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Solar panels are obviously not practical in mobile devices, for many reasons. The biggest and most obvious reason is that solar panels must sit in the sun to be of any use. That is the exact opposite of a good idea if that device happens to be a computer (or little computer, AKA mobile device). Computers can overheat. You better believe using your phone in the sun will cause it to overheat. Not to mention it'll give you quite the sun burn.

No, it's not going to work. Normal people wouldn't even go that far, and would probably just keep their phone in their pockets/purses when not using it, negating any benefit from having the solar panel.

It CAN work. Rig a baseball cap or sombrero with mini solar panels, a wire that connects to your iphone
and go for an hour jog in the sun. Voila, phone charged. The phone's form factor stays thin, and so does yours.
 
Did they? If so, then it is not big enough...

Example: Why am I still hungry after eating? Well, the meal is too damn small!

I’m going to counter with : They’d have to keep raising the battery size every year if they want to add more tech and eventually you’d have doubled the thickness and made the thing at least 50% heavier.

Eventually, you either have to have a less powerful computer in your pocket or less battery life.
 
If companies weren't obsessed with making everything as thin as possible, this wouldn't be an issue.
10 or 12 hours of battery seems like a lot already. When you plug in at night to recharge, don’t you still have 60-70% battery left?

And the “obsessed with thinness” meme was played out years ago. The iPhone has gotten thicker every year since the iPhone 6.
 
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There really is a very easy fix, the article even covered it.

Just make the phone thicker. There, problem solved.

There's no benefit to having a phone as thin as current iPhones anyway.

No. I don't think so. That is a very very backward thinking. Glad you guys are not the ones working with the tech giants.
 
Or just put a bigger, I mean BIGGER battery!
Since they don't give a damn about those of us who like smaller phones anyway!:mad:
I actually prefer a new battery technology, since lithium really can't put up with new technologies, even if you double today's iPhone batteries, the result would not be double the time but less than that. Plus, they degrade over time, which more brings back the topic.
 
Since they don't give a damn about those of us who like smaller phones anyway!:mad:

This is not true. Apple was the one of the only smart phone manufacturers offering a 4 inch smart phone for almost three years with the SE, when all other smart phone manufactures were offering 6 inch devices and above. The fact that Apple even offered an SE in the first place said milestones that they were listening to the consumer, especially if you watch the 2016 Keynote, Greg Joswiak stated that one of the reasons they brought SE form factor back was because it was requested from the consumer.

I Think it’s more reasonable to be thankful that they even offered the SE when they did from the time it was here. It’s not to say that Apple won’t bring back a smaller iPhone again in the future either.
 
Just gonna lay on the ground and point the phone to the sky to get a charge?

Solar panels on devices don’t need to be in direct sunlight to charge. You can leave it on your desk and the natural light coming in or lights in the room will charge it.

This is how my old Logitech solar keyboard worked and it was always fully charged.
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They are putting bigger batteries in their phones. What are you talking about?

They could make the phone thicker and use the same battery technology they use in the MacBooks. Where they have layers of battery built on top of each other and shaped so they fit into the smaller spaces.
 
1. Texture the back of the phone so it’s not so damn slippery
2. Rubberise the corners
3. use the volume saved from not needing a case to add a bigger battery

Done
Texture the back, rubberise the corners, use the volume saved?
Now how those the two things you mentioned save volume?
Really doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
 
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i never managed to run out of battery before going to bed on my X....

maybe people should live more and not hang on their phone all day...
 
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It's almost like adding higher resolution screens and more RAM while keeping battery capacity roughly the same eats up more juice.

In other news, I modified my car and it's now 50% faster than it used to be. I didn't increase the size of the fuel tank, but it seems to run out a lot quicker now. Any ideas?
 
Have you seen how many people carry their phones in their pockets or even back pockets? There's certainly HUGE benefit to having a thinner phone that fits better in the pocket without being as noticeable.

Apparently you never had a cellphone in the early '00s and had to deal with carrying around a brick in your pocket.

I have a bigger bulge in my pocket now with the iPhone XS Max than I did with my phones in the early 00’s. Phones were tiny in that period. I had the Nokia 8850, 8210, 8310. Samsung wise I was using the D600 and D900i. There was also the Motorola Razr.
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You plan on leaving your iPhone outside?

It wouldn’t be necessary to leave your phone outside.

My old Logitech solar keyboard charged from just the natural light coming into the room and the lights in the room itself. It was never in direct light and it never left the desk and it was always fully charged.
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Solar panels are obviously not practical in mobile devices, for many reasons. The biggest and most obvious reason is that solar panels must sit in the sun to be of any use. That is the exact opposite of a good idea if that device happens to be a computer (or little computer, AKA mobile device). Computers can overheat. You better believe using your phone in the sun will cause it to overheat. Not to mention it'll give you quite the sun burn.

No, it's not going to work. Normal people wouldn't even go that far, and would probably just keep their phone in their pockets/purses when not using it, negating any benefit from having the solar panel.

Solar panels on devices don’t need to be in direct sunlight. They work from natural light coming into the room and light sources in the room itself i.e. a lamp or the main room lighting.

I’ve replied to a few posts in here that my Logitech keyboard was solar powered and it never left the desk, was never in direct sunlight yet it was always fully charged.
 
There really is a very easy fix, the article even covered it.

Just make the phone thicker. There, problem solved.

There's no benefit to having a phone as thin as current iPhones anyway.
I think different because a thinner lighter phone is less visible when carrying it in a business suit.
And if you like to use a protective case around your phone, it can’t be thin enough.
Anyway, the XR is a very heavy and thick phone. I hope Apple will improve this over the next two generations.
 
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Smartphone Battery Life May Be on the Decline Because Lithium Ion Batteries Can't Keep Up With New Technology

Like 7nm CPUs with quad high efficiency cores?

Silly me, I thought the XR had the best battery life of all iPhones ever.
 
I may be old, but I don't get all the complaints about the battery...

As some one who have seen the original GameBoy in monochrome screen that required frequent replacement of the 4 AA batteries... I am absolutely impressed that this small tv screen device that plays video in HD and more powerful than my 2000 desktop... can last almost a day on a single charge!
 
You have a good point there, it makes sense. But from another pov, consider 2 exactly identical usecases, one with 6 hours and another with 12 hours. The latter is what people are asking for.

But aside from the rare case of a direct flight to the other side of the world, what is the use case where you would need 12 hours of consecutive use of a phone? And how many folks are flying to the other side of the world and not carrying at least two devices in their carryon bag?

Apple could make a lower power version of their A12 chip, couple it with a low resolution small OLED display, put that in a fatter phone and get to that type of battery life now. These are solvable technological challenges. But it would be worse device for most of their customers the vast majority of the time. And for the frequent international traveler, the answer is carry an iPad and an iPhone with you. I assume that is what the vast majority of Apple customers who are regularly buying $1,000 plane tickets are doing.
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I don't think the XR LCD actually brings any improvements in display quality. The 1400:1 contrast ratio, 326 ppi, P3 color gamut, 625 cd/m2 max brightness, and True Tone support are all the same as the iPhone 8. What's new in the XR LCD is tucking the backlight under the display and the rounded corners which enable a better device form factor, but doesn't improve the visual quality of the display itself. In exchange, Apple no longer uses dual-domain pixels in the XR which is likely why people have noticed more off-axis color shift and narrower viewing angles on the XR compared to the iPhone 8. 3D Touch support was also removed, but that doesn't impact visual quality. So the XR LCD seems to offer worse display quality than previous iPhones even if the XR as a whole is a better phone for the compromises made to the display.

Folks who are seeing the XR in person aren’t reporting any degradation in quality. But I’d miss 3D Touch. I guess next time I’m in an Apple store I will be able to compare the XR and the 8 side by side. I’m using an XS so won’t be in the market to buy one. But you may be right because of the off-axis color shift.
 
I don't use mine for long on any given day so it doesn't concern me, however, the longevity of a battery lifespan is what I am more concerned with.
 
I have a bigger bulge in my pocket now with the iPhone XS Max than I did with my phones in the early 00’s. Phones were tiny in that period. I had the Nokia 8850, 8210, 8310. Samsung wise I was using the D600 and D900i. There was also the Motorola Razr.
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It wouldn’t be necessary to leave your phone outside.

My old Logitech solar keyboard charged from just the natural light coming into the room and the lights in the room itself. It was never in direct light and it never left the desk and it was always fully charged.
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Solar panels on devices don’t need to be in direct sunlight. They work from natural light coming into the room and light sources in the room itself i.e. a lamp or the main room lighting.

I’ve replied to a few posts in here that my Logitech keyboard was solar powered and it never left the desk, was never in direct sunlight yet it was always fully charged.

The charge is a lot less from artificial light versus direct natural light and your Logitech keyboard used vastly less electricity than a current iPhone. The solar panels on the back (assuming no case) would be providing only minimal additional battery life.

Anyway, once Apple has sold a hundred million iPhones with wireless charge features and the Android manufactures have sold about the same, the wireless charge pads will be ubiquitous and you will be topping up throughout the day. Give it a year or two.
 
Has Samsung delivered *anything* with that battery technology. Or is it still a rumor? Do you have any insight into Apple's ongoing battery research and development - what they're working on, for example?

And what phone specs are being gimped?
As salty as you are Samsung is definitely developing graphene batteries while there's hardly anything anybody can say about Apple and battery tech related.
 
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