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Thank god someone has sense. If anything no one should take his predictions with a grain of salt, but his insights is far more reputable then most other analyst, and offers a 'preview' of what's to come in price of uncertainty of accuracy.

However, I can't believe people would think anyone would trust this guy 100%, we have said he's trustable, but not 100% accurate. No one but apple knows.

And the most boring thing about all these arm chair analyst critics is that assuming they even know how to spell the term "analyst," most of them wouldn't know the difference between an 'industry' analyst and a 'financial' analyst. It's much more than merely gazing into a crystal ball, reading tech magazines, visiting trade shows or making an appointment at the Genius Bar - these analysts, though far from perfect, varying in quality of prediction (as you say, they don't work for Apple and only Apple knows), do their best to serve their own customers with information about Apple's future plans (which change sometimes even more than analysts' predictions).
 
I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.

As much as I hate to say it, I doubt they'll simply drop the price. It's a vary un-apple thing to do.

Having said that, I don't think they will keep it at all (I certainly hope they don't so that the retina price is forced down a bit).

I also really doubt they'd bother with a spec bump.
 
I actually kind of like this news. Sure it is the end of my beloved cMBP but atleast I have the last of its breed if this article turns out to be true. This way I wont feel compelled to upgrade. To me the MBA and rMBP are currently out of the question. My 13" i7 MBP with an SSD and 8GB of 1867mhz RAM actually makes this machines a viable option for light gaming (Starcraft 2, Diablo 3).

Where as I feel that a MBA of the same size lacks the CPU and faster RAM that is needed for some of these games. That and the video work that I do on Final Cut would be stipend by a slower CPU and RAM. I could have purchased a 15" rMBP but being a 13" user my whole life the 15" is too large. So I opted for a i7 13" with a TB monitor set to 720p HiDPI while dual monitored to my 720p Westinghouse TV. With my recent installation of an internal blu-ray drive, this setup is incredibly efficient as far as clutter and everything else goes. I hope the new retinas have more to offer than last year. I wouldn't expect to do much of any gaming on a retina model of my same MBP. The Intel HD 4000 is limited as it is, throwing a retina display into the equation is just pushing it.
 
As much as I hate to say it, I doubt they'll simply drop the price. It's a vary un-apple thing to do.

Having said that, I don't think they will keep it at all (I certainly hope they don't so that the retina price is forced down a bit).

I also really doubt they'd bother with a spec bump.

I think it is more likely that Apple simply lets the cMBP as it is, without dropping the price and updating the components. The intention is to push customers to buy other models, such as the rMBP and the MBA instead of the cMPB. Once the cMBP is no longer the best-selling model, it will be discontinued.
 
The cost of the cMBP for educational institutions dropped to $999 before discounts for large quantity purchases. We will be buying these computers for our staff this year due to 500 GB hard drives. If Airs had a 512 GB drive for the same price or just slightly higher, we would buy them instead. Once Apple can get costs down for SSDs, the cMBP will be gone completely. I wonder if the cMBP will be discontinued for all but educational institutions after WWDC... just like the unibody MacBooks.

Just to state a personal opinion, the mid-2012 cMBP is the best machine Apple makes, imho. I'm running one with 2 Crucial M4 512GB SSDs and it's pure awesomeness. Ethernet, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, FW800, SD card... Couldn't be better, really. I've got the high-res matte screen, too. Brilliant machine. Would be a real shame to sacrifice the upgradeability for a higher-res screen that genuinely means nothing to me. From my point-of-view, that's enough reason for Apple to maintain the cMBP. I'm not saying they will, but they should...
 
The dual mic input should have been present a while ago. It's a great feature.

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I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.

They let the iPod Classic linger. It doesn't even have the Lightning connector!
 
Are people happy with the retina macbooks? Tried some at the store. They had a fully spec. out 13 retina; it was sluggish and you could see ghosting. The retinas next to it felt the same..
 
The one thing I'm disappointed with my 27" iMac is the quality of the Facetime camera, not even in full HD!

Every Mac and 'i' product should by now have a Facetime camera that can do 1080.
 
My girlfriend just bought a rMBP, and I find I prefer the MBA's matte screen with more real estate over the rMBP. And of course since the insides are near identical they're both just as piss poor for gaming.

I'm assuming you're referring to the 13" rMBP? What games did you test? And were you expecting 100fps on the highest graphics settings?
 
You should write to Apple and/or Tim Cook complaining then. I just don't see Apple strategy going this way.

When I see Tim Cook speaking, he only talks about iOS devices. It is the bulk of profit for Apple, it's the reason why Apple is a giant now, and it seems like it's all Tim Cook cares about. The iPad is the computer of the future in Tim Cook's mind. So, the average user may well get an iPad for US$ 499 and leave the Macs to the professionals.

I don't agree with it, of course, but it's clearly where Apple is heading to.

Explain to me which current Mac model is geared towards professionals?
 
You got completely the wrong end of the stick here. The point is that Apple has been accused by cleverly appointed photographs to have copied Dieter Rams designs, when in reality there is not the slightest similarity.

Ok sorry. This old chestnut has been doing the rounds for years so why bring it up again now? I haven't seen any stories about this recently. Personally I think most product designers draw inspiration from their heroes or their contemporaries. I don't have a problem with it. As they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, although I doubt Apple's lawyers would agree with me lol.

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I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.

I seem to remember the white MB hung around for quite a while after the MBP was introduced. It doesn't make sense to kill the cMBP just yet while SSD prices are still so high. The cMBP is primarily aimed at college kids so they need to keep it competitively priced.
 
The dual mic input should have been present a while ago. It's a great feature.

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They let the iPod Classic linger. It doesn't even have the Lightning connector!

Huh. That is interesting. Maybe it'll get the boot in a year when they do away with the 4S (which will probably be their last thing besides the iPod Classic to be using the 30 pin connector.)
 
I think it is more likely that Apple simply lets the cMBP as it is, without dropping the price and updating the components. The intention is to push customers to buy other models, such as the rMBP and the MBA instead of the cMPB. Once the cMBP is no longer the best-selling model, it will be discontinued.

Agreed. If I had to bet, this is exactly how I think it will play out.
 
Just to state a personal opinion, the mid-2012 cMBP is the best machine Apple makes, imho. I'm running one with 2 Crucial M4 512GB SSDs and it's pure awesomeness. Ethernet, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, FW800, SD card... Couldn't be better, really. I've got the high-res matte screen, too. Brilliant machine. Would be a real shame to sacrifice the upgradeability for a higher-res screen that genuinely means nothing to me. From my point-of-view, that's enough reason for Apple to maintain the cMBP. I'm not saying they will, but they should...

Agreed!! Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. :)
 
Explain to me which current Mac model is geared towards professionals?

It depends on the professionals. The rMBPs are geared towards professionals. Just look at the ads and the keynote presentation which introduced those models. You may not like it, and a lot of people may not like it either, but that is not stopping Apple from doing it.

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Just to state a personal opinion, the mid-2012 cMBP is the best machine Apple makes, imho. I'm running one with 2 Crucial M4 512GB SSDs and it's pure awesomeness. Ethernet, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, FW800, SD card... Couldn't be better, really. I've got the high-res matte screen, too. Brilliant machine. Would be a real shame to sacrifice the upgradeability for a higher-res screen that genuinely means nothing to me. From my point-of-view, that's enough reason for Apple to maintain the cMBP. I'm not saying they will, but they should...

Apple could have more options. The rMBP is about trade-offs. You get a thinner and lighter laptop, and a gorgeous display, but you lose upgradeability and connections. I prefer the rMBP, but it's about personal taste. The philosophy Apple follows is not to compromise, but there is a lot of compromise in the rMBP. There always is.

I do have a 2008 13" white MacBook. The rMBP I am willing to buy is superior in all aspects to my machine. However, I still think my MacBook has the best keyboard ever, and, as much as I experience the keyboard in the other models (cMBP, rMBP, MBA), I found all of them to be much worse than mine. Personal taste? Definitely. But it's a trade-off.
 
that is really mean of you apple. by letting the cmbp die on its own. the reason a lot of people buy those is upgradeability, by not offering the new processor, of course people would tend to buy the faster newer processor found in the retina mbp. just kill it, or upgrade it. no need to keep it linger.

that is if kuo predictions come true.
 
I'm assuming you're referring to the 13" rMBP? What games did you test? And were you expecting 100fps on the highest graphics settings?

I am referring to the 13" one. I didn't test any, didn't bother. Diablo III was near unplayable on my air, I'm not naïve enough to expect some sort of miraculous FPS jump, but it would be nice if her $1600 Mac could keep up with my $550 Dell, for example.
 
Yep, i'm not buying a cMBP for the same price with hardware that's a year old.

Well that's what Apple wants you to think, they want you to get rMBP instead. Less people getting the cMBP because it has old hardware and same price = automagic nails on the coffin.

Just like what they're doing to the MacPro. One way to kill a product line .. slowly ;)

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I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.

Maybe it's either price drop OR spec bump. If Apple keeps the "old" Ivy Bridge on cMBP, I think it's possible for Apple to lower the price, maybe to $999 with the base 13" cMBP model. Only this time it's permanent, not just educational discount.

Apple did that a few times already with iPhone and iPad line, didn't it? The last year's model become cheaper and second tier and "low end" products while 13" rMBP with Haswell chips would be the new bad boy everyone wants so bad.
 
Great, improving the camera and the mic. Because even though I have 2 other devices that are much more convenient to video chat with (even though I never video chat to begin with), I desperately wanted Apple to slightly improve my ability to use a $1500 laptop for that purpose. I definitely don't want to see discrete graphics cards or eSata or god forbid a more fairly priced increase in memory or storage space, considering none of that is user replaceable anymore. Seems like Apple is doing a great job, edging out their professional user portion of the PC market. Its not like the professional users are the ones keeping the PC market afloat anyway. We all know its the Facebook crowd thats buying expensive computers these days.
 
Lots of things are pointing towards a release of new rMBPs and MBAs during WWDC this year. However, Intel is launching Haswell processors just now, and there are signs towards the release of these laptops, as well as signs that these laptops may get a later release.

Favoring the release of rMBPs:

  • The 15" rMBP was launched in June 2012, and the 13" rMBP was released in October 2012. These models got only a minor upgrade in February. It's about time they get a real update.
  • Analysts are pointing towards a release of these laptops during WWDC. Kuo, who has a pretty solid track record, and was right in every prediction I can remember, is pointing towards the release of rMBPs next week. And he must have some good information from the supply chain to make such statement.
  • Intel is just launching Haswell processors, which will be featured in the next generation rMBPs. An army of new laptops is being launched next week, and some will be substantially cheaper than the rMBP. Apple has to keep up with the competition, especially if it wants to keep justifying the high price of its models. And the sales of rMBPs are lagging, they need some boost.
  • NVIDIA has just launched the 700m series of its graphics cards. These graphics cards are supposed to be included in the 15" rMBP. So, there is no reason for Apple not to launch these laptops during WWDC.
  • There are reported shortages of rMBPs in the UK.
  • The announcement of Apple products is yet to be made this year, although we are in June. The only releases were slightly updated rMBPs and a new 16 GB iPod Touch model a few days ago.

Not favoring the release of rMBPs:

  • It is still unclear which Haswell processors are being launched this week. Only quad-core models have been announced so far. Perhaps the processors which are necessary for the refresh of the 13" rMBP are not released in June, and get a release later this year.
  • The rMBPs received an upgrade, although it was a minor one, in February, less than four months ago. The laptops are still tagged as "New" in the Apple online store.
  • WWDC is supposed to feature iOS and OS X. Apple may well release its new iRadio service, which may steal the show, and it wouldn't need the launch of rMBPs to make a splash.
  • There is still plenty of rMBPs available in the US. No shortages have been reported so far in the US for these models. Only MBAs and Mac Pros seem to be in short supply.
  • No leaks so far, and we're a week from the event.

Most of these arguments apply to the MBA as well. What do you think? Did I miss something?
 
Huh. That is interesting. Maybe it'll get the boot in a year when they do away with the 4S (which will probably be their last thing besides the iPod Classic to be using the 30 pin connector.)

Maybe, but then there won't be a high capacity iPod, so I don't know whether or not they'd boot it. What I really think they're going to boot is the iPod nano. It's basically a low-end iPod touch at this point, and they just released a low-end iPod touch and are working on an iPod watch.
 
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