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Snow Leopard 10A402 Is Out

Krafty said:
Hm. For the people who can't get iStat or Menu Meters to work, what system are you using?

I plan to upgrade the HD in my Mac Mini '09, so I just thought "Hey, lets see how the beta runs on a 64-bit," but although MM and iS worked in Leopard it now wont open. I noticed on the top bar it says "32-bit," so I'm not sure. It's still working flawlessly on my Intel CD MacBook so maybe thats the problem for now.
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Eeeekkk... I just read on the ADC support forum that Mac minis will not be able to run SL in 64 bit mode, not even if you buy one with SL on it. 64 bit requires more then just a CPU that can process the kernel in 64 bit mode. Don't ask I am just the messenger...
 
vansouza said:
Eeeekkk... I just read on the ADC support forum that Mac minis will not be able to run SL in 64 bit mode, not even if you buy one with SL on it. 64 bit requires more then just a CPU that can process the kernel in 64 bit mode. Don't ask I am just the messenger...
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That's fine, I'm not that head over heels for 64-bit anyways. I bought the Mac to solve the problems I had with my MacBook and it did just that.
 
vansouza said:
Eeeekkk... I just read on the ADC support forum that Mac minis will not be able to run SL in 64 bit mode, not even if you buy one with SL on it. 64 bit requires more then just a CPU that can process the kernel in 64 bit mode. Don't ask I am just the messenger...
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Probably because the motherboard itself uses a 32bit chipset?

Did they say all Mac minis or the ones without nVidia chipset? I think Mac Minis before the nvidia chipset won't run it in 64bit mode.
 
Hi. I'd like to know is someone with an MX Revolution found a way (or a fix) to use it on 64-bits. With LCC 2.6 it only works on 32-bits and I don't know if Steermouse is supported.
 
LiMpA26 said:
Hi. I'd like to know is someone with an MX Revolution found a way (or a fix) to use it on 64-bits. With LCC 2.6 it only works on 32-bits and I don't know if Steermouse is supported.
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Your choice is either run SL in 32bit or use Steermouse.

32bit is super fast for me and I have no issue running it in 32bit since Little Snitch itself isn't 64bit. I am hoping 2.8 LLC and SL version of Little Snitch will come out soon.
 
Krafty said:
Find me a statement by Apple stating those UI changes are labeled as "Marble."
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iGuardian said:
Marble isn't a complete new UI, Marble is a version of Aqua. I didn't think that would be such a tough concept for people to grasp :rolleyes:
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Krafty said:
Cause it doesn't exist. Hard to grasp something thats made up by fans.
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japii said:
It's true that Marble doesn't exist according to Apple (at least not publicly), but most of us just use it as an easy way of referencing the UI changes they are making to their software, so don't get so bent out of shape when someone mentions it.
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iGuardian said:
It doesn't matter if Apple doesn't call it Marble, the fact of the matter is that Aqua is changing, it's been changing since 10.0, everyone knows that. If people want to call the new version of Aqua Marble, then so be it. Fine, it's not a new UI, and it's not officially recognized by apple, so what? People like to call it marble. I just don't see why people go "NO! APPLE DOESN'T CALL IT MARBLE SO NOBODY ELSE CAN CALL THE CHANGE IN AQUA MARBLE!! ZOMGG!!"

/rant
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Krafty said:
/care

I see, it just confuses me cause people refer to it as "HUD" and "Marble."
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Krafty,

People including myself refer to it as "Marble" because according to rumors that is the internal code name that Apple uses for the UI. You can see changes that we might argue are "Marble" or pieces of it in the newest builds of Snow Leopard.

Mention of code name "Marble":

https://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/25/marble-interface-to-be-revealed-in-next-snow-leopard-seed/

UI Changes in Snow Leopard can be seen below. Best evidence that Aqua will change is the image of the change to the Aqua slider bar that happened in the last build of Snow Leopard. I think it looks HOT! :D
 

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Why does everyone hate Aqua? I like it. If they got rid of it I would stop using my mac (of course, that's IF that marble thing looks anything like iTunes).

They have to keep Aqua and make marble just an addition.
 
MacFly123 said:
Best evidence that Aqua will change is the image of the change to the Aqua slider bar that happened in the last build of Snow Leopard. I think it looks HOT! :D
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The slider is (and always has been) in 10.5. It pulses when you have 'ambient light changes' ticked.
omg teh MARBLE is in 10.5!
 
Krafty,

People including myself refer to it as "Marble" because according to rumors that is the internal code name that Apple uses for the UI. You can see changes that we might argue are "Marble" or pieces of it in the newest builds of Snow Leopard.

Mention of code name "Marble":
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I should have saved you the trouble and told you it's water under my bridge now. However, I'm still keeping the rumor that 10.7 UI will be "Geometricalystic."
 
I just finished the update to 10A402 ... looks and runs pretty good.

One question, i heard on the Keynote that it will be possible to zoom into lets say open emails while being still in exposé mode. Does the zoom work already in this early version? If so - how do i zoom ?
 
pierreg82 said:
I just finished the update to 10A402 ... looks and runs pretty good.

One question, i heard on the Keynote that it will be possible to zoom into lets say open emails while being still in exposé mode. Does the zoom work already in this early version? If so - how do i zoom ?
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You mean quicklook? Just press space to make it full screen. It works in all type of Expose modes.
 
Sky Blue said:
The slider is (and always has been) in 10.5. It pulses when you have 'ambient light changes' ticked.
omg teh MARBLE is in 10.5!
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Mr. Wonderful said:
Wow. Watching as it pulses, I really don't like it.
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So where can I find a slider like that to do it?

That was reported by Apple Insider as a change with the new Dock menus.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/10/apple_tweaks_dock_menus_in_new_snow_leopard_beta.html

NathanCH said:
Why does everyone hate Aqua? I like it. If they got rid of it I would stop using my mac (of course, that's IF that marble thing looks anything like iTunes).

They have to keep Aqua and make marble just an addition.
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I love Aqua, but I think most people like me are ready for something new. Aqua is like 10 years old. The biggest thing that bugs me is that there are a bunch of different styles all mixed together now. Part Aqua, part dull iTunes, part iPhone-esque, part MobileMe-esque, part HUD, now part Black gloss with QuickTime X. I mean Apple is supposed to be kings of design and GUI yet they have this horrible hodge podge mess going on!? :( Make up your minds and be consistent Apple! And all this after professing to make Leopard's UI so consistent lol.
 
vansouza said:
You and me... I just have to let go... SL is still pretty darn fast. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, but I'm kinda thinking maybe I should downgrade my Mini back down to Leopard for now. I'm not using it for anything since I need to upgrade the RAM & HD badly first, and if SL not out by then I was going to stick to Leopard on it.

I really wish I could install iLeopard.
 
Krafty said:
Yeah, but I'm kinda thinking maybe I should downgrade my Mini back down to Leopard for now. I'm not using it for anything since I need to upgrade the RAM & HD badly first, and if SL not out by then I was going to stick to Leopard on it.

I really wish I could install iLeopard.
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What is iLeopard? If your have SL installed it will still run faster the 10.5!
 
vansouza said:
What is iLeopard? If your have SL installed it will still run faster the 10.5!
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I do, but there are a few annoying bugs. iLeopard is a theme that puts iTunes style on the UI (like it replaces the scrollbars with the ones you see in iTunes).
 
Krafty said:
In my previous post, I stated it must be a hardware issue. I have SL on my Late 2006 MacBook and 2009 Mac Mini, so no, I am not running them in leopard.

They work flawlessly on my 2006 MacBook, I already had them installed and they continued to work.

However, I installed them on Leopard on my Mini, and then decided to upgrade it to SL, and thats when they stopped working. When clicking on the preference, it says it has to reboot System Pref, and at the top bar is says "32-bit," but none of the iStat menus would activate, and Menu Meters froze when trying to activate.

One of the major differences between my two Macs is my MacBook is a Core Duo and the mini's a Core 2 Duo, so perhaps, it has something to do with the hardware.

Using the CPU monitor:
Left is the error I get on the mini
Right is the CPU monitor working on my MacBook. The fanspeed & HD activity is also present in the menubar.
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Which iStat do you have? iStat Menus or iStat Pro?
 
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