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Snow Leopard will NOT run ONLY on Xeon/i7 processors, Apple would never be so stupid and that would be completely illogical.

All the current Apple machines will be able to run at least Mac OS X 10.6-10.9
 
I miss the old style Aqua like when the Public Beta was released back in 2000.
They've toned it down so much since then.. :(
I hope Snow Leopard's Marble Interface will look good enough to eat, as did Aqua.
 
i7 laptops are still several months off

The i7 is a nice speed bump, but I doubt we will see an i7 Macbook before Snow leopard ships. We are just starting to get pre-announcements about i7 laptops coming in May ( http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=110292 ).

The speed increase of Nehalem is nice, but the architecture is nearly identical instruction-wise to the Core2. I have an original 32bit Core-Duo macbook... which is likely not going to run Snow Leopard well...
 
Technically they're frameworks, not languages. Just nitpicking.

And for those who see us going further down the rabbit hole here, a framework is a series of "pre-packaged" programming functions (also known as APIs, libraries, or objects) that programmers can leverage to avoid re-inventing the wheel, as well as ensuring consistent behavior across different applications. Window manipulations, UI elements such as buttons, menus, scrollbars, etc, as well as functions such as audio or video playback, text editing, high-level network functions such as HTTP, etc. are all available in frameworks, saving developers the trouble of having to write their own code.

Carbon and Cocoa are two different frameworks that MacOS X supports - Carbon is very similar to MacOS 9's API, and was developed to provide a "bridge" for MacOS X to support apps originally written for MacOS 9 without requiring developers to rewriter their apps from scratch. Cocoa is a completely different beast, far more powerful by most accounts, but generally requires developers to completely rewrite their code if porting a legacy app; however, it is the recommended API for MacOS X development going forward - in fact, Apple has announced that there not be a 64-bit version of the Carbon framework, and no new API features will be added to Carbon.

In this case, Finder is one of the few (if any) remaining Carbon apps that ship with MacOS X, so while moving it to Cocoa seems like a primarily under-the-hood feature, it means that it's now a 64-bit application (there's no 64-bit UI support in Carbon) and can benefit from new framework enhancements that won't be added to Carbon.
 
No way. Look at the massive number of severe "showstopper" bugs in these developers release builds: the installer is screwy, the Finder is riddled with bugs, sleep doesn't work, machine support is highly limited. Development seems to be progressing at a snail's pace.

I'm sticking with October as the release timeframe.
But… but… there are SECRET INTERNAL BUILDS!

:p

The new Quicktime is quite minimal, but I don't really like it.

Imagine a window that is exactly the size of the video and has no borders or title bar or anything unless you put your mouse over it. The title bar is black and transparent, the red/yellow/green buttons look slightly larger than they should be.

When you hover over with your mouse, the on-screen controls show up like in fullscreen.
Very interesting…
 
Well remember the pro apps (Aperture, Final Cut Pro, Logic, Photoshop) are all going to be updated this year, and they you are going to need a Core i7 (and Snow Leopard) to run them anyway near their full potential.

So I would say that the Core i7 is going to be the minimum requirement for Snow Leopard in 12 months time.

I feel your frustration with apple but you are wrong. Apple likes to use old slower processors in all of their consumer products. Their ENTIRE line of consumer computers uses mobile processors!! They can't even place a core i7 into any of their computers. This subject has been brought up many times. Consumer macs are for looks and ease of use. Power uses need to go elsewhere or buy a powermac. This is apple's stance.
 
All the current Apple machines will be able to run at least Mac OS X 10.6-10.9

Are you able to see the future?
Can you tell me the winner of the next Super Bowl? I want to start betting now to make the big bux so I can afford a Mac.
 
this is awesome news. Can't wait for them to release it.

Looking forward to some screenshots to :apple:
 
Snow Leopard will be released during WWDC09. Unless it's going to be another 90 minutes of drivel about the iPhone.

At least builds are progressing, albeit rather slowly.
 
It's less than Quicklook. The window is quite literally just the video with rounded top corners to make it conform with the "window shape" of everything else.

I would just take a screenshot and post it, but I'm at work and my installation of the current seed of Snow Leopard is on my external harddrive at home. If no one posts a screenie before I get home, I'll certainly will.

any screenshot?

Do you really wish to get MR in trouble again ? The last time screenshots were shown people got a C&D from Apple legal and I can guarantee you with the introduction of a minimal version of QT-X introduced you will lose your ADC membership also. Unless you're one of the ones that download it illegally..Help us all out and do not do that ok ?

For any naysayers and before this gets out of hand. This is a new implementation of QT-X. There will be changes so relax and please wait and allow engineering to do their work ok ?:)
 
I just want to know if there's any change to:
the Dock.
Menubar.
Buttons.
Radio Buttons and so on.
(Basically the whole GUI)[Obviously I know it will have 'Marble' but a name is nothing to go by]

Any word on that?
 
The i7 is a nice speed bump, but I doubt we will see an i7 Macbook before Snow leopard ships. We are just starting to get pre-announcements about i7 laptops coming in May ( http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=110292 ).

The speed increase of Nehalem is nice, but the architecture is nearly identical instruction-wise to the Core2. I have an original 32bit Core-Duo macbook... which is likely not going to run Snow Leopard well...

I disagree. Snow Leopard delivers 5 key things in my mind:

1) Identified performance enhancements from lessons learned porting OS X to the iPhone. The Core-Duo will benefit.
2) The provision of API's to make it easier to leverage multiple cores in appications. The Core-Duo will benefit.
3) The final parts of a true 64-bit platform. Here, you get nothing :)
4) The unambiguous retirement of an aging framework (Carbon) (Core Duo will benefit)
5) Exchange Integration (Core Duo will benefit)
 
I just want to know if there's any change to:
the Dock.
Menubar.
Buttons.
Radio Buttons and so on.
(Basically the whole GUI)[Obviously I know it will have 'Marble' but a name is nothing to go by]

Any word on that?

Do we know Marble is really a new option? I may very well have missed something, but I thought it was pure speculation?
 
Snow Leopard will be released during WWDC09. Unless it's going to be another 90 minutes of drivel about the iPhone.

At least builds are progressing, albeit rather slowly.

I suspect 45 minutes of iPhone drivel, and 45 minutes of Snow Leopard goodness... hoping for a release at the same time... but it's just hoping....
 
Snow Leopard will NOT run ONLY on Xeon/i7 processors, Apple would never be so stupid and that would be completely illogical.

All the current Apple machines will be able to run at least Mac OS X 10.6-10.9

I have doubts about the 10.9 part. First off, I haven't even heard about anything past 10.6. As far as I know, 10.6 might be the last "10" Mac OS version and the next major upgrade will be Mac OS 11. Plus, even if Apple DOES go to 10.9, by the time that's out, the first Core 2 Duo Macs will probably be over a decade old at the rate Apple's releasing upgrades. But hey, I might be dead wrong. Who knows?
 
Do we know Marble is really a new option? I may very well have missed something, but I thought it was pure speculation?

I know this is most probably fake, but I found this not long ago:
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