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So far I have found 64-bit versions of Transmission and Eclipse. Jolly good fun finding these new apps.
 
I find SL to be very snappy but my Laserjet 1020 isn't working. Pity. Hope they fix it!

Upgrade was a peace of cake and took about 30mins.
 
I find SL to be very snappy but my Laserjet 1020 isn't working. Pity. Hope they fix it!

I doubt it. It was the same with 10.5. Apple just suggests to buy a new printer. It was already a mess to have the Tiger drivers for my OfficeJet G85 work with 10.5, I really doubt it'll work with 10.6. On the other hand the printer (including scanner, fax etc.) works fine with Windows 7...
 
Mostly Ok for me

Just to let you all know that I have been running the GM build for about a week now. (I have also bought SL pack for those who are going to accuse me of piracy!)

All seems fine. It installed in about 35 mins on my unibody Macbook 2.4ghz.

Cyberduck didn't work - fixed with the 'nightly build' and my USB Huawei modem wouldn't work using their bundled software. However, if you use the connection in network connections it works fine. Cocktail doesn't work either

CS3 works absolutely fine, as does Office 2008 and VMware. Safari seems snappier and the Macbook used to take about 2 minutes to boot and 2 minutes to shutdown. Just timed it - 40 seconds to boot and only 25 seconds to shutdown!!!!

All in all, very impressed - evolution rather than revolution!

Now I have the actual disk I will install it on my iMac, wife's Macbook and my Mac Mini!

Cheers
 
I love the smell of burning silicon on release day morning

A big word of thanks to the brave ones, especially those who know better.

Those of you who are all upset about Apple not warning you about incompatibilities, should realize that this same scenario has been played out on the new OS release day, since the beginning of time (or at least since May 5, 1984 when OS 1.1 came out).

They don't call it the bleeding edge of technology for nothing.

George
 
I see both Microsoft Mouse 7 and Microsoft Office 2008 present on that wiki page, if that is confirmed to be true, then I will not be upgrading until there is a fix for these.

Office 2008 already works; the wiki is so far out of date it is pathetic. Install Office 2008, install SP1, SP2 + 12.2.1 update - everything works flawlessly. I've actually found there is an improvement in responsiveness and speed when using Word 2008.

VirtualBox works fine and is free. I don't understand why it doesn't get more publicity. Apple and others never mention it.

Because people have this fetish on this website that unless you shell out a mountain of money for something in must not of have been good quality. Virtualbox isn't the be all or end all when it comes to performance but if all you need is rudimentary virtualisation to run an application - its more than sufficient to carry out the job.

What a disappointment Parallels 3.0 is expected to stop working. I'll pass the OS upgrade on it. And I'll give Windows 7 a serious look when it's out, it might be time to jump ship, even though I would terribly miss iPhoto.

Why is it Apples fault if the company who wrote Parallels 3.0 refuses to release an update for a new version of Mac OS X?

I know Adobe won't support CS3 but I'm sayin' I hope it will work :p

Agreed; either it works or Apple make sure that their updates don't break compatibility.

Well... Apple would not release Snow Leopard to developers unless they paid $500-3500. If you didn't pay up, you couldn't report bugs in Snow Leopard, couldn't get documentation, couldn't discuss problems with anyone.
Seems really backwards to me. You'd think they want to have a beta so that developers could sort out the problems. Usually the OS and tools are inexpensive, but new OS coming out and they gouge.

Result is a buggy and relatively untested operating system. Looks at Walt Mossberg's review. Sounds like he himself reported a mess of bugs to Apple. They'll fix it was the response, but a reviewer reporting a mess of bugs right before release? Not well tested.

Mate, get a grip - the amount it costs for a developer subscription is chump change that any organisation worth its weight would be willing to hand over; the fact that individuals purchase software from vendors who put penny pinching ahead of serving their customers gives me an indicator to never purchase software off that company.

Hhm, this blows it for me.

Apple should consider giving people money for OS updates. Considered how much you have to spend to get all your applications running again...:mad:

Ah, how about this - it is the software vendors responsibility to make sure their applications are compatible with the latest version of the operating system they support.

The masses don't get a check to check for bugs. You have to pay up for Apple Developer vs. a free for all of reporting over on the Microsoft side.

I've been in the Beta and RC for 7. I'm also now in the Beta for Office 2010 for Home & Student.

More testers doesn't mean better code; the best example of that would be to read the bugzilla reports by 'ordinary people' on the many opensource projects to see how useless much of the feedback is. The developers would end up spending half their time trying to decode crap descriptions of problems than developing the OS itself.

I doubt it. It was the same with 10.5. Apple just suggests to buy a new printer. It was already a mess to have the Tiger drivers for my OfficeJet G85 work with 10.5, I really doubt it'll work with 10.6. On the other hand the printer (including scanner, fax etc.) works fine with Windows 7...

Ah, mate, it is the responsibility of the hardware company NOT Apple; I too am having problems with my printer but unlike YOU I realise the blame lays squarely on the shoulders of HP and not Apple.
 
It seems that people are working to make Parallels 3.0 SL compatible:
http://kb.parallels.com/en/6637

Cheers for that :)

I got my copy at the Apple Store in Kingston this morning. I picked up the £25 version and the rep 'reminded' me I would need Leopard to run the disk when I paid. Did a straight install over Tiger and everything went absolutely smoothly :cool: Took about 45 mins to install but no problems and everything going beautifully.
 
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Ah, mate, it is the responsibility of the hardware company NOT Apple; I too am having problems with my printer but unlike YOU I realise the blame lays squarely on the shoulders of HP and not Apple.
Your statement seems to only be true in Apples case. Everyone here complained about Vista and drivers and laid the blame on MS, yet with Snow Leopard it is all of a sudden the hardware makers fault. Did Apple change the driver model for all those that are running the 32bit kernel? If not there is no real reason why Leopard drivers shouldn't work with Snow Leopard when running a 32bit kernel.
 
I wonder ...

I am really surprised that apps can NOT work on the new update. I wonder will these programs eventually work or can I forget the interoperability forever? Who is taking the risk of upgrading and than finding out half of the s%$t doesn't work?
 
Your statement seems to only be true in Apples case. Everyone here complained about Vista and drivers and laid the blame on MS, yet with Snow Leopard it is all of a sudden the hardware makers fault. Did Apple change the driver model for all those that are running the 32bit kernel? If not there is no real reason why Leopard drivers shouldn't work with Snow Leopard when running a 32bit kernel.

You are right, but will not be able to bring you point across:
A large percentage of the people her are 'true believers'. Apple can do whatever they like, it is always somebody else to blame if things go wrong.

My big point of grief is that Apple only supports their own products for such minuscule timeframes. There will no be no more security updates for Tiger and if 10.7 comes about in 18-24 month time, Leopard will be unsupported. So you are forced to participate in this rat-race...
 
Does anyone know if quickbooks pro 2007 works? That's the only piece of software that I NEED to work at least till tax season. I might upgrade "quickbooks" if I must but the above websites say that crashes... i think I'll order Snow Leopard, but wait on the install..:confused:
 
You guys remember the Panther to Tiger transition or the Tiger to Leo transition? CRAZY times!!!!

I truly don't understand why ppl expect it to go 100% smoothly... even if it will go 90% smoothly they will still bitch about a perfectly optimized system that YES beats the hell out of Windows 7 performance wise.

Just give the devs some time so that they can come out with your favorite apps, support them and then experience the true power of Snow Leo. :)
 
What a disappointment Parallels 3.0 is expected to stop working. I'll pass the OS upgrade on it. And I'll give Windows 7 a serious look when it's out, it might be time to jump ship, even though I would terribly miss iPhoto.

You betcha. Good plan. Because Windows OS never has any software incompatibilities or problems. Smoothest running operating systems anywhere.

I cannot understand why the computer-buying public is pinning their hopes on Windows 7. Why on earth do they think that Windows 7 will be any less of a bloated, unstable, incompatible pig than any other version of Windows that has ever been released?

All that instead of a $50 upgrade to Parallels 4.0? What a joke. Who do you think you're kidding?
 
You betcha. Good plan. Because Windows OS never has any software incompatibilities or problems. Smoothest running operating systems anywhere.

I cannot understand why the computer-buying public is pinning their hopes on Windows 7. Why on earth do they think that Windows 7 will be any less of a bloated, unstable, incompatible pig than any other version of Windows that has ever been released?

All that instead of a $50 upgrade to Parallels 4.0? What a joke. Who do you think you're kidding?

All the programs I used in XP and Vista tranferred to W7 without any problem. Backward compatibility is Windows main strengths and the main reason why corporations stick to it. Can you imagine them using Macs where support was dropped after just a few years, where upgrading to new Os meant upgrading the software such as CS4 which means the total cost of ownership is even higher than Windows.
 
The masses don't get a check to check for bugs. You have to pay up for Apple Developer vs. a free for all of reporting over on the Microsoft side.

I've been in the Beta and RC for 7. I'm also now in the Beta for Office 2010 for Home & Student.

It's obvious Apple doesn't want the "masses" to do their beta testing.

Apple relies upon the developer of the software to test their own applications. If there is an incompatibility or bug, look at the developer of the software to find out what the reason is.

Possibly they didn't join the developer program and test against it, maybe they have a newer supported version, didn't get an update out in time or lastly they are deprecating the software.

... and before you jump in and say "Apple is on the list"... read above, those points can still apply to Apple.
 
Why is it Apples fault if the company who wrote Parallels 3.0 refuses to release an update for a new version of Mac OS X?

Why is it Parallels' (or Adobe's or HP's or....) problem that a minor OS update from Apple is incompatible with the previous version?


Agreed; either it works or Apple make sure that their updates don't break compatibility.

:confused: You agree that it's Apple's fault?


Ah, how about this - it is the software vendors responsibility to make sure their applications are compatible with the latest version of the operating system they support.

...and when the OS vendor updates the OS, it's the OS vendor's responsibility to not break things for no reason. (Some OS changes, such as driver framework shifts, will cause breakage - but that is done because the improvement is considered worth the pain.)


More testers doesn't mean better code;

Much of the Windows 7 Beta/RC testing was automatic - installation and program and system errors were uploaded to Microsoft. With a large base, statistical methods were used to recognize and prioritize problems.

How does testing the RC help improve the operating system?

You help just by using it. That's because the Windows 7 RC automatically reports crashes and bugs to Microsoft over the Internet. The information sent in automatic reporting is called "telemetry." Our engineers updated Windows 7 based on Beta test results. During the Release Candidate phase, they use the telemetry data to verify that the fixes and changes they made are working correctly.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/faq.aspx


Ah, mate, it is the responsibility of the hardware company NOT Apple; I too am having problems with my printer but unlike YOU I realise the blame lays squarely on the shoulders of HP and not Apple.

It's HP's fault that Apple shipped software that broke the printer?
 
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