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Just thought ill share a list i made in my head. dont know if there 100 % right, so please tell me if there not.

its kinda cool to see what apple still has to do. Snow Leopard is really only part 2 out of 3 in some ways. "Leopard being part 1"

Carbon Applications that need to be rewritten. OR mostly Carbon Applications that need to be updated. . . . .

iTunes
Soundtrack & Soundtrack Pro
Apple Remote Desktop
Compressor
Final Cut Pro Express & Final Cut Pro
Motion
Color
Batch Monitor
Apple Loops Utility
DVD Studios



Cocoa Applications that need to make the 64bit "leap"

Keynote
Numbers
Pages
Dashboard
GarageBand
iMovie
iPhoto
Logic Express & Logic Pro
MainStage
iWeb
DvD Player
Quicktime Broadcaster
Podcast Capture


also did i miss any Applications out ? ? ?

Since when is Logic a Cocoa app?
 
When I did use it for a couple of hours, I did not notice any difference at all. It is not that noticeable for typical user. Granted, I don't use 64bit apps.

10.6 allows 64-bit apps regardless of which kernel you run. Most people will never notice a difference between the two kernels, because the apps all still run in 64-bit.


64bit kernel will not boot without all extensions being 64bit, no exception.

You can still boot using the 64-bit kernel, it will just ignore all the 32-bit extensions. My Atheros-based Airport B/G/N card won't work for example when I'm using the 64-bit kernel. The kernel will still boot, I just don't have an Airport card installed when this happens.
 
I'm sorry if this has been discussed.

This update broke Flip4mac. Flip4mac error message: you need to have quicktime installed.

:(

Grab a .wmv video and Get Info, then choose QuickTime from the Open With pull down list, not the default WMV Player. Then click the Change All button to set it permanently.
 
I think you misunderstand what these components are. WebObjects is a Web Application Framework, like Struts or Catalyst or Ruby on Rails for their respective platforms. It has nothing to do with client side rendering. I don't even think there's a name for Apple's XML layout system for iTunes, but it's an in house thing for an in house purpose.

iTunes renders its pages using QuickTime.
 
10.6 allows 64-bit apps regardless of which kernel you run. Most people will never notice a difference between the two kernels, because the apps all still run in 64-bit.




You can still boot using the 64-bit kernel, it will just ignore all the 32-bit extensions. My Atheros-based Airport B/G/N card won't work for example when I'm using the 64-bit kernel. The kernel will still boot, I just don't have an Airport card installed when this happens.

Extensions != applications. They are like drivers in Windows world. When you have 64bit Windows, you can't use any 32bit drivers, you must have all 64bit drivers installed, there are no exceptions. 64 bit kernel can not run any modules that's 32bit. It has nothing to do with applications, OS manages the application and can run both 32bit and 64bit applications due to a clever way of emulating 32bit world for 32bit application.

Little Snitch has an extension (again a driver) that hooks to the kernel to do it's stuff, unfortunately the extension is 32bit, which means it can not be run in 64bit kernel. Same for LLC drivers for Logitech mouse.

Your airport card probably doesn't have a 64bit extension, so its ignored when booting 64bit kernel. But you can boot without an airport, you can't boot without a graphic card.
 
/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration

Full Name is com.apple.Boot.plist

instead of changing and possibly messing up your boot configuration you can just hold down the keys 6 and 4 when the computer starts, and it will boot the 64 bit kernel. Otherwise, hold 3 and 2 to go to 32 bit.
 
arch=x86_64 ?

/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration

Full Name is com.apple.Boot.plist

Thank you. .

were about do i add arch=x86_64 to make it boot the 64bit kernel ?


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</plist>

sorry it is a nob question. but just wana get it right. or my computer wont boot.
 
Thank you. .

were about do i add arch=x86_64 to make it boot the 64bit kernel ?


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</plist>

sorry it is a nob question. but just wana get it right. or my computer wont boot.

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
	<key>Kernel</key>
	<string>mach_kernel</string>
	<key>Kernel Flags</key>
	<string>arch=x86_64</string>
</dict>
</plist>

I'm 99% sure that is this way. I had no success because my video graphic extension is still 32-bit :(
 
Big Bug

If apple isn't going to sue us for talking about snow leopard, and developers are reading this forum, here is a huge bug that you guys should know about. It's reproducible too.

If you use boot camp to instal windows ( or even linux) and then you erase the installed operating system (windows/Linux) you will not be able to boot back into OS X. I've reproduced this bug several times. And it's only in 10.6.

It occurs with disk utility and the system starter preference pane. The way to make snow leopard work again is to hold option on start and select OS X (it's the only option). If you don't hold option you will boot into a black screen. It's really scary let me tell you. Thank God for Time Machine

Furthermore you will have to hold down the option key every time you boot unless you go into startup disk preference pane and reselect OS X.
 
If apple isn't going to sue us for talking about snow leopard, and developers are reading this forum, here is a huge bug that you guys should know about. It's reproducible too.

If you use boot camp to instal windows ( or even linux) and then you erase the installed operating system (windows/Linux) you will not be able to boot back into OS X. I've reproduced this bug several times. And it's only in 10.6.

It occurs with disk utility and the system starter preference pane. The way to make snow leopard work again is to hold option on start and select OS X (it's the only option). If you don't hold option you will boot into a black screen. It's really scary let me tell you. Thank God for Time Machine

Furthermore you will have to hold down the option key every time you boot unless you go into startup disk preference pane and reselect OS X.

LOL.... That is not a bug! all you need to do is change the start up disk in OSX! go to system prefs and startup disk and click on your mac OS X folder and wa la!

That happens with Leopard...... If you don't select it, the system still looks for that windows partition
 
LOL.... That is not a bug! all you need to do is change the start up disk in OSX! go to system prefs and startup disk and click on your mac OS X folder and wa la!

You were faster!

But yeah, if you erase the Windows partition while it's the preferred boot partition when you restart your computer you will end up stuck on a black screen.
Unless you press option to choose another device to boot, you will be stuck on this. :)
 
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
	<key>Kernel</key>
	<string>mach_kernel</string>
	<key>Kernel Flags</key>
	<string>arch=x86_64</string>
</dict>
</plist>

I'm 99% sure that is this way. I had no success because my video graphic extension is still 32-bit :(

thanks alot it work.
 
I am under NDA so I can't provide all the info. I don't honestly know all the details, just been told specifically about certain models.

Ah, from what it sounds like if one wants to have a 64bit Mac OS X, one has to have a completely 64bit machine; I know the GMA 950 MacBook model came with a 32bit chipset but has a Core 2 Duo; it'll be interesting to understand why they took the position but I guess they had to make a decision to either deploy EFI 64bit updates for those machines. Considering that even if these machines could run 64bit Mac OS X - the memory limitation due to the chipset would still remain.

I've had a look at both of my machines - hopefully it'll mean I can run 64bit Mac OS X.
 
they just need to hurry up with iTunes and iWork, and iLife going 64-bit

Why? What do you need iWork in 64bit for? You do 10GB spreadsheet or something?

iWork and iLife is on a yearly schedule in Jan, they almost always release in that month.

iTunes seem to be released every bimonthly for minor versions and no very consistent schedule for major versions. If you look at the whole history, which suggest they are developing iTunes constantly regardless of release schedule and they'll release it whenever they want to, in fact most of their major version release are within few months of the last minor update.
 
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