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Skylake Mac Notebooks May See Staggered Launch in 2016, Led by MacBook and 13" MacBook Pro
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"They refreshed the 13 inch MacBook Pro in early 2015 and the 15 inch later on, therefore they'll do that again this year."
No… not necessarily. The only reason they did it that way last year was because Intel had released all the Broadwell processors appropriate for the 12 inch MacBook, the MacBook Airs, and the 13 inch MacBook Pro. They DID NOT release the quad-core Broadwell chips appropriate for the 15 inch until after they had refreshed it. And they still never included Broadwell in the 15 inch likely because they had waited long enough and figured there was no point due to the approaching Skylake release, so at THAT point, they just stuck with Haswell.
They did things the way they did last year because they didn't have a choice. Intel messed them up with all the delays. This year, however, they WILL have the choice, because all the Skylake processors that are appropriate for their MacBook Pro line are out.
Now, they COULD do it again. They COULD just arbitrarily decide to hold one of them back. However, using last year's example to predict what'll happen this year is just silly, due to the circumstances last year which are no longer present this time around.
No… not necessarily. The only reason they did it that way last year was because Intel had released all the Broadwell processors appropriate for the 12 inch MacBook, the MacBook Airs, and the 13 inch MacBook Pro. They DID NOT release the quad-core Broadwell chips appropriate for the 15 inch until after they had refreshed it. And they still never included Broadwell in the 15 inch likely because they had waited long enough and figured there was no point due to the approaching Skylake release, so at THAT point, they just stuck with Haswell.
They did things the way they did last year because they didn't have a choice. Intel messed them up with all the delays. This year, however, they WILL have the choice, because all the Skylake processors that are appropriate for their MacBook Pro line are out.
Now, they COULD do it again. They COULD just arbitrarily decide to hold one of them back. However, using last year's example to predict what'll happen this year is just silly, due to the circumstances last year which are no longer present this time around.
Don't most places that have those stations (e.g. airports) also have AC plugs? Just use an AC adapter + USB-C cable if you're paranoid instead of the USB charging station. I know for iOS devices there have been "charging only" dumb cables (I've got one for a charging adapter I bought for example). I can plug it into a USB charging port and it can't do any data, just power.
My body and wallet are ready for the 15-inch MacBook Pro with mobile Xeon chips. All I could really ask for besides those two is a plethora of Thunderbolt 3 ports, a P3 display, faster SSD, ECC RAM for those Xeon CPUs, and stronger AMD GPUs because just one in an iMac can drive two 5k displays, a recent one should be able to do those two 5k displays and the built in 2880 x 1800 Retina Display. I'm over wanting a built-in 4k display and would be okay if it wasn't as thin as a MacBook but would still very much not be in opposition if it were (granted it still had at the very least the same all day battery life).
They CAN, but they won't. And certainly NOT with a quad CPU.
Ain't no way Apple is going to lose a single sale of a MBP, iMac, or Mac Pro, to a quad core mini, ever again.
$$$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Customer's Wants
For something i would plug in once or twice a day, everyday, gauranteed (charging), I don't want to even think about it. Is that a data cable or a charging only cable? Is this my original power brick or is this from somewhere else? Should I be worried about this borrowed charger or this public charger? These are not questions that should be considered when it is soooooo simple to just make it a total nonissue by including a dedicated charging port. Easy peasy, and it would use almost no extra space. (All the charging circuits are obviously still in the rMB just like any other notebook, regardless of how it is charged).
I can understand getting rid of or combining ports that aren't used frequently, that are becoming obsolete, or that require too much internal space. However a charging port is none of those things - its used everyday many times a day, unless there is an energy breakthrough its not obsolete by any means, and it uses very minimal amount of space.
I can't imagine Apple delays the 15" MBP update. The hardware is already outdated.
However it would be interesting to see if sales of the 15"MBP are have been going down. If the sales are stable then it's entirely possible that apple does their marketing driven staggered launches again this year. That would suck because it could mean that the next CPU update is coming soon after. Not that it really matters but still......
However it would be interesting to see if sales of the 15"MBP are have been going down. If the sales are stable then it's entirely possible that apple does their marketing driven staggered launches again this year. That would suck because it could mean that the next CPU update is coming soon after. Not that it really matters but still......
I'm sure I speak for many when I say:
"Third Quarter" for 15-inch MacBook Pro release is UNACCEPTABLE.
To hell with a staggered release. They need to update it NOW.
"Third Quarter" for 15-inch MacBook Pro release is UNACCEPTABLE.
To hell with a staggered release. They need to update it NOW.
Why do that, when Apple can FORCE anyone needing a quad core, to pay more for the 15" MBP.
Look to the history of the mini, to learn all you need to know about Apple's forced upgrade approach. The quad core mini was a mistake in their mind, because it lost Apple sales of more expensive machines - Apple does not see it as the total success, that their customers saw it as.
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You ought to elaborate on that.
Part of why the 15" costs more is because a quad-core is more expensive, consumes more energy (needs a bigger battery), produces more heat (needs two fans). A quad-core also works best with more RAM, a faster GPU and in return a bigger screen. You can't escape physics.
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I am unhappy about it too. I guess i will wait and see which one will be released. If its a 13 inch skipping the 15, will make me go for surfacebook.
Hating on OS X is popular. He wants to be cool.
you might as well wait just a little bit longer. If you buy now then in 6 months there will be a huge redesign.
Do you not read the links?
It's never about being a few months earlier or later.
I am looking forward to upgrading my late 2013 rMBP but I am not a fan of the USB-C. I'm with you in wanting to keep a dedicated MagSafe2 connector and I am really hoping they keep USB & TB3 ports directly on the body rather than requiring a USB-C adapter.
Yes, I'm still holding on to a little nest egg to get a Mac Pro. I don't want to use third party displays, seeing all the trouble they have, and Apple still hasn't presented a stand alone retina resolution display yet. I don't want MacBook parts in a desktop I'll be using at high CPU/GPU temperatures.
True. I wouldn't be surprised if the MacBook replaces the MBA and eventually some convergence occurs with the MBP.
I continue to watch the refurb store for MacBook Pro 15". I really prefer the quad core and upgraded graphics. I will be watching closely at WWDC, as if there is an announcement that takes away too many ports, I'm in for the refurb. There maybe something to Skylake, but, to me, not at the sacrifice of ports.
I'm willing to live with 'older' tech, as my 2012 Mac Mini has been just fine. Once again, as I watched the threads pointing toward soldered RAM and the like, I knew I had to snag one while they were still available at regular price.
Now, as the Apple software yearly release possibly points at sooner than later. later obsolescence, I am just trying to future proof myself for just about 5 more years.
I'm willing to live with 'older' tech, as my 2012 Mac Mini has been just fine. Once again, as I watched the threads pointing toward soldered RAM and the like, I knew I had to snag one while they were still available at regular price.
Now, as the Apple software yearly release possibly points at sooner than later. later obsolescence, I am just trying to future proof myself for just about 5 more years.
I really wish people would stop wanting to hold on to USB Type-A. The more we do that, the slower the adoption of USB-C will be and thus we would still need USB-C to USB Type-A adapters to continue functioning with older tech. because there would be enough of a demand to keep producing those accessories. If we all anticipated USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 as a whole, both consumer and manufacturer, there would be no problem at all because eventually, everything will have to be upgraded, why not just make it convenient by timing these changes for everyone?
In 5 years when Apple is producing MacBooks with their own custom-designed and optimized ARM chips, "waiting for Intel" and along with it "made for Windows" will seem comical.
No quad in the 13" - 28W TDP - check what you will get - as soon as it's actually launched and not only announced.
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88392/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors#@Mobile
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88392/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors#@Mobile
Yep, same boat although I don't use it for work. I guess I can wait a few more months, I've waited 6 years. If Apple had put out 15" Broadwell MBPs I'd have been all over it. It could be Apple is waiting for 14nm GPUs for the 15" MBPs, that's the only reason I can think of them delaying or staggering the 15" release.
So the question is does anyone know when a viable laptop grade 14nm GPU is coming out (most likely from ATI)?
Oh, and please get rid of the prehistoric battery. It's amazing that it's lasted this long into the 21st century.
If any weirdos from 19th century want to call without being constantly connected to a charger...
Best of both worlds! /s