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I ended up sending in feedback to apple.com/feedback, maybe enough reports can get them looking into it or at least a toggle to disable it like previous phones.
I had the same problem and did the same. I just hope that enough of us report it so they would do something about it.
 
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I can do that later. By the way the problem is not post processing, the RAW iPhone 13 Pro 1x camera images are just softer and blurrier than on previous phones.

The aggressive post processing that Apple applies tries to mitigate this softness, which is probably a compromise they reached between a faster and bigger lens, which is better in low light and noise but not in sharpness. Without this aggressive sharpening the photos would suck.

Check this comparison: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4601849

And this:
The aggressive sharpening does not explain the incredibly poor details retrieval of the iPhone 13 Pro (and regular 13) 1x camera
I could live with most of the problems but the red roses are insane! I will hate that.
 
This is an interesting thread. I’ve been doing side by side comparisons of my 13 Pro with my Pixel 4 and haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary. (I originally did so to tweak Photographic Styles to match the Pixel, but I think I actually prefer some version of Apple’s Standard preset.) I didn’t compare anything to an older iPhone, however.
 
I have an order for an iPhone 13 Pro with Apple at the moment (not due to be delivered for another few weeks) but reading this thread is making me have second thoughts. Is this a genuine issue and, if so, do you think Apple will fix it anytime soon?
 
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This is an interesting thread. I’ve been doing side by side comparisons of my 13 Pro with my Pixel 4 and haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary. (I originally did so to tweak Photographic Styles to match the Pixel, but I think I actually prefer some version of Apple’s Standard preset.) I didn’t compare anything to an older iPhone, however.
Any phone is fine to compare. Try shooting something with text and then look closely
 
I have an order for an iPhone 13 Pro with Apple at the moment (not due to be delivered for another few weeks) but reading this thread is making me have second thoughts. Is this a genuine issue and, if so, do you think Apple will fix it anytime soon?
At this moment no no one knows. I must decide if I'll return mine within a few hours. I can attest mine is not super good. I've seen many samples online which are similar, and many reports on reddit too. Are all like this? I think so but I can't be sure

Test of today:

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This is definitely being caused by some auto HDR software because after I take a photo I can see how it would look normally for a second and then the HDR applies itself automatically and the photos is ruined. There’s no way to turn it off or revert it. This is infuriating on my 13 pro max.
 
Surely this will be fixed in an update, especially if enough people raise the issue? I'll hang on a while before deciding whether to cancel my order for my iPhone 13 Pro.
 
I rarely shoot jpeg, the photo can’t be fully edited and you really have to watch your highlights, to not over expose them. Here are some edits using Lightroom mobile and ProRAW. Editing is fast for me because I created some presets and just load them into the photo and hit save. Sometimes I’ll adjust slightly but it doesn’t really take much time. What I did was shoot several raw photos with all three cameras and loaded those on my iMac And edited them there, applied the same settings in Lightroom on my desktop to my mobile app that way I can edit those raw photos using the preset made knowing that they will look really good on a computer monitor.
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I rarely shoot jpeg, the photo can’t be fully edited and you really have to watch your highlights, to not over expose them. Here are some edits using Lightroom mobile and ProRAW. Editing is fast for me because I created some presets and just load them into the photo and hit save. Sometimes I’ll adjust slightly but it doesn’t really take much time. What I did was shoot several raw photos with all three cameras and loaded those on my iMac And edited them there, applied the same settings in Lightroom on my desktop to my mobile app that way I can edit those raw photos using the preset made knowing that they will look really good on a computer monitor.
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Care to share your presets? How do they handle skin tones?
 
Care to share your presets? How do they handle skin tones?
I don’t mind sharing them at all. I’m just not sure how. I don’t think I can export them out of Lightroom mobile as a file. I’m not sure they’re shareable that way. If you know of a way, let me know.

as for skin tones, I usually pay attention to that pretty well and some of them are good for skin tones and some of them aren’t just depends on how I want the photo to look
 
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I don’t mind sharing them at all. I’m just not sure how. I don’t think I can export them out of Lightroom mobile as a file. I’m not sure they’re shareable that way. If you know of a way, let me know.

as for skin tones, I usually pay attention to that pretty well and some of them are good for skin tones and some of them aren’t just depends on how I want the photo to look

The only way to share is to save and export them from the desktop and then host them on Google drive or similar

I’m happy to host them if you message me and I’ll provide my email address.
 
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I don’t mind sharing them at all. I’m just not sure how. I don’t think I can export them out of Lightroom mobile as a file. I’m not sure they’re shareable that way. If you know of a way, let me know.

as for skin tones, I usually pay attention to that pretty well and some of them are good for skin tones and some of them aren’t just depends on how I want the photo to look
I would love these presets too. Your pics look great!
 
The only way to share is to save and export them from the desktop and then host them on Google drive or similar

I’m happy to host them if you message me and I’ll provide my email address.
They are all actually on my iPhone for Lightroom mobile. They aren’t desktop presets, only DNG mobile presets. I have made several by borrowing data from mNy that I have purchased. So if you think I can export those on my iPhone, I’ll do it.
 
Thanks.. I hope I can export them off my iPhone to share.
This is what an Adobe employee mentioned on their forums:

In the meantime, you can follow these steps to transfer custom presets from your mobile devices to your home/work computer.
  • Open an image in Edit mode, then apply a preset on the image. (The preset that you want to transfer).
  • Click on the “Share to” icon on the top right corner and choose the “Export As” option to export the image as a DNG file.

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  • Transfer the DNG file from the mobile device to another mobile device or computer. (You can send it via email or use any other means to transfer the file.)
  • Open the Lightroom app on the secondary mobile device and import the DNG file.
  • Open the DNG in “Edit” mode and click on the 3 dots icon on the top right corner, then choose to Create Preset.

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    "You have now successfully transferred the preset."
 
This makes interesting reading, I ended up returning my 13 after sending some photos to apple support in a chat. The rep I was chatting to said "that's not right" but that was all I got. He said if I wasn't happy, just return the phone "apple want our customers to be satisfied" and that they would investigate the issue, but not share the outcome.

I just noticed just a few days of receiving the phone. One of the first photos I took looked like it had an effect on it. Best description is a Photoshop median noise filter effect. Looked way worse that any of the photos from my X, which I'd upgraded from.

Moving from the X was impressed with night mode, so I'm left with a quandary. I don't know if I should go for a 12Pro over the 13Pro.
I'd like to have the option of taking ProRaw, mainly for occasions when I'd be taking photos to keep.
 

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This makes interesting reading, I ended up returning my 13 after sending some photos to apple support in a chat. The rep I was chatting to said "that's not right" but that was all I got. He said if I wasn't happy, just return the phone "apple want our customers to be satisfied" and that they would investigate the issue, but not share the outcome.

I just noticed just a few days of receiving the phone. One of the first photos I took looked like it had an effect on it. Best description is a Photoshop median noise filter effect. Looked way worse that any of the photos from my X, which I'd upgraded from.

Moving from the X was impressed with night mode, so I'm left with a quandary. I don't know if I should go for a 12Pro over the 13Pro.
I'd like to have the option of taking ProRaw, mainly for occasions when I'd be taking photos to keep.
I think that is not only software but also due to the new 1x optic and sensor size. It kind of has a worse quality in some istances. The aggressive post processing exacerbates it. I opened a thread here https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ftness-less-sharp-than-older-iphones.2315872/
 
The reason is really simple, physics.

In phtotography there's a simple rule. Usually on the same conditions if you use a wider aperture you have more light but less details.
Try to check even professional lenses, usually you have more sharpness around f/2 and more you go up more difficult and expensive become maintaining details. There are lenses of thousand of dollars that still are better at f/2 than f/1.4.

When I saw the presentation and I read f/1.5 I was I little surprised for this reason. f/1.5 is a really open and difficult aperture but I thought apple found a way.
But after I few days I'd say the answer here is pretty simple, like other people said simply f/1.5 is too much, the big aperture result in less details and to compensate there's a huge and strong default sharpness filter on everything.

HDR is not the problem, this time apple just ****ed up the project.
 
This is what an Adobe employee mentioned on their forums:

In the meantime, you can follow these steps to transfer custom presets from your mobile devices to your home/work computer.
  • Open an image in Edit mode, then apply a preset on the image. (The preset that you want to transfer).
  • Click on the “Share to” icon on the top right corner and choose the “Export As” option to export the image as a DNG file.

    1.jpg
    expand image
  • Transfer the DNG file from the mobile device to another mobile device or computer. (You can send it via email or use any other means to transfer the file.)
  • Open the Lightroom app on the secondary mobile device and import the DNG file.
  • Open the DNG in “Edit” mode and click on the 3 dots icon on the top right corner, then choose to Create Preset.

    2.jpg
    expand image

    "You have now successfully transferred the preset."
Ok thanks
 
The reason is really simple, physics.

In phtotography there's a simple rule. Usually on the same conditions if you use a wider aperture you have more light but less details.
Try to check even professional lenses, usually you have more sharpness around f/2 and more you go up more difficult and expensive become maintaining details. There are lenses of thousand of dollars that still are better at f/2 than f/1.4.

When I saw the presentation and I read f/1.5 I was I little surprised for this reason. f/1.5 is a really open and difficult aperture but I thought apple found a way.
But after I few days I'd say the answer here is pretty simple, like other people said simply f/1.5 is too much, the big aperture result in less details and to compensate there's a huge and strong default sharpness filter on everything.

HDR is not the problem, this time apple just ****ed up the project.
Do you believe this is something they can still fix? Over an update or something. Or do you think we will have to decide whether or not to switch back to an older model to get normal looking photos again?
 
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