyone who finds Siri problematic might be "Avoid talking to it that way."
First phrase is accusatory, snark and demeaning-sounding whereas second one is straight off manuals in almost any devices and has no offensive tone.
If you don't see the difference, replace all the jokes about "Holding it wrong" with the phrase "Avoid holding it that way." They immediately lose the snakiness. I think it's a good example of the people creating a caricature of a personality instead of a real one.
There have been many posts about this over in the iPhone arena. One of the devs stated that Siri requires the GPU found in the A5, which means yes it could run on the iPad 2 (especially since it is has been all but confirmed that the iPhone 4S only has 512mb of RAM same as the iPad 2). It would not work with iPod Touches or iPhone 4 or earlier since they have a different GPU.
However, there is one big issue. Siri requires a data connection as most of the work is offloaded to servers based elsewhere. For iPad 2 Wifi only this would be a huge issue as people would be confused why it "only works sometimes".... Meaning it only works when they have it connected via Wifi, but many wouldn't make that connection and complain about Siri not working. It would work great for an iPad 2 3G as long as the 3G is always when the Wifi isn't connected.
However, there is one big issue. Siri requires a data connection as most of the work is offloaded to servers based elsewhere. For iPad 2 Wifi only this would be a huge issue as people would be confused why it "only works sometimes".... Meaning it only works when they have it connected via Wifi, but many wouldn't make that connection and complain about Siri not working. It would work great for an iPad 2 3G as long as the 3G is always when the Wifi isn't connected.
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On my iPad2 it says that she's leaving on Oct 15th. So looks like not going to be supported. Amazing because why is it working now then all of sudden they decide not to SUPPORT it.
On my iPad2 it says that she's leaving on Oct 15th. So looks like not going to be supported. Amazing because why is it working now then all of sudden they decide not to SUPPORT it.
Whatever. Personally I thought the entire episode was an amusing though relatively minor public relations disaster for Apple, not a commentary on Steve Jobs' personality. But I've never seen the two entities as one and the same.
My own take on the comment was simply a reminder of the old joke about the guy who goes to the doctor and says, "Doc, my throat hurts when I swallow," and the physician replies,, "If it hurts when you do that, don't do that."
Apple is calling Siri beta not me (did you watch the keynote?). Also the 4S isn't so much of a flagship as an update to the 4. 4S is interim update like the 3S was. The iPhone is on a 2 year redesign cycle and will likely stay that way which also coincides with the carriers contract.
I realize that many Apple fans are licking their wounds over the tepid reception given the iPhone 4S by the tech press as well as by those who wanted to reclaim spec bragging rights for the iPhone. But the fact remains that the iPhone 4S is the flagship Apple iOS device.
If Apple didn't want Siri to be showcased as the most exciting feature of the new iPhone, they wouldn't have spent the time hyping it at the Keynote.
And if Siri doesn't perform flawlessly, reminding those who purchased the iPhone 4S that "we said it was only a beta" won't stifle the outcry.
Apple's strategy is working very well. The iPhone 4S is selling like hotcakes. And that's not because it has an upgraded processor. It's because Siri promises to make the iPhone an even more "personal" device than ever. Apple needs that to pump sales of the iPhone as competitors up their game in the phone market. They don't need such a feature for the iPad. At least not yet.