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Never before has Apple fostered, and carefully manipulated "leaks" about the next new model this soon.

Source?

You know its apple "leaking" information (what information?) about the next model?

They were the ones that leaked the "news" that Schiller is in the running for president of HP too right? :rolleyes:
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the iphone 4's glass supposed to be "incredibly strong" if so than why is just a little dust between the case and the glass causing it to shatter?.....this whole iphone 4 dibacle has turned into more of a specticle that anything else, I can only hope that apple will learn from there mistakes on this one and make the iphone 5 that much better....


"Incredibly strong" and brittle.

Just like Cast Iron is very strong but it is also very brittle. Glass just happens to be even more brittle. A scratch in class can easily grow to a full fledged crack.
Glass is cut by putting a scratch in it and then applying pressure when causes it to break at that point.
So you put a scratch in the phone back and preasure gets applied it will start cracking and once a crack starts is grows very quickly.

Remember strength and brittleness are 2 very different properties that do not related at all to one another.
 
Apple continues to be their own worst enemy.

Being a little OCD , I THOUGHT...this will never happen to me... WRONG!

Removed the case to check and was shocked to find splintered back glass. And I clean the phone by taking it out of its case every two weeks. .... Simply shocking!

The saving grace for me is at least its not my only phone.

(posting from my ever so nice Android phone)

I'm calling B.S. on your splintered iPhone 4 glass back. You sound like an Android troll to me. And seriously, besides those who work in the tech business, or simply has more money than they know what to do with, who carries two smartphones with them anyway.
 

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...hones_with_larger_smaller_screens_report.html

http://www.cultofmac.com/analyst-apple-plans-new-iphones-with-larger-and-smaller-displays/62171

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/arti...e_form_factor_the_real_key_to_shares_in_2010/

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/larger-and-smaller-iphone-screens-make-sense/8352

http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-maxi-and-iphone-nano-incoming-insists-analysts-sources-06106245/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/07/iphone-5-next-generation_n_754274.html

I'm calling B.S. on your splintered iPhone 4 glass back. You sound like an Android troll to me. And seriously, besides those who work in the tech business, or simply has more money than they know what to do with, who carries two smartphones with them anyway.
Sounds like jealousy...:eek:

Do you all know what is ironic about the whole situation? First off all have you ever looked at one of your old pre-iPhones? Or say seen someone with an HTC phone or Motorola? I have and they have scratches all over them.

Taking a page from the ringmaster himself... "they all do that"... :)
 
Sounds like jealousy...:eek:

Sounds like a liar to me. It never cease to amaze me though how many Android users go to forums and iPhone related blogposts on here or Engadget only to take jabs or cheap shots at the iPhone. It's like that jealous neighbor or something who laughs when the Mercedes has a flat tire. These people represent three types of people described below. None of which truly believe the Android device is the better phone. It's all about compensating and championing what you yourself chose to get. It's these people that are just begging for some attention.

1. Verizon customers who've longed for an iPhone but settled on a Droid, and pretend they didn't want an iPhone anyway. The same type believe every word that the press and bloggers preach about the exaggerated poor reception of AT&T or the slightest soft spot of the iPhone (antenna, glass).

2. Windows users who refused to give into the Apple way of life, and feel that anyone who does use Apple products only do so to buck the trend, or look trendy. They buy a droid as a statement against those people and because it most resembles a Windows computer.

3. The uber geek who loves to just hack, mod, or alter the Phone in the same ways that computer geeks dive into Linux. The same type balk at the controlled user experience that Apple puts on the iPhone.
 
This is where it gets f---ing ridiculous. What's next dropgate? Where Apple is supposed to held liable because some people drop their iPhones? If you mistreat your phone, get a whole bunch of pocket lint or sand in the case from your day at the beach, etc. Newsflash, it's your own damn fault.

How does glass break after it gets scratched? Because it gets overly stressed. The same way glass breaks when it is not scratched. Sure, you can get a nice clean line cut in glass if you score it all the way across, but it still has to be flexed to be broken. Ultimately, glass breakage is an end user problem.

And what gets me is that some people are dumb enough to believe that somehow the iPhone should be both as rugged as a plastic travel cup, and as elegant as a wine glass. Um no. The iPhone is an elegant design made of materials that are not meant for dropping, scratching and general abuse. If you are the type that throws your phone around, get a cheap 10 key.
 
I am an Apple user. But if you read my signature you might be thinking I am trolling. However, I want to share my 5 cents in this. I held a G4 in my hand yesterday and I was wowed-out by its slick design, and the way the thing works. Heck, I am even prepared to "hold it differently" because thats not really an effort and possibly even blown out of proportion by the press.

However. I drop phones. In the car. In the office. Even on the pavement. And that is a very important reason why the iPhone is not for me. I held the G4 in my hand yesterday. And to me it does feel fragile. And I know it'll break within a month if it were mine. This is arguably my problem, because I am clumsy. But the smartphone I currently own has bounced on the pavement more than once...and it's still fine...

Having said that. Perhaps glassgate is another thing greedily exploited by anti-iPhone lobby, and also blown out of proportion. But the fact that glass can break, can't be changed. There might be some truth underneath the surface of this rumor.
 
Are you an adult? Could you please open your eyes and quit being such a fanboy!

Define fanboy.

And I'll quit posting when you get some education as to choice of words or start using a dictionary instead of being ignorant. Their instead of there, then instead of than.

If it's worth saying, then it's worth your time to ensure it can be understood.

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NT1440 - Tell that to all the teabaggers ("Remember, just because everyone is repeating the same thing, doesn't mean it's true. It could be, but having multiple people saying the same thing doesn't make it true.
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I am an Apple user. But if you read my signature you might be thinking I am trolling. However, I want to share my 5 cents in this. I held a G4 in my hand yesterday and I was wowed-out by its slick design, and the way the thing works. Heck, I am even prepared to "hold it differently" because thats not really an effort and possibly even blown out of proportion by the press.

However. I drop phones. In the car. In the office. Even on the pavement. And that is a very important reason why the iPhone is not for me. I held the G4 in my hand yesterday. And to me it does feel fragile. And I know it'll break within a month if it were mine. This is arguably my problem, because I am clumsy. But the smartphone I currently own has bounced on the pavement more than once...and it's still fine...

Having said that. Perhaps glassgate is another thing greedily exploited by anti-iPhone lobby, and also blown out of proportion. But the fact that glass can break, can't be changed. There might be some truth underneath the surface of this rumor.

That's why they provide cases for people like you. The thing is, an iPhone in a case still looks better than 95 percent of the other smartphones naked. Really I just don't get it. Why don't HTC or Motorola try to copy the elegance of an iPhone? That's the part they keep leaving out. They've copied virtually all other things, but why not seal the deal?
 
If this is for real, bring on the iPhone 5 already jeez.

Cause a third party cause scratches the phone? This has always been the case with cases that cover the entire rear of the phone, even on the 3GS. I've never had antenna issues and I always opt for no case
 
The issue is not simply scratches

Cause a third party cause scratches the phone? This has always been the case with cases that cover the entire rear of the phone, even on the 3GS. I've never had antenna issues and I always opt for no case

I think that the issue isn't the presence of a cosmetic scratch on the back.

I think that the issue is that with tempered or other engineered glass, a minor scratch can cause a major structural failure of the glass. The "cosmetic" scratch can cause the back to shatter (or crumble).

Here's a funny clip of a reporter trying to break a car window with a hammer (and failing). If, however, he'd lightly stroked the window with a diamond or saphhire ring, it might have crumbled into tiny pieces without even being hit.

So, go ahead and hit the back of the Iphone 4 with a hammer - no problem. Rub a tiny grain of sand against it, though, and you might have glass shards all over.
 
I'm calling B.S. on your splintered iPhone 4 glass back. You sound like an Android troll to me. And seriously, besides those who work in the tech business, or simply has more money than they know what to do with, who carries two smartphones with them anyway.

Hey, I carry both a 3G and a Droid X while I get around to canceling the ATT contract.
 
I realize some of the antenna issues are exaggerated to an extent since some other smartphones have a bit of the same issue, but I'm actually glad I skipped iPhone 4.

It's quickly turning into the Apple III of iPhones.

And you can bet iPhone 5 will be of a different design.
 
Even before the antenna/prox sensor issues, I remember when they introduced the iphone 4 immediately thinking "ok, it's made out of glass. Might want to skip this model".

Seriously, a cellphone made out of glass. I'll just put it down on my paper dining table in my house with cardboard walls and tissue-paper roof, and take a spin in my glass truck.

There are types of materials that certain products should (and shouldn't) be made out of. Very happy with my plastic 3GS. If the iphone 5 is made of glass I'm buying a droid.
 
Design flaw? What the hell? If your case scratches the device it should protect, then it's just one shltty case.

Why the hell would the iPhone engineers bother "investigating"? This is just a blogger desperate for attention.

It would make sense to investigate in order to warn customers not to buy certain "protection" cases, and to find if these cases leave any other traces, in case a customer comes with an iPhone broken by such a case and _swears_ none of these case has come anywhere near the phone.

this is being blown way out of proportion. does this issue actually exist? lol

I can imagine that this could happen. If you have a very hard case, like strong metal, that gets very close to the glass, and a bit of hard sand in between, and if you then press the case and the phone together hard, the whole force could be concentrated on the single point where the bit of sand is, so that would be very, very high pressure. On the other hand, I would say that is the fault of whoever designed the case, not whoever designed the phone. And it's probably good advice to any customer right now not to put a protective case onto an iPhone while they are at a sandy beach (assuming the problem is sand _while you put the case on_).


I'm not saying this is true, but if it is, Apple is definitely to blame. If you are making a phone made of glass, you should know this can happen, and therefore, warn consumers or alert case makers for them to take this into consideration.

Excuse me? You are saying Apple should send letters to all potential makers of cases, saying: "Dear manufacturer, if you consider making a protective case for iPhones, please design it so that it actually protects the iPhone and doesn't damage it. If you consider making a case for iPhones that is supposed to be bought just for the way it looks without offering any actual protection, then please design it so that it doesn't damage the iPhone either. "
 
Those are all literally the same rumor regurgitated through the media.

Remember, just because everyone is repeating the same thing, doesn't mean its true. It could be, but having multiple people saying the same thing doesn't make it true.

For an extreme case, look at this: http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t124061.html

New German minister has his name changed on Wikipedia by a prankster, a magazine writes an article about him copying the wrong name from Wikipedia, he complains to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia takes the magazine article as proof that the poor man can't even get his own name right. :eek:
 
This whole "thing" is patently absurd. First, we purchase an amazingly designed iPhone 4 - then we go crazy covering that very design with so many protective devices that may be causing way more issues than they prevent.

I put a screen protector on and an inexpensive carbon skin on the back - good to go !!
 
I went from the first iPhone, yes 4 gb, to the iPhone 4. No doubt that it is more fragile. Best phone out, but don't take it out on a construction site, I'd say.

I have mine in a fake otterbox defender. Much protection, much function, not a high price. Or get the real otterbox. Either way, you're good to go.
 
Those are all literally the same rumor regurgitated through the media.
I agree, however last time I simply posted one source, the fanboys then used the tactic "that publication or blog or.. is biased" ...blah...blah..blah.. so I posted a few.

Remember, just because everyone is repeating the same thing, doesn't mean its true. It could be, but having multiple people saying the same thing doesn't make it true.
Never said it was true. We all know this. Last time I checked the name of this forum is Mac Rumors...
 
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