Siri on iPad 2

[AIP5]

I'm actually concerned about this.

IF they release Siri on iPad 2 (which shouldn't have any problem whatsoever running it), will they have to charge for a Siri update?

It's a really confusing law that I don't get, but from the gists of it, I think they have to charge consumers (or face legal penalties) for major features they didn't announce at the time of the unveiling, but later announce it. Like early iPod touch OS updates, and Facetime for older Macs.

 

[Fireworld]

Porting Siri to the iPhone 4/iPad 2 Will Require Piracy

 

[joseph14]

Some articles last week said "sources" have said that Siri requires 1 GB RAM, and apparently Siri's developers have said that they gimped the app quite a bit due to memory constraints. They haven't said how much RAM the 4S has, but if it's 1 GB then this argument makes sense. What makes the most sense though, is that Apple wants something big to be 4S exclusive since it's mainly a spec upgrade from the 4. I'm sure the iPad 3 and next year's iPod Touch will have it too, if not Mac OS X eventually as well.

Looks like there is not 1GB RAM so the iPad 2 should be completely capable to run Siri.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220877/iPhone_4S_teardowns_reveal_A5_processor

My thought would be they just wanted to keep Siri exclusive for the iPhone 4s launch. Perhaps they will be so kind as to allow those who have bought an iPad 2 to use it some time after that.

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I'm actually concerned about this.

IF they release Siri on iPad 2 (which shouldn't have any problem whatsoever running it), will they have to charge for a Siri update?

It's a really confusing law that I don't get, but from the gists of it, I think they have to charge consumers (or face legal penalties) for major features they didn't announce at the time of the unveiling, but later announce it. Like early iPod touch OS updates, and Facetime for older Macs.

Which law is that. I'm really confused. Maybe Apple would have to pay some licensing fees to any company that have patents on parts of the features, but they could still give it for free for the consumers if they wanted.

 

[jfgcf]

Siri and Ipad Camera

Really? And I always thought it has 1Gb...

It's Apple Iphone4Siri
The S mini Siri
And to screw up ipad 2 user they are going to create a ipad 2 with the ad"We introduce Ipad 2S, ipad doesn't changed a bit since ipad 2 but in this one you will get Siri.Thats the important thing"
Because the ipad camera is a s### it should be better because the ipad is more expensive than iphone camera and iphone camera have 5 megapixels and we only have 0.7 megapixels common we are in 2011 not in 1981 and in 1981 the cameras were better than te ipad one , apple "steels money from their customers

 

[RossMc]

Apparently this is on the iPhone 4.

https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/125039502635958272

https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/125035396085190656

 

[Dhelsdon]

It's been confirmed to run on a iOS5 jailbreak, so I don't see why it wouldn't run on an iPad 2. It should be even more compatible due to having the same A5 chip as the 4S.

 

[palpatine]

It's Apple Iphone4Siri
The S mini Siri
And to screw up ipad 2 user they are going to create a ipad 2 with the ad"We introduce Ipad 2S, ipad doesn't changed a bit since ipad 2 but in this one you will get Siri.Thats the important thing"
Because the ipad camera is a s### it should be better because the ipad is more expensive than iphone camera and iphone camera have 5 megapixels and we only have 0.7 megapixels common we are in 2011 not in 1981 and in 1981 the cameras were better than te ipad one , apple "steels money from their customers

stealing money by producing a product they "forced" you to buy? they didn't hide the camera's crappiness from you. so, why the rant?

apple offered siri with the iphone 4s. buy it if you want it.

apple didn't offer siri with the ipad 2. buy it if you want it.

when the ipad 3 comes out, it probably won't have everything under the sun on it. but, i bet it will be pretty impressive, and we will all buy it, because it is the best experience available. if you don't think so, then buy something else.

 

[rayjay86]

Going to macrumors.com and typing

siri

in the search box would have answered your question:

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/28/apple-purchases-iphone-personal-assistant-company-siri/

In the time it took you to type all that and you could have said whether Siri was owned b apple or not...why people feel the need to say dumb crap like that on a forum meant for discussion is beyond me.

 

[Masquerade]

there are no escuses why Apple cannot make it to ipad 2 and mac os x.

 

[gregrose]

there are no escuses why Apple cannot make it to ipad 2 and mac os x.

because they give crappy updates and want to get every dime out of you they can...$$$$$$$$

 

[Masquerade]

because they give crappy updates and want to get every dime out of you they can...$$$$$$$$

oh yeah. is better that they change that m$nd otherwise, google will catch them in a snap - they have labs digging information in semantic ways, voice, and a mobile OS in a nut: more resources than apple to make a better assistant.

 

[jaytv111]

Hmm. If they could get Siri to work on the iPhone 4, does anyone think it could work on the original iPad? I have no interest in buying a new iPad 2. I don't know if I'm going to get a new iPhone yet but I'd at least like it on my iPad for now. It's always connected to wifi too so the network thing isn't an issue.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Since Siri is in "Beta," I hope that they will begin rolling out this amazing software to not the iPad but the Mac OS as well.

In two words:
Knowledge Navigator!

Apple has long thought of this! Still its good to be reminded of where Apple is going from time to time.

Not gonna happen. Apple's choice to differentiate the iPhone 4S product. No technical limitation but Siri is more suited to a purely mobile device with a strong communication component.

For now ... well said. However considering my reply to quote above yours, and Apple's historical product announcements, releases, and evolution - nothing major done by Apple as a highlighted feature is EVER done in "half-steps". you can bet with the huge uptake in education in the USA and soon globally - Its about FREAKIN time - that Siri WILL be available for iPad in the next iOS5 update - not a bug fix. Why? Considering advances in teaching with Autism, Hearing impaired (which which affects 20% of the American pop; you can ask Siri to show things), along with others with learning challenges this is a no brainer. That's my take.

 

[phyrexia]

Hmm. If they could get Siri to work on the iPhone 4, does anyone think it could work on the original iPad? I have no interest in buying a new iPad 2. I don't know if I'm going to get a new iPhone yet but I'd at least like it on my iPad for now. It's always connected to wifi too so the network thing isn't an issue.

ip4 has twice the RAM as iPad.

 

[melman101]

ip4 has twice the RAM as iPad.

No it doesn't. Both have 512MB. Confirmed.

 

[DeepIn2U]

No it doesn't. Both have 512MB. Confirmed.

If he meant the iPad1 then yes IP4/4S have twice the memory - unless I'm mistaken. But in the context of the last page you are indeed correct.

So ... regardless of the last 3 pages and varying point of views ... has the jailbroken community actually have anything tangible and working without causing legality issues with Apple? I have a feeling Apple can do something with the data connection stream.

Anyone upgrade to the IP4S have anything new in regards to data pkgs on their monthly bill changed due to the upgrade? (Think of RIM's NOC requiring a specific APN with your carrier, much like a data stick uses a specific APN to route data through a gateway on the providers network).

 

[Matthew Yohe]

Looks like there is not 1GB RAM so the iPad 2 should be completely capable to run Siri.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220877/iPhone_4S_teardowns_reveal_A5_processor

That means nothing. We don't know if there's a special chip to assist in voice decoding.

Apparently this is on the iPhone 4.
https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/125039502635958272

https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/125035396085190656

Great, an iPhone 4 showing pictures of Siri not connecting to Apple's network to even use Siri.

It's been confirmed to run on a iOS5 jailbreak, so I don't see why it wouldn't run on an iPad 2. It should be even more compatible due to having the same A5 chip as the 4S.

Not it hasn't. That is, unless if you actually define "Run" in a way that means "doesn't actually work, or do anything representative of the actual Siri application."

 

[jaytv111]

ip4 has twice the RAM as iPad.

Would that really be the mitigating factor? All Siri does on the iPhone itself is capture audio, compress it, and send it to Apple's servers for analysis (at least that's what I've been led to believe).

 

[Matthew Yohe]

Would that really be the mitigating factor? All Siri does on the iPhone itself is capture audio, compress it, and send it to Apple's servers for analysis (at least that's what I've been led to believe).

We don't know that.

 

[Dhelsdon]

Not it hasn't. That is, unless if you actually define "Run" in a way that means "doesn't actually work, or do anything representative of the actual Siri application."

The developers of the jailbreak have confirmed it themselves, look on twitter.

 

[neutrino23]

...and also add that Siri is a new (in it's current form) and somewhat bata service. Apple want's to start "slow" and by the time of the iPad 3/iPhone 5 Apple will have a lot of the kinks ironed out and better fine tuned for the masses.

Agreed. Not just somewhat beta, they explicitly said Beta. Restricting Siri to the iPhone 4S certainly helps phone sales, but I think it is a huge help for introducing Siri smoothly. We've already seen times where the service seems to be off line for an hour or so. I wonder if that is due to stressing the servers or maybe Apple is updating the software on the server side based on what they've been learning since the release. This way they only have to deal with a few million Siri users and not 100+ million.

Technically I see no reason that Siri can't be used on an iPad. I wouldn't expect it before January.

 

[Matthew Yohe]

The developers of the jailbreak have confirmed it themselves, look on twitter.

I did... it's definitely not "working" yet.

 

[Entopia7]

Nope. This is the exact quote.

I just realized we've seen the last of Steve Jobs' quips sent from his iDevices. This thread is suddenly depressing.

 

[neutrino23]

Looks like there is not 1GB RAM so the iPad 2 should be completely capable to run Siri.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220877/iPhone_4S_teardowns_reveal_A5_processor

My thought would be they just wanted to keep Siri exclusive for the iPhone 4s launch. Perhaps they will be so kind as to allow those who have bought an iPad 2 to use it some time after that.

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Which law is that. I'm really confused. Maybe Apple would have to pay some licensing fees to any company that have patents on parts of the features, but they could still give it for free for the consumers if they wanted.

I'm slightly acquainted with this having managed a sales office for three years. The idea is that in accounting you can't declare revenue for something until you have delivered it to the end user. You can't ship a partial product and then declare your profits and try to ship the missing parts later. Because the iPad 2 is a finished product Apple has declared the revenues from it when it ships. If Apple starts adding on major features for free I guess that clouds the idea that it was finished when they declared revenue.

For this reason Apple deferred declaring revenues from the iPhone for the first two years or so. It allowed them to add features in software for no charge. However, it caused a lot of confusion for investors.

I don't see why Apple couldn't just give Siri to iPad 2 users as a gift, but that is why I do science and engineering and not accounting.

 

[milo]

Because Apple wants to sell iPhone 4S's. Get it?

And they don't want to sell iPad 2's?