My thoughts exactly. 9400M is found in most Macs today, yes, but I'm sure they are a minority when you look at the base of all Intel Macs, since they've been available for a relatively short time.
This isn't even a new feature. Leopard-equipped Unibody notebooks already utilize GPU for H.264 decoding.
9400M isn't the only one. There's a list of support models that you forgot to read.
From
here:
Kinda strange....
Or is it that a Mac Pro has enough horsepower over anyway, and that Apple felt the need to use the 9400M's power to help the MacBooks and Mac mini's playback 1080p content.... i.e. iTunes Store going 1080p shortly?
9400M is an example. There are many more supported models. Notebooks have less computing power, so it's easier to make a point when advertising performance boosts.
Am I the only one looking forward to a new GUI!?
Nope. Marble was a just a rumor. Not even some sort of leak or whatever.
Hmm... I thought two finger scrolling was a multi-touch gesture? My original MacBook (purchased May '06) supports two finger scrolling, what's so different about the touchpad than in later models?
Multi touch means more than 2 in this case. The later trackpads are glass and have a different controller chip that detects more fingers.
Will the 9600m's in the MBP's get the same improvements as the 9400m or do they already have it? I rarely run the 9400m so the improvements, while nice, won't be much help.
It says computers with that GPU, doesn't say you need to be using it.
Yes you will then get the other gestures
No you won't. No white MacBook is capable of multi touch gestures, Windows, Mac, Linux or otherwise.
Unfortunately apple decided not to enable multi-touch on older macbooks, even though they can.
No they can't. The hardware doesn't support more than 2 fingers. It's hardware limited not software. Linux doesn't give you more than 2 fingers either. Linux gives the old MacBook Pros more than 2 fingers, not plastic MacBook.
Does anyone know exactly which Macbooks will now support multi-touch gestures?
The unibody ones.
Will the white MacBooks be getting multi-touch?
No.
Multi-touch works fine on older macbooks under linux, apple just need to release the driver for it to work on osx.
Wrong. That is only true for older MacBook Pros, not MacBooks. 2 finger gestures works for any MacBook or MacBook Pro. But not multi touch.
Cyberduck isn't supported in SL. Unacceptable! I'm switching to Windows 7.
SL is using a newer version of Java, so blame Sun not Apple.
NOOB question, sorry: Will the 9600m GT do this GPU accelerated video decoding as well, or is it only the 9400m?
IDK.
This is true. The linux driver allows full multitouch gestures like pinch. The guy who worked on this is now working on the full OSX version. Don't let people tell you its all down to a chip....cause its really not.
The Linux driver you are talking about is for MacBook Pros! NOT MacBook (white, black, plastic). MacBook (plastic) NEVER supported more than 2 fingers hardware-wise, Linux, Window, Mac or otherwise.
Having just read this about QuickTime X needing the 9400M for the new features, I won't be upgrading. I was all set on Snow Leopard but damn, that is one lame ass decision made by Apple. My 8600M GT is perfectly capable of doing the same thing.
Remember when Apple was content on supporting it's hardware for years? Pssshhh...my ONE year old MBP isn't even enough now.
Apple never said "8600M doesn't work". They said the 9400M as an example, because it's newer and the 8600M had lots of bad press (failure rates) and is old hardware. Advertising new hardware is a better business strategy.
Yes, you are correct and this is NOT a new Snow Leopard feature. My late 2008 MacBook already does GPU assisted decode of H264 video. You can confirm this quite easily by playing a 1080p video on any unibody MacBook and note that it doesn't even require 25% of one CPU core to do the decoding. Meanwhile, my 2.66GHz Intel Mac Pro requires almost 100% of a CPU core to decode the same video. Thus, Apple's claim that this is a new Snow Leopard feature is quite dubious. Basically, all they are doing is officially acknowledging something that they had already implemented last year (under Leopard).
Wrong.
I remember people complaining it was difficult to click on a file without getting it to "Preview". Maybe that's why Apple decided not to include it - how annoying would it be that when you go to open a file that you can't click the middle of it?
As stated, Quick Look is the best feature in a while. I love how I don't need to open CS3, MS Office, or any other resource hogging app and still view a file. The Icon Preview is a good idea in thought, but Quick Look is the best way to go.
I ran SL beta for a few days. You can enlarge the icons a bit and it becomes easier.
Always thought that OSX's decoding performance was terrible... and for no reason really. Even if H.264 acceleration is only for the 9400M, why can't we have MPEG2 accelleration? Every ATI and Nvidia card around these days has hardware acceleration for MPEG1&2. I know it's not that big a deal anymore, so Apple development doesn't probably care... but it would be nice to see my Apple DVD player only take 10% CPU like it should when playing movies.
Hey and how come OpenCL isn't making more waves here?
My DVD player only uses like 5%. iBook, MacBook and MacBook Pro.
I hate people stating things they don't really now. Some say older MacBooks don't support 3 and 4 finger gestures because they don't have the "iPhone's multitouch chip" or because they have older hardware. There is proof that old MacBook can recognize gestures with more than 2 fingers, linux.
Not only that but read carefully to what Apple wrote on the upcoming features of Snow Leopard:
Source:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/enhancements-refinements.html#systempref
It is not saying "older MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models" or "All MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models". It is refering to
ALL Mac notebooks. Apple is very careful in what they state.
And don't give me that crap that only because they said "Multi-Touch trackpads" they don't mean older MacBooks. The idiot who said that a mouse is multi-touch is retarded. You don't touch buttons, you PRESS them for them to click. With 2-finger gestures (scrolling) you have to TOUCH using MULTIPLE fingers, meaning more than one.
Wrong. Linux supports multi touch for MacBook Pros! Not the plastic MacBooks. I never saw a single video with a MacBook on Linux using multi touch gestures (more than 2 fingers). You don't "now" (it's know which proves you have shoddy spelling) either. White MacBooks NEVER has, have or will support multi touch gestures, more than 2 fingers. Not in Linux, Mac, Windows or otherwise.
