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No, people just use their phones more these days as they have become more and more useful at doing more stuff, so their battery dies quicker.

True and that's why they should increase battery life.
Instead they make the device thinner and keep the same battery life or improve it a little bit, which is good but not great.
 
If this does turn out to be the case, here is hoping force touch is worth that trade off. I've never used it so I can't judge, but the things I hear aren't as positive as, say, when fingerprint scanning was introduced.

My brand new macbook has a force touch trackpad. It's nothing special. Actually, it's pretty useless.
 
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True and that's why they should increase battery life.
Instead they make the device thinner and keep the same battery life or improve it a little bit, which is good but not great.

They have. You cut off the bit of my comment that shows that they have pretty much doubled battery life since the iPhone 1.
 
How clever, a goldfish for the gold version of the phone. What will the silver version have, a silverfish? :D

And the black version gets a Blackfish.

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Not feeling the hype yet. Last year everyone seemed to be talking about the new iPhone, with a new leak every day. I know this year is only an S release, and last year we were anticipating Apple Watch, but I thought Apple might be releasing controlled leaks to build excitement?

Leaks that look basically the same don't tend to build much excitement, yet they'll still sell a boatload of them with very little changed as they've always done with S-type update.
 
Why don't they just improve the battery efficiency in the processor, AND leave the current size battery in? Make the back of the phone flush with the camera lens in order to have more room for the battery. You'd be able to lay it on a table with no wobbling, have more battery life, and probably easier to hold phone with the added bit of thickness.

Apple! Hire this man now!
 
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I really don't get Apple's obsession with thinness. I'd much rather have a thicker phone and MORE battery life.

As much as I dislike the Plus size I think I'm going to have to go 6s Plus because my Apple Watch is killing the battery on my 6.
I thought these phones were going to be slightly thicker?
 
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So let me get this straight: the new S series will supposedly feature a smaller battery with less mAh output, yet still be just as or more efficient than the current iPhone 6/6+?? (Did MacRumors really just write that?) Is this even possible from an engineering standpoint, especially given the fact that the new phones will supposedly include 2GB of ram? Companies are trying to find ways to increase battery mAh, not go in the opposite direction...
Has anyone from Apple ever gotten up on stage and given you a worse battery life number? My guess is Phil will quote the same battery life as current iPhones.
 
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Fuel-cell batteries is a dead idea. There are only two practical applications for fuel-cell batteries:
1) Extended-Range-Extended-Life: Satellite phones, like mountain climbers, first responders, search and rescue, hunters, fishers, people at sea (including ferries and cargo freighters.) Which requires replacable battery types. Smartphones are not even a viable market for this.
2) Extended-Range-Electric-Vehicle: You are not going to see Fuel Cell cars and buses. You're going to see Fuel Cell train engines, 5th wheels, and RV's. Basically vehicles that are super-inefficient as gasoline to begin with.

Fuel Cell's aren't going to compete with LiPO. You can only charge fuel cells a handful of times. This makes their target market something more like flashlights and emergency use. You're not going to stick them in anything that is currently LiPO or NiMH. What you're going to do is have a general-purpose power "brick" that you plug in things that need a charge via USB. This is great when you're at a convention that wishes to charge you a few thousand dollars to have an outlet. But you also have to go back to your hotel room sometime.

you read the articles this week on UK company Intelligent Energy? i don't know much about the topic, but my point was still that 'super batteries' are still a little ways off. yet everyone expects them now. or they don't realize the tradeoffs with apple providing a 2-3 day charge. which they're actually getting closer to with is/energy saving features.
 
Has anyone from Apple ever gotten up on stage and given you a worse battery life number? My guess is Phil will quote the same battery life as current iPhones.

Agreed. All this talk of shorter battery life is a non-issue. Apple are not going to release a product that does not give you all day battery life. That's the bench mark they've set for themselves. How this could come as a surprise to a macrumours regular is like dolly parton being surprised she can't sleep on her stomach. I dunno, I'm just talking crap....
 
Why don't they just improve the battery efficiency in the processor, AND leave the current size battery in? Make the back of the phone flush with the camera lens in order to have more room for the battery. You'd be able to lay it on a table with no wobbling, have more battery life, and probably easier to hold phone with the added bit of thickness.

Why don't you just purchase another smartphone? :)
 
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Has anyone from Apple ever gotten up on stage and given you a worse battery life number? My guess is Phil will quote the same battery life as current iPhones.
air 2 had worse battery life on the keynote chart when compared to air 1.

for phones
4S had same battery life as 4 translation: worse
for 5S they added 1 hour to that chart. translation: same.
6S will probably have same on that chart. translation: worse
 
They have. You cut off the bit of my comment that shows that they have pretty much doubled battery life since the iPhone 1.

Since iPhone 1, yes. But the battery life has improved only a little bit from iPhone 4 to 5S. The only huge improvement is iPhone 6+ because the battery is really big compared to the older models, but I think they should continue to increase battery life at least on the 4.7'' model
 
now there's something that A) matters and B) is achievable here and now. you want a week long battery charge? gonna have to wait. fuel cell batteries made news this week, butit's still future tech. more storage and the ability to not be greedy (cough iCloud, cough) IS a present-day reality.

you want a two-day charge? you'll have to sacrifice something - like camera sensor quality - or - no '''''innovation'''' like touch ID or force touch. the battery you desire is a couple years off. stop whining about how your obsessive phone use doesn't get you through the day. or buy one that will lose OS support and/or truly integrated/useful features, and buy the android that lasts longer. so you can get your 76th round of candy crush in...

Oh hush, bigger batteries are achievable here and now - just see every other manufacture with the same size phone AND also many with smaller phones who pack bigger batteries. Come off your silly little 'tradeoffs' high horse. They claimed in interviews that the iPhone 6 has the size battery it did because of thickness tradeoffs - now the iPhone 6s IS thicker and wouldn't you know it, the battery not only isn't larger but it's actually smaller. Disingenuous to say the least, especially considering that 7000 Aluminum is much lighter than the previous generations 6000 series. So they made a phone that's thicker, yet lighter and still didn't pack the space with the 1 thing millions of customers have been asking for, for years - a larger bloody battery. Rubbish mate, rubbish.
 
Agreed. All this talk of shorter battery life is a non-issue. Apple are not going to release a product that does not give you all day battery life. That's the bench mark they've set for themselves. How this could come as a surprise to a macrumours regular is like dolly parton being surprised she can't sleep on her stomach. I dunno, I'm just talking crap....
I choose to not get worked up over rumors. Let's see what battery life is really like with iOS 9 and the A9 chip.
 
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To me anyway, all u gotta do is use your phone less... What a miracle,, a full week charge ....or longer.

We expect more from Apple before we do more ? That doesn't make sense to me.. If i the amount i use for iPhone for in tasks goes up because of lager display i know i'll be burning battery quicker....
 
My brand new macbook has a force touch trackpad. It's nothing special. Actually, it's pretty useless.


Only thing its OK for is clicking on things in Safari. Links will load up in a preview page, and words will be searched etc.


But ya, it's pretty useless considering I use FireFox.
 
My brand new macbook has a force touch trackpad. It's nothing special. Actually, it's pretty useless.

on the mac it has limited function, on the apple watch it is very useful. You are comparing a touch screen device to a non-touch screen.

It can be very useful on the iPhone. example: hard press the espn app and see your "favorites" without having to actually open the app.
 
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