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It won't be as good as screeenflow. Apple will give you basic features and a good couple of special effects no one thought of. It is more than likely for people who aren't going to pay $100 for screenflow. it is probably meant for the average user who doesn't require too much. Why put quality 3rd party publishers out of business?

Apple has done it before with Mac OS 7.5 - Mac OS 9. Adding just more things to the OS that where already out there as 3rd party stuff.

Hugh
 
Im also a SnapzPro User

As other people have mentioned:
My dislikes concerning SnapzPro

Its scratch disk is also your OS boot disk!
I looked into changing and creating new users or home folders but alas it still uses the OS boot HD.

Anyone who does Video knows you never use your OS boot drive as the scratch disk.

I dont know why all other video editing programs allow you to choose your own scratch disk, apart from SnapzPro!

If Snow Leopard has something as powerful as SnapzPro Then I will gladly stop paying for Snapz. Aparantly their new version allows you to choose a different scratch disk but is a paid upgrade grrrr
 
Aparantly their new version allows you to choose a different scratch disk but is a paid upgrade grrrr
Yes, 2.1.4 does give you access to the cache folder, including making a symlink to another directory or drive -- but it's a free update for anyone using SPX2 w/ movies.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the new Apple capture records system audio as well?

Matt Slot / Bitwise Operator / Ambrosia Software, Inc.
 
I find this more than just a little curious. Thee are already fine third party programs that will do this. Why "step on toes" at all? Why not just leave things as they are? Sounds absolutely like something megalomaniac Microsoft would do. That concerns me somehow.:confused:

Rich :cool:
Microsoft? Nah, not anymore. They've been at gunpoint since the Netscape days. The stuff they included in Vista (mail, backup, sync, video/DVD editing etc) was super basic and you could read between the lines in their marketing speak how nervous they were about potential lawsuits. Here's a snippet taken from the page where they describe a function called Sync Center: "...please note that Sync Center does not replace third-party sync tools or functionality". They probably had tons of ideas for Sync Center, but they had to omit 9 out of 10 ideas in order to fly under the radar.

But even that wasn't enough, so in Windows 7 they're taking even more stuff out... doesn't even come with a mail client, and in some editions they're omitting the media player and the web browser as well. If they even dreamed of including something like the iLife suite with Windows, they'd be dragged into court in at least 50 countries.

If Apple were ever to claim a 25-50% share of the computer market, they'd be facing the same problems, and soon enough Macs would be shipping without iTunes, iLife, Mail, Safari, Time Machine, iChat etc.
 
Snapz Pro is a dinosaur that has been shown zero love by Ambrosia for years and is in no way worth its purchase price. I can see native capture functionality in Snow Leopard making Snapz Pro completely irrelevant.

As for Screenflow, on the other hand...no way. This is a fully-featured app with a great interface. I can't see Apple incorporating that amount of functionality into the OS.

Well, first off, I work for Ambrosia, so, I am first to admit that I do have biased opinions on the products Ambrosia Software makes. And I also admit, that I do agree with the statements above, that Snapz is a bit long in the tooth. And in it's current state there are other competitors software that can do things that Snapz currently can not. Which of course stands to reason as Snapz Pro X 2 was released on February 3rd of 2004!! So, people are complaining that products are finally catching up (and in some cases surpassing) the before undisputed champion in the field. So, yes, our award winning software of 5 years is finally showing it's age.

has been shown zero love by Ambrosia for years

To say that we haven't shown any love for it is completely false, just look how many updates in those 5 years you have seen come out for Ambrosia. We have had a handful of releases for the product this year alone!

If you mean we don't celebrate it's birthday with ponies and cake, then yes, we show no love for it. But, we continually update this product, we demonstrate it at Macworld and other events which also include advertisements in magazines and online ads.

We show it a fair amount of detail and concern, which can be seen in our updates and support we offer the customers, and the ones looking to still purchase a copy. It's no longer a secret that we have a new and better version of the product coming down the road. In truth we were hoping to have it out by now, but as we all know here Andrew Welch, the owner of the company and the developers do not cut corners, nor do they make anything less than the Ambrosia standard. The product(s) coming down the road are amazing in what they do. Trust me on that. They have a crew of developers working diligently, while at the same time devoting time to making sure Snapz Pro X 2 is still running at it's best. We show the love with updates to at least improve it's performance, fix issues, and make it work better with the new OS. I don't know what other love we can show, though, we might sacrifice a parrot on an alter if it means it.

So, you are completely right, the product that has been the industry standard since the release of Snapz Pro X 1 in 2001 has competitors, and the competitors are doing a damn fine job with theirs. But, realize that this product was 8-9 years of being ahead of the curve... So, you should be asking yourself "if Snapz was that good back then and lasted this long, how amazing is it's replacement going to be??"
 
Which of course stands to reason as Snapz Pro X 2 was released on February 3rd of 2004!!......To say that we haven't shown any love for it is completely false, just look how many updates in those 5 years you have seen come out for Ambrosia.

Well, I really don't want to argue with a developer about his product, but... ;)

I'm not sure how you can use the lame excuse that Snapz Pro has fallen behind its competitors simply because the last major version came out 5 years ago and then turn around and claim that you've been busy at work with frequent upgrades.

I personally don't think going from 2.0 to 2.14 in 5 years is anything to brag about...

And all of those updates have been 90% bug fixes and performance improvements. No major new functionality to speak of. That people would still spend $69 on this dusty old app is baffling, no matter how many dot-point-dots you put behind that 2. Just being honest here.

So, people are complaining that products are finally catching up (and in some cases surpassing) the before undisputed champion in the field. So, yes, our award winning software of 5 years is finally showing it's age.

Snapz Pro is only still in the game because of an inexplicable lack of competition over the years. Why this niche has been so unexploited on the Mac is a mystery to me. Fortunately we now have ScreenFlow, and TechSmith is working hard on Camtasia for Mac.

So, you should be asking yourself "if Snapz was that good back then and lasted this long, how amazing is it's replacement going to be??"

Wouldn't we all love to know? :)
 
Microsoft? Nah, not anymore. They've been at gunpoint since the Netscape days.

Ah geez, this old chestnut again? "The reason Microsoft software sucks is because the courts demand it." Puh-lease. :rolleyes:

The only ones that put Microsoft in a legal bind is Microsoft. They knew exactly what they were doing, and now they're paying the price. Weasels.

But the boobing from the Winbot Horde about Microsoft being "forced" to remove a bunch of functionality from the OS because of potential lawsuits is absurd. The reason they stripped so much from Vista is because they couldn't get it all working in time for release (which was already behind schedule). And even after stripping out all the half-baked stuff, they still ended up with a shamefully sloppy product.

No, if they're pulling stuff from Windows 7, it's for the sake of performance, not legalese. Oh, and for the ability to nickel and dime their customers to death. Fear not: if you want some of these features, you can always upgrade to the next higher version of Windows 7. Amazingly all these features "that they're scared to put in Windows because of the oppressive court systems" will magically appear in Windows 7 Ultimate Platinum Deluxe Professional Edition ($699 MSRP).
 
When did Apple said there would be "no new features"? Sure they said that features weren't the focus, but no one said there would be none. You can't put something in quotes if it's not quotable!
WWDC 2008.

(Can't remember where I got the picture from.)
 
I personally don't think going from 2.0 to 2.14 in 5 years is anything to brag about...

I believe that it would be something to brag about, stability in builds and offering a great many things requested by users. Would you have been happier to see a update for fixes daily?

And all of those updates have been 90% bug fixes and performance improvements. No major new functionality to speak of. That people would still spend $69 on this dusty old app is baffling, no matter how many dot-point-dots you put behind that 2. Just being honest here.

I appreciate the honesty. And it's funny how you only think that 10% is feature adds. I would put it higher than that. But, like I had agreed to, the product is long in the tooth, so should we add features to a product like this, or take the resources and create something even better and new? Now that we have competition we relish in the idea of some people offering us a challenge. We are always ready to pick up the gauntlet and climb to the top of the dog pile! So once we started developing some of the new ideas, it only seemed logically to wow people with something new, rather than pack it into an older product, or have a simple (possibly lack luster) update with these features.

Snapz Pro is only still in the game because of an inexplicable lack of competition over the years. Why this niche has been so unexploited on the Mac is a mystery to me.


I believe the word you used is not quite right..."inexplicable". Allow me to shed some light on a better perspective.

The reason there is a lack of competition is that Ambrosia's Andrew Welch is a gifted coder and employes equally amazing programmers that managed to figure out how to capture images and movies on the Mac platform while others were seemingly unable to do so. It might not be a mystery if you had tried to figure this out yourself, because believe me, it is not an easy thing to accomplish. The competition was not being held back by us and was free at anytime to release a competitive product. It is not a coincidence that they cropped up when Apple released the source code to let others know how to do what Snapz has been capable of for some time.
It's fortunate for them that Apple released the information to do so, who knows how long it would have taken for Ambrosia to gain some competition!;)
So, in short: these companies have released products similar to ours, while our programmers have already been working on the next ideas and innovations, which we hope to bring to the market when ready.
 
No, if they're pulling stuff from Windows 7, it's for the sake of performance, not legalese.
Right, they're putting the mail client, Movie Maker and Photo Gallery in a separate, downloadable package for the sake of "performance". Because they slow the system down so much. :rolleyes: And that's why they allow you to download them. :rolleyes::rolleyes: And they removed a whole bunch of functionality from the backup agent between XP and Vista because they didn't have time to implement stuff they had already implemented. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Fact: They're allowing the user to remove IE8 from Win7 due to recent antitrust charges by the EU. It was started by the makers of Opera, then Google and Mozilla joined, and now ECIS (Adobe, Corel, IBM, Nokia, Opera, Oracle, RealNetworks and Sun) are in it too. The EU may end up forcing MS not only to remove IE8, but force them to ship Win7 with rival browsers included.

Wiki said:
As with other Microsoft operating systems, Windows 7 is being studied by United States federal regulators who oversee the company's operations following the 2001 United States v. Microsoft settlement. According to status reports filed, the three-member panel began assessing prototypes of the new operating system in February 2008. Michael Gartenberg, an analyst at Jupiter Research said that, "[Microsoft's] challenge for Windows 7 will be how can they continue to add features that consumers will want that also don't run afoul of regulators."[44]

In Europe, Windows 7 may be required to ship with rival browsers including possibly Mozilla Firefox, or Google Chrome. The reason for this suspicion is on the inclusion of Internet Explorer which is seen as harming competition, as in the European Union Microsoft competition case.[45] However, Microsoft announced on the Engineering Windows 7 blog that users will be able to turn off more features than in Windows Vista including Internet Explorer.[42]
 
Fact: They're allowing the user to remove IE8 from Win7 due to recent antitrust charges by the EU.

Whoa, the courts are totally crippling Windows by allowing the user to remove Microsoft's crappy browser from their machines if the user so chooses. THE INJUSTICE OF IT ALL!!! :rolleyes:

Like I said, Microsoft made their bed, now they get to lie in it. The billions they've made through their weasel-esque business practices are hardly cause for your tears.

And if you think it's sheer market share that got them in this spot, you don't know your Microsoft history very well (and no, if OS X ever hits 25% marketshare, the courts would not force them to remove iLife - a ridiculous assertion to be sure).

The whole "Microsoft is only being punished for their success" cry is pure fantasy.
 
Snow Leopard 'Screen Recording' Feature Allows Desktop Video Recording

Question: Will the Snow L. program or with the 3rd party programs....Will it allow us to record our voices. Just like the tutorials on youtube?
Bear with me, I am not very tekkie.

OMG, I was just on the phone with Apple Care today asking if my iMac Leopard can do this very type of program. And they told me no. That I would have to look up a 3rd party company to see if they offer it.

I asked them if they could recommend anyone and they told me NO! That they didn't know of any. hmmmmm

But they did not mention one word of the new Snow Leopard. again hmmmm.

I am so glad that I check here. Thank you people. Thank you very much for being on top of things. I just love Apple product over you know who. lololol And the quality of the people who use them. Thank you soooo much for taking the time to share.
 
Snapz Pro still the best for me

I have been using Snapz Pro for many years to create video-based training. Yes, it's getting long in the tooth, but I still use it as my capture tool of choice when working with video and motion graphics apps.

I try everything that comes out and the new apps have some nice features (and I would love to get rid of the time spent processing the captures after they're done), but Snapz Pro is still the only one that creates movies that capture and run at the full 30 fps all the time. This is extremely important to me especially when needing to demonstrate how certain tools or situations can slow an app to a crawl and how to get around that. Where all the other apps will skip and drop frames, SP always shows them correctly.

Can’t wait to see what Ambrosia has got up their sleeves (hint, hint).
 
I hope the developers of Snapz Pro sue Apple for bundling OS X with this feature. Apple should at least give users the choice to completely remove it from the OS if they want to.
 
Apple Podcast Server in leopard has done Screen Recording, and I guess it is just apple bringing it to every one..

:)
 
so will their be screen recording with voice over in new snow leopard?

I have been reading through the posts and since I do education and deciding between adobe captivate/presenter etc etc- and I just bought a macbook pro- this was interesting news since I believe that based upon the other apple programs, it will be easy to use.

So far I've only heard rumors but can anyone point to something definite or possibly a descriptions of features or screen shots?

thx

DM
 
Microsoft? Nah, not anymore. They've been at gunpoint since the Netscape days. The stuff they included in Vista (mail, backup, sync, video/DVD editing etc) was super basic and you could read between the lines in their marketing speak how nervous they were about potential lawsuits. Here's a snippet taken from the page where they describe a function called Sync Center: "...please note that Sync Center does not replace third-party sync tools or functionality". They probably had tons of ideas for Sync Center, but they had to omit 9 out of 10 ideas in order to fly under the radar.

But even that wasn't enough, so in Windows 7 they're taking even more stuff out... doesn't even come with a mail client, and in some editions they're omitting the media player and the web browser as well. If they even dreamed of including something like the iLife suite with Windows, they'd be dragged into court in at least 50 countries.

If Apple were ever to claim a 25-50% share of the computer market, they'd be facing the same problems, and soon enough Macs would be shipping without iTunes, iLife, Mail, Safari, Time Machine, iChat etc.

Which I find to be a rather great relief because then I can get the stuff I want and won't have to waste space on 'GarageBand' or equally useless applications (to me).

An OS should only contain things necessary to itself upon install. Then the bloatware can have it's own package on the side to be installed later (for anyone who wishes to have it).

That would be the best and quickest way to save '6 Gb' of space, imho. Funny thing how the world works, MS can't include Internet Explorer but it's ok for Apple to include Safari? Shouldn't the 'do not include a browser' apply to all who manufactures an OS? :rolleyes:

Why? It's not like the user has to use it. You can still use Snapz.

Bloat, and what's more, waste of useful programming resources at Apple (those already limited since the appearance of the iphone). Functionality already exists for those who would want it.

Another funny thing, Apple adding superfluous things in software when they're removing features on the hardware 'because no-one using them anyway'... Well yes, please give me screencasting on the expense of an intelligent expansion port... :D
 
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