Sketchy Report Claims iPhone 5S Delayed Until Late 2013 Over Switch to 4.3-Inch Display

Maybe this is the iPhone "Math"?

http://www.stableytimes.com/news/iphone-6-and-iphone-mini-apple-divergent-screen-size-roadmap/

^ One day ago.
 
Here is a twist : all the leaks about the assumed 5S screen and logic board could be for the low cost iphone.

And the iphone 5S is indeed using 4.3 :D
But that means another new screen resolution like 1280x720 or maybe 1080p
 
exactly my thought - no doubt someone's got a 4.3" screen in their hands

- but it could be for the iphone 6 - or just a bunch of screens for an apple usability experiment for some future device.

Rocketman said:
Now that the 5S and plastic iPhone are in various stages of production, the prototypes of the next gen are starting to confuse the supply chain watchers.

Rocketman
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keysofanxiety said:
Far from it, Tiger. It's the tick-tock cycle. Intel do it; new gen one year, upgrade that gen the next, and then go to a new gen the following year.

And Apple have been doing it with the iPhone since its inception.

  • Original iPhone
  • iPhone 3G (Added 3G, new look)
  • 3GS - Updated internals
  • iPhone 4 (new look)
  • 4S - updated internals
  • 5 (new look)
  • 5S - updated internals

The only exception to this rule is the original iPhone & the iPhone 3G; IMO that's mainly because the step between the two was so huge, and I think they learnt so much in the first year of production & design that they knew they could make it considerably thinner, lighter and better designed with the 3G.

So it's not something new, it's Apple's phone cycle.
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Agree with you, but my concern is that they are following the Blackberry release cycle -- and look what happened to them.

3Gs was a fantastic phone, Apple hit gold with it, 4s was cute, 5s is just BLAH.
 
I would finally upgrade my iPhone4.

Still I can't see Apple switching sizes this soon.

The only way I could see this is if Apple plans to keep the 4" as their budget line and 4.3" as their premium and if they went that route I rather they went a little bigger than 4.3".

2014 is when I expect to see a larger iPhone though
 
Tiger8 said:
Agree with you, but my concern is that they are following the Blackberry release cycle -- and look what happened to them.

3Gs was a fantastic phone, Apple hit gold with it, 4s was cute, 5s is just BLAH.
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From what I can recall, BlackBerry had a thousand different models and were perfectly content with doing absolutely nothing to evolve their products. Similar to Nokia back in the 3310 days :D

And a 5S definitely is innovation. Allow me to explain; it means they've sorted any supply constraints with the case, giving Apple an opportunity to really concentrate on beefing up the internals.

Have faith, it'll be excellent and sell like hotcakes. :apple:
 
redscull said:
Not true. The iPhone 5 wasn't just a "new look." It also has updated internals over the 4S. Whereas the 4 was, like you said, only a new look; it retained the same internals as the 3GS.
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Except that's not true... The 4 had an updated camera, processor, and RAM.
 
I, too, think a 4.3" iPhone 5s is unlikely but can't rule it out for these reasons:

1) I think Apple is sensitive to the market traction of Samsung.
2) Apple never said there's a "5s" (I don't think they have) and so haven't implied the next iPhone is just an update of the current model.
3) All of the rumors about the 5s are no more than just that... rumors. So we don't know that if there really is a 4.3" iPhone, it's the result of some last-minute change. May have been planned and concealed for some time.

Like I said -- unlikely but who knows for sure?
 
Well I guess now that you Americans finally have same sex marriage, a change in orientation of the connector is acceptable for the 5S
 
Yannin28 said:
Except that's not true... The 4 had an updated camera, processor, and RAM.
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Which will be precisely the case with 5 (even not mentioning various other possibilities). Is it enough? iPhone 5 is a great phone for me and I don't envy the holders of giant Samsungs. But I might welcome bigger screen too, 0.3 inch or even 0.7 incht. More than 4.8 inch is becoming too big and heavy, I guess.
 
For the first time Apple have strong competition from Samsung and HTC, I think it would be wise for them to skip the S models, they cant get complacent or they will end up like blackberry :)
 
Maybe the logic boards were controlled leaks to make people think they were for an iPhone 5S but in actual fact they're for the lower cost iPhone. Then Apple would have the opportunity for 'one more thing' when they pull out a 4.3" fingerprint sensing beast of a phone.

4 inch lower cost colour version for the masses
4.3 inch premium version for the rest

edit: Thinking about it a little more, if a new iPhone is coming out with a fingerprint sensor that's not just a speed change - it's a major new feature and something that does not deserve to be lumbered with the 'S' interim releases.
 
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apolloa said:
Hahahahaha gotta love this site, 'it is highly unlikely to be true'. Yeah because a finger print scanner is sooooo much more true, or anything else they say on this site, is so much more true or fact. Just like the vaporware Apple TV set which no doubt generates a fair few hits.
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I always have to wonder why an Apple-hating, Samsung-loving guy such as yourself would spend so much time looking at this site that you have such disdain for. Your previous posts give you away. What do you get out of trolling? Seriously, I meant it. Maybe you need a different, more healthy hobby.
 
b3ats said:
Maybe the logic boards were controlled leaks to make people think they were for an iPhone 5S but in actual fact they're for the lower cost iPhone. Then Apple would have the opportunity for 'one more thing' when they pull out a 4.3" fingerprint sensing beast of a phone.

4 inch lower cost colour version for the masses
4.3 inch premium version for the rest

edit: Thinking about it a little more, if a new iPhone is coming out with a fingerprint sensor that's not just a speed change - it's a major new feature and something that does not deserve to be lumbered with the 'S' interim releases.
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I agree with you 100%.

I would love that the next iPhone would look like this:

http://www.adr-studio.it/site/?p=485
 
HarryT said:
Think about it.

If they increase the size of the screen (in width as the iPhone 5 already had a height increase) then there's two options:

1) They will increase the number of pixels displayed to something like 1136 x 700. This would make almost ALL apps incompatible. Way to piss off the devs that are already having to update for iOS 7.

2) They DECREASE the density of the screen to keep the same number of pixels over the larger area. This would result in a less than Retina quality screen. Not happening.

Calling BS on this too.
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1) iPhones (and iPod Touch for that matter) are now 16:9 aspect ratio, so it doesn't make any sense to increase the horizontal pixels (the iPhone 5 isn't "tall", it's ~16:9 AR like almost all modern smartphones).

2) Like this poster indicated:

dlewis23 said:
Not so. If this was true. They don't have to increase the number of pixels in any way because likely the display would stay at 16:9. So 640x1136 still works. The decrease in density wouldn't really matter because its such a small drop, it would only go down to 303 PPI.
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It would drop from ~326 to ~303PPI, which is still good, though I do agree that Apple wouldn't drop a display spec. Now *if* they bumped up the resolution, and maintained the 16:9 ratio, they could get whatever PPI they want.

The problem then becomes development, which was one of the drivers behind maintaing the width of the previous devices, the fixed layouts still worked great, and most of the apps that used things like TableViews, adapted to give you more content/rows/data. Plus the top/bottom letter-boxing was pretty transparent.

If Apple wanted to maintain 326 (or greater) in a 4.3" device, AND they were OK with dropping complete redesigns needed on devs (or iOS7.x having some kind of magical auto-layout), then I'd imagine they'd still want to strike a balance between resolution and the required SOC/battery to drive it. Something like a standard HD resolution like 1280x720 would yield ~342 PPI, so the "retina" spec is the same (actually exceeding) their current marketing speak, and that's a minor bump from the existing iP5 resolution, so I imagine even a slightly tweaked A6 could match the same performance.

:cool:


CasinoOwl said:
I always have to wonder why an Apple-hating, Samsung-loving guy such as yourself would spend so much time looking at this site that you have such disdain for.
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Slow time at the drive through. :D
 
hmmm, I don't mind waiting another 2-3 months to get a 4.3" iPhone.

But of course that's unlikely since this is a purported "S" model.
 
I'd like to see the premium iphone with a bigger screen, and the cheap iphone with a 4" screen. I think this is about a 50/50 chance by the end of the year.
 
dlewis23 said:
Not so. If this was true. They don't have to increase the number of pixels in any way because likely the display would stay at 16:9. So 640x1136 still works.

The decrease in density wouldn't really matter because its such a small drop, it would only go down to 303 PPI.

But also if this was true maybe the rumor of Apple doubling the resolution on the iPhone could also go along with it.
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Would it be possible to gain a higher PPI if they go with the IGZO screens this time around? When they were first being introduced, they said 500PPI was possible.
 
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