What I want
Personnaly I just want them to refresh the dGpu and processor at the same time, that is all. 😎
Personnaly I just want them to refresh the dGpu and processor at the same time, that is all. 😎
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Skip the updated 15" MBP and wait for Skylake
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Woodcrest64
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I'm thinking and hoping Skylake pushes the 15" MacBook Pro to 10hrs of battery life. I just hope Apple doesn't take the efficiency of Skylake and decides to make the Macbook Pro thinner 😱
Kal-037
macrumors 68020
Well I imagine that won't happen until Cannonlake at the soonest, (not after just releasing a brand new dGPU) Curses to Apple and their evil business ways. 😉
Kal.
Honestly with the way MacBooks maintain their resale value I plan to upgrade to the new rMBP from my 2012 model, should be an appreciable difference, and then sell it when Skylake comes out and keep that one for a good 2-3 years. Not much of a loss to have a good computer plus I don't see Apple refreshing till early next year.
Whatever Intel's plan are for Broadwell-H, Apple are well-informed. The facts of Apple's 15" MBP release yesterday are the first evidence which leads me to believe that Broadwell-H is probably cancelled. We'll see.
I use it every day. I'm using it now.
I very much doubt that.
I disagree. I ordered a 2.8GHz mid-2015 15" MBP yesterday for $2299 to replace my 2.8GHz early-2013 15" MBP.
Sticking with my late rMBP 15'' for now. I don't feel enthusiasm with the changes Apple has made. Perhaps the next iteration will bring it back. Sincerely mine is still going strong, switching now may feel more like a caprice rather than a need.
Im eager to know how the new dGPU performs, though. It seems Apple - AMD relationship is growing stronger.
Im eager to know how the new dGPU performs, though. It seems Apple - AMD relationship is growing stronger.
looks like Skylake laptop chips will available late this year from new leak this morn
http://www.cpu-world.com//news_2015/2015052101_Launch_schedule_of_Intel_Skylake_processors.html
http://www.cpu-world.com//news_2015/2015052101_Launch_schedule_of_Intel_Skylake_processors.html
definitive
macrumors 68020
Here's how I see it:
If you have a Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell Macbook, then there's not much need to upgrade to the current refresh. SkyLake is going to be a bigger update to your current system than this week's Haswell release. In my opinion an extra 7-9 months is worth the wait.
If you have a Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell Macbook, then there's not much need to upgrade to the current refresh. SkyLake is going to be a bigger update to your current system than this week's Haswell release. In my opinion an extra 7-9 months is worth the wait.
It al depends for what you use it... My 2.2 i7 6750M 512MB Late 2011 is falling quite a bit behind when it comes to playing a game or two once in a while. Even Diablo 3 on 1440x900 (native) on LOW settings isn't quite fun during 4 player runs (lvl70 Torment) due to frame drops. I can't even imagine how newer FPS games would (barely) run.
For work related things it's a great machine. the 2.2 i7 in cooperation with the 16gb RAM and 256GB SSD are blazing fast and I think Lightroom feels snappy (most of the time with 24mp RAW files). Okay the Lightroom 6 upgrade with GPU acceleration on a new R9 m370X would run quite a bit faster but it isn't worth the 2799 for me, I have to give you that.
applesith
macrumors 68030
I wasn't planning to upgrade even if Broadwell came along around now; planning to upgrade once the Skylake redesign arrives. My 15" Early 2011 i7 quadcore is still chugging along nicely especially since I replaced the HDD with an SSD a couple months ago. Battery isn't what it used to be but it's always plugged in with my monitor so that's not so bad.
I'd love a more portable machine with a retina display and USB 3. I'm planning to get the 13" Skylake.
I'd love a more portable machine with a retina display and USB 3. I'm planning to get the 13" Skylake.
Cindori
macrumors 68040
Which family is MBP supposed to use? Skylake-H?
Septemper-October 2015... I can live with that 😀
clovehitch
macrumors member
I think with Skylake Apple will for the most part trade off energy efficiency (battery runtime) for smaller size. In all probability as in the rMB we'll see similar use of the more advanced conformally shaped batteries. Along those lines using many of the other features from the rMB, I'm hoping we see similar size reduction in the Skylake rMBP, as in the rMBP:cMBP. I would buy such a machine straight away.
Exactly right.
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The ssd screams and nobody else is even close
An hour more battery life is quite an achievement.
I'll take the faster gpu in a heartbeat.
Force Touch. We have only begun to see what can be done with this.
It's a significant upgrade and the price is the same as always.
Given resale prices I'll sell my 2013 retina MBP and not lose much.
If you don't want one don't buy one but don't assume everyone thinks the same way you do.
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Agree with what? His poor description?
He didn't mention the 2.5 faster ssd which is a stunning achievement
Or the 1 hr additional battery life which is also quite an achievement and he says is nearly the same which is just ignorant.
I doubt he knows what force touch is capable of as developers begin to use it for their apps.
Much faster discrete gpu.
Who cares about USB C right now? I care a lot more about the Thunderbolt ports.
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State your source for a faster chip being out in a month.
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It has the latest trackpad.
The Mac Book keyboard is a compromise because of the size of the laptop.
It does have the latest screen
The latest shell? Meaning what? It's already as thin as possible with a quad core proc.
2008 is old.
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1920 X 1200 sucks on any 15 inch laptop.
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The ssd screams and nobody else is even close
An hour more battery life is quite an achievement.
I'll take the faster gpu in a heartbeat.
Force Touch. We have only begun to see what can be done with this.
It's a significant upgrade and the price is the same as always.
Given resale prices I'll sell my 2013 retina MBP and not lose much.
If you don't want one don't buy one but don't assume everyone thinks the same way you do.
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Agree with what? His poor description?
He didn't mention the 2.5 faster ssd which is a stunning achievement
Or the 1 hr additional battery life which is also quite an achievement and he says is nearly the same which is just ignorant.
I doubt he knows what force touch is capable of as developers begin to use it for their apps.
Much faster discrete gpu.
Who cares about USB C right now? I care a lot more about the Thunderbolt ports.
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State your source for a faster chip being out in a month.
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It has the latest trackpad.
The Mac Book keyboard is a compromise because of the size of the laptop.
It does have the latest screen
The latest shell? Meaning what? It's already as thin as possible with a quad core proc.
2008 is old.
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1920 X 1200 sucks on any 15 inch laptop.
I have ordered a new rMBP to replace my 2012 model. While I would appreciate a newer CPU, Apple is not really to blame for Intel's delays and some update is better than no update at all. And the new features (such as SSD speeds) will be a massive upgrade over my current computer for the things I do. Besides, I doubt that we will se an update to Skylake in autumn. Q2 2016 seems more likely.
thank god I thought I was going crazy
and yeah when Skylake comes out I'll just sell my current right before the announcement and upgrade while working on a backup machine. lose a little on depreciation, but no worries— I'll get a year of use out of the new one. Because Skylake sure as hell isn't coming out on 15" rMBPs for around a year. Probably less, but still. Apple won't even GET the processors until end of 2015.
People waiting for Skylake should not be waiting for CPU. That's largely immaterial. It's the other things that come with Skylake that are important.
1) Better integrated GPU - especially on dGPU models, better the integrated GPU, fewer times it has to switch to dedicated GPU, thus, better battery life.
2) Thunderbolt 3 - ability to run dual 4K displays or a single 5K display from a single cable. Apple won't release an updated external monitor until this can happen.
3) USB Type-C - thinner connector, 2x bandwidth, ability to charge laptop. Will dump all USB Type-A connectors in one fell swoop
4) New colors - space gray and gold. Who wouldn't want a space gray pro looking machine?
5) Better display - hopefully higher resolution, definitely lower power.
Skylake allows for a thinner system from new external ports and components, which means a much forward looking re-design.
1) Better integrated GPU - especially on dGPU models, better the integrated GPU, fewer times it has to switch to dedicated GPU, thus, better battery life.
2) Thunderbolt 3 - ability to run dual 4K displays or a single 5K display from a single cable. Apple won't release an updated external monitor until this can happen.
3) USB Type-C - thinner connector, 2x bandwidth, ability to charge laptop. Will dump all USB Type-A connectors in one fell swoop
4) New colors - space gray and gold. Who wouldn't want a space gray pro looking machine?
5) Better display - hopefully higher resolution, definitely lower power.
Skylake allows for a thinner system from new external ports and components, which means a much forward looking re-design.
I'm tired of waiting. Apple will only release this Skylake thing next year, and my 2009 white macbook is starting to fall apart... I'm definitely getting this new one with AMD gpu.
And, if I know Apple, there's always the possibility of them compromising speed and performance just to make a thinner, lighter macbook pro next year.
And, if I know Apple, there's always the possibility of them compromising speed and performance just to make a thinner, lighter macbook pro next year.
Exactly. There might not be (even though there probably will be) a CPU gain because it really isn't the bottleneck on the vast majority of systems. I'd take an extra hour of battery life (probably more!) than a 10-15% bump in CPU. And I think Skylake is supposed to add an extra 2 hours or more and add 15-20% in CPU!
It's going to be a great upgrade, but so is the current one. SSD and GPU preliminary benchmarks show that Apple wasn't kidding about massive performance increases, especially in professional editing programs of all types, especially those with big files (aka all of them these days). Honestly, I find that Apple's benchmark tend to be accurate on their website as of the past few years.
I'm more excited about the battery gains than anything else.
clovehitch
macrumors member
This Haswell 15" update is less irrelevant than it might seem. Who's to say Apple will or won't take the force-feed approach to USB-C on a Skylake MBP redesign? Possibly for this and other reasons, I'm sure there are many who will happily benefit from the new update.