If your point(s) are reasonable - so are those that disagree with you. Since you can't state for a fact that Siri won't work on other devices (notice I said FACT) - then both possibilities are plausible. Yet you only want to acknowledge one. Do you even know the definition of denial?
the only facts we have is that it works on a few occasions. Thats it. show me evidence that someone has had it running with a normal daily usage for even 2 weeks without any issues and i'll agree. until someone does that, then we have no idea for certain if there is some unforseen technical issue that apple discovered whilst they did thorough testing that obviously no-one in the real world has actually done. As i and others have said, currently we cannot 100% confirm why Apple left it out and that's all i'm trying to convey, but you and the others on your side are so much in denial you cannot admit that it's still not certain either way.
As for entitlement - I think you're reading too much into it. No one (or at least the ones discussing this with you specifically) is arguing that they are entitled to Siri or even WANT Siri. That's a leap in logic/namecalling which is ridiculous. Just because we argue that it's possible doesn't mean we want it. We are saying there's no reason for it not to be on other devices. That's a statement. Show me where I (or others arguing this with you) have said "And I want Siri on my device" or something even remotely similar.
where did i name you when i made that comment? i didn't. i was making a general comment in response to others in this thread, but if you think it's aimed at you, maybe you have a guilty conscience...
Bad analogy - but I expect nothing else. Try arguing your point without one. You can't. And you're incorrect. Siri has been show to work 100% as it's supposed to in the latest demos. So either you're making stuff up - or you haven't done your research. And it's funny to see you call us defensive. Especially after you claim you're done with this thread and then keep coming back to DEFEND yourself
You're only calling it a bad analogy cos it proves you wrong.... i didn't bring any analogy into my argument until then, i debated my side fine til then, but since other people were bringing such bad analogies in (even admitted as such) i thought i would too for chits and giggles, your side brought analogies in first and you're digging at me about it?! haha.
only reason i'm still in this thread is cos i am stuck in hospital longer than i thought and been a bit bored, but you picking on that just shows desperation dude....
Who made you the arbiter of what is enough testing to "prove" it works or doesn't. Here's a hint. Nobody. If the testing isn't enough for you - so be it. But that doesn't mean the tests aren't valid.
the tests just prove it works a few times, not enough to prove it works in normal daily use. but you seem to miss this very crucial and my main point.
And the Antenna issue was a PERFECT example to counter your comment about how Apple would have done extensive testing and KNOWN that Siri would or wouldn't work on other devices. Newsflash - Apple isn't infallible. And you also have zero proof that they tested Siri on other devices and found it to NOT work.
no it's not. nowhere near the perfect example. Apple had all the factors to test Siri in their labs, they did not have all the factors for the antenna issue as their campus obviously has perfect full signal strength and their field testing was done in cases to disguise it, so explain how that is the perfect example compared to Siri? The fact Apple has all the devices, it's more logically that they did test it on older devices, unless you're a conspiracy nut....
Notice all those features were already announced. Feature freeze was in effect when that first Beta shipped. iOS Betas are rolled out in phases for the developer release. That is concentrate testing on key areas instead of one big package (an OS distribution is huge compared to an application like Siri). Internally, the Beta already had all of those, they didn't just write the code then and there as they added those features to the subsequent Betas. They send out subsets so that testing is much more efficient and so is bug reporting. If they shipped out a full release, they'd spread out the reports and testing and might miss more bugs.
Also Beta means feature complete.
Beta testing does not mean everything is turned on. For iOS 5 for example if you noticed everything was feature complete. They just turned items on after testing was completed in beta.
Provide evidence that there could be a possible slow down in older devices. Nothing found out so far points to that conclusion. All signs point to the iPhone is just a being a recording device that sends the audio to Apple servers to all the work.
There have been zero signs to possible device issues. The worse thing I can see siri doing is it starts building a file storing some information. But that type of searching is pretty easy to do and very quick as it would be index and in some type of order making it a cake walk to jump threw.
really? so custom SMS, Email and other alert tones, they were all announced before? oh wait, they weren't. Also, if Siri was feature complete for beta, how is it that there's new features for Siri in 5.1 with the hardware controls that are coming, that weren't announced when Siri was announced.....
Also these new hardware controls for Siri are pointing towards more local based dealings for Siri, such as turning wifi on and off. Not solid evidence, but it's just showing that my comments are not baseless....