I don't think any of us know. We don't know when the next refresh will be or what the hardware updates will be. Especially if he wants a 15" and doesn't currently own one, I think he's clearly making the right decision.
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Skip the updated 15" MBP and wait for Skylake
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I don't think any of us know. We don't know when the next refresh will be or what the hardware updates will be. Especially if he wants a 15" and doesn't currently own one, I think he's clearly making the right decision.
For a latest and greatest edition, possibly. For a working computer, there is little to lose buying the 15" Haswell refresh.
Is it just me or does spending over $2000 dollars for an 'old' 4th gen powered laptop when a new 21st century 6th gen powered MBP is only months away make any sense?
Other than those who absolutely 'need' a laptop now, just 'want' a new laptop regardless or are unaware of what's on the horizon (Skylake), why would someone settle for an 'update' and ignore an upcoming 'Toc'?
Other than those who absolutely 'need' a laptop now, just 'want' a new laptop regardless or are unaware of what's on the horizon (Skylake), why would someone settle for an 'update' and ignore an upcoming 'Toc'?
You care ALOT what other people do.
'Months' being most likely early next year. For most people and most tasks the GPU is the bottleneck not Haswell processors (which are the latest and greatest at this very moment for Quad-Core).
In any case, the reason I am buying one right now is because the screen on my 2012 is cracked and this seems like a very respectable update in every respect besides the CPU, which will still be an upgrade for me. And secondly Macbooks retain their value so well that the worst that could happen is I get a new computer for 8-9 months and then sell it for a few hundred dollars loss and get a skylake.
I got the refresh because
a) the CPU be at least 20% faster for statistical modelling compared to my base 2012 rMBP
b) the SSD is likely to give me a massive performance boost for working with large datasets
c) the GPU is much faster, which means I can enjoy an occasional gaming session in my spare time
Of course I would be happy to get Skylake, but the reality is that its not released yet and from what we know about Apple's release cycle, is unlikely to find its way into MacBook until net year. I suppose next spring or so we will see a chassis redesign inspired by the 12" MacBook. But its unlikely to happen this year. Its worth for me to get a new computer that will allow me to be more productive now instead of waiting a year.
This this this. And the GPU is going to significantly improve performance in Adobe CC. If you work with big data and Adobe CC (which almost always means you work with big data), this refresh is a no-brainer if you were waiting to upgrade. You are going to get the vast majority of performance gains in this refresh as you will with the Skylake refresh if you are on Adobe CC because they are dependent on GPU and SSD more than nay CPU gains that Skylake might bring.
The most important feature of Skylake for most professionals is the multi 4K monitor support, which we don't even KNOW will be supported by Apple because Apple doesn't even support four NORMAL monitors at the moment, and not for hardware reasons.
And in less than 6 months comes the real deal. This refresh is an iPad 3. The only reason this model exists is to get force touch apps out there for the skylake model.
You care ALOT what other people do.
'Months' being most likely early next year. For most people and most tasks the GPU is the bottleneck not Haswell processors (which are the latest and greatest at this very moment for Quad-Core).
In any case, the reason I am buying one right now is because the screen on my 2012 is cracked and this seems like a very respectable update in every respect besides the CPU, which will still be an upgrade for me. And secondly Macbooks retain their value so well that the worst that could happen is I get a new computer for 8-9 months and then sell it for a few hundred dollars loss and get a skylake.
Fair enough.
Mine is a 2008 MBP, also with a cracked screen (my fault I dropped it), cracked and semi functional track pad, semi functional super drive, swollen battery and failing old 7200rpm HD. After waiting this long, for me, a few months seems a no brainer. If it doesn't die altogether and I get stuck in the 'need now' category I'm hoping my next MBP will be 6th gen powered and all the new tech that it brings along.
How many months? It could easily be a year, give or take a couple of months, before Apple does another update.
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I hope you're right, but Intel's recent track record is not encouraging.
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It's not critical analysis, it's a guess, pure and simple. I hope it's right, but it's still a guess.
I'm thinking skip mac. The new HW is a joke, and the prices are an insult.
dGPU from 2012, old CPU, old design, meager battery life increase, same old screen, admittedly fast i/o but tied to tiny storage capacity.
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Just buy a refurb, duh.
dGPU from 2012, old CPU, old design, meager battery life increase, same old screen, admittedly fast i/o but tied to tiny storage capacity.
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Just buy a refurb, duh.
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Did I miss something, how is the brand new dGPU from 2012? Did it time travel?
Its identical to HD 7770, which has been released in 2012.
so i guess , since i was planning a new mac 1st timer, i am also willing to wait ;D
waited for so long i guess i can wait this much as well : )
i just wonder are we gonna see the new design this fall in their keynote ?
this update seemed to me from the business side as a way to get rid of all the macs they produced but perhaps didnt sell
like the cars you wish to sell but no1s buying so you add something on the car rims, spoiler etc , em i wrong ;D possible ?
if its true like some of you saying and you also bring forth the links to back it up, skylake is ready for the end of this year,
Sincerely
waited for so long i guess i can wait this much as well : )
i just wonder are we gonna see the new design this fall in their keynote ?
this update seemed to me from the business side as a way to get rid of all the macs they produced but perhaps didnt sell
like the cars you wish to sell but no1s buying so you add something on the car rims, spoiler etc , em i wrong ;D possible ?
if its true like some of you saying and you also bring forth the links to back it up, skylake is ready for the end of this year,
Sincerely
Huh? Although it wasn't updated by a lot, it still is a damn good computer. Less bang for the bucks compared to the future skylake computer, but still a lot of bang for the bucks!
Damtoft is just justifying why he/she isn't buying one. It makes him/her feel better to scream from the mountain tops about it
He makes a good point. If you need one today last year's is good, can be had cheap (old stock or refurb).
If you care about dGPU the refresh will be a disappointment. Save yourself $700-800 and get the old one.
Sorry, but this doesn't make any sense. If he cares about dGPU, then he definitely should get the new one. The GPU in the refresh in better in every regard.
I agree. I am ok with paying a higher price for a premium laptop. But the SSD upgrade price feels like they are just squeezing money out of you at huge margins for themselves.
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If it's your first Mac, I would go ahead and buy it. Say it gets a complete design refresh next year. Then you'll be waiting again because "don't buy 1st gen Apple products". The refurb store is also a great choice.
A mid-2014 15" MacBook Pro with the 750m GPU will run dual 4K displays at 60Hz in addition to internal display, but the fan kicks on audibly as soon as you plug in the 2nd 4K monitor. Perhaps the current M370X will be able to better handle all this pixels without causing the fans to ramp up, who knows?