So... about that Macbook screen wash-out

ptsube said:
I've actually switched over to Jessica's second profile. I think this is about as good as it's going to get, unless Apple puts five geeks in a room with thousands of dollars of equipement and tells them to come up with the best profile they can make. But I'm not sure that would make a difference.
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It could be the late hour but somehow I LOL'ed at this.
How many geeks does it take to calibrate a screen?
 
CaptainCaveMann said:
Great you have a nice display now, but what about the size? If size didn't matter to you why didn't you just buy the Pro in the first place? Just curious...
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Actually the size did matter along with the weight and that is why I initially chose the MB. I could not accept the screen issue with the MB however and that is why I went with the MBP.

The perfect MAC note book for me would be the MB with the MBA screen :)

Gary
 
Apple addict said:
Actually the size did matter along with the weight and that is why I initially chose the MB. I could not accept the screen issue with the MB however and that is why I went with the MBP.

The perfect MAC note book for me would be the MB with the MBA screen :)

Gary
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100% AGREE! Mines going back tomorrow. I'll be back on the old Air until the new one comes out.
 
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NC MacGuy said:
Apple addict said:
Actually the size did matter along with the weight and that is why I initially chose the MB. I could not accept the screen issue with the MB however and that is why I went with the MBP.

The perfect MAC note book for me would be the MB with the MBA screen :)

Gary
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100% AGREE! Mines going back tomorrow. I'll be back on the old Air until the new one comes out.
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Normally I would try to stick it out but after spending the day yesterday messing with the screen I am very sad to say it's going back tomorrow. My biggest reservation is the laptop is amazing otherwise. I will be getting store credit towards an Air. I don't want the larger display of the pro. I'm sure Apple will quietly update the screens and my fear is if I keep this due to everything else being awesome, I'll be pissed when they do admit to the issue and fix. When the next rev comes out I'll sell the Air and go back to this otherwise amazing machine.

I'm bummed though for sure. That glass trackpad and the design was so easy to fall in love with. Back to the old powerbook until I get the air.
 
Today I went to an Apple dealer in Amsterdam to check out the new Macbooks. The two versions of the Macbook were available in the showroom to play around with. I noticed immediately that the screen of the 2.4ghz Macbook looked totally washed out, while the screen of the 2.0ghz version looked absolutely fine (although not as good as the macbook pro, but really fine). The difference was quite big, it was especially apparant with the leopard desktop background and white letters appeared too fuzzy. I asked an employee to explain this to me. He thought at first that a setting was wrong, but we checked it and the settings were exactly the same. He couldn't change the washed out look and didn't have an explanation. He agreed with me that the 2.4ghz screen looked quite terrible, but he hadn't heared anything from Apple or costumers before. We checked the screen version and the washed out one was 00009C8C, and the good one was a 00009C89, so apparently this doesn't say anything.

It seems to me Apple is having problems with the display quality of the Macbook because such a big difference can't be a normal deviation. That would also explain the different opinions about the screens of the new Macbooks. The employee actually discouraged me to buy a Macbook now, because he couldn't garantee a refund if my Macbook was also washed out, because, as he said, they relied on Apple's guidelines and hadn't heared about any production errors yet.
 
Okay so before I take this sucker back to Steve's boys, I took some pic's of the craptastic display. I've done everything possible to make it work but clearly anyone can see the the non-existent resolution in this dark scene. Both same file and brightness max.:
 

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I too have a 9c8c display and the video looks pretty good on it.

Was watching some HD animal podcasts and it looks pretty decent

dont notice any negative blacks viewing headon as bad as the pics posted up there though
 
I have the 9C89 (just checked because 2 people PM'd me asking) which is supposed to be the better one and it is still horrible. It has nothing to do with manufacturer, but Apple going cheap because they can.
 
MacJenn said:
I have the 9C89 (just checked because 2 people PM'd me asking) which is supposed to be the better one and it is still horrible. It has nothing to do with manufacturer, but Apple going cheap because they can.
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did u try any of the color profile floating around?

My panel doesn't look nearly as bad as the pic posted


edit* oh woops wrong display model sorry
 
TrunksGoku said:
I too have a 9c8c display and the video looks pretty good on it.

Was watching some HD animal podcasts and it looks pretty decent

dont notice any negative blacks viewing headon as bad as the pics posted up there though
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The pic's actually have very little neg. black at that angle. It's the reflective screen. What you can see is Tony Stark's face is almost the only light parts of that scene and there are a lot of other details there but they are dark and plain just not there.

I've got someone here who's got a glossy HP that's four years old and his display shows all the details but not as well as the Air - but you can see them.
 

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NC MacGuy said:
The pic's actually have very little neg. black at that angle. It's the reflective screen. What you can see is Tony Stark's face is almost the only light parts of that scene and there are a lot of other details there but they are dark and plain just not there.

I've got someone here who's got a glossy HP that's four years old and his display shows all the details but not as well as the Air - but you can see them.
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hmm i was watching an underwater scene with lots of dark color in the background but everything came out clear...

I'll test it with more vids if i can and try and post pics when i get home
 
NC MacGuy said:
Okay so before I take this sucker back to Steve's boys, I took some pic's of the craptastic display. I've done everything possible to make it work but clearly anyone can see the the non-existent resolution in this dark scene. Both same file and brightness max.:
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Similar to what I posted myself. Mine's going back tomorrow at lunch.
TrunksGoku said:
did u try any of the color profile floating around?

My panel doesn't look nearly as bad as the pic posted


edit* oh woops wrong display model sorry
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Sorry but a negative black issue won't be solved by any calibration profiles. The only thing we'll get from that perhaps are colors that are more true.
 
NC MacGuy said:
The pic's actually have very little neg. black at that angle. It's the reflective screen. What you can see is Tony Stark's face is almost the only light parts of that scene and there are a lot of other details there but they are dark and plain just not there.

I've got someone here who's got a glossy HP that's four years old and his display shows all the details but not as well as the Air - but you can see them.
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That is horrid. Mines is not that bad. If mines was like that, it would be going back as well! I am a big screen person as well (hence getting the pro led and air when they came out).

I dont have those white glares when viewing directly.
 
I'm pretty sure that the screens of the new Macbooks come in different qualities. I saw a Macbook today with a damn fine screen and one with a really bad one (see my earlier post). Behind the good Macbook was an Imac and on the table next to it stood a new Macbook pro and a Macbook Air and the difference in screen quality was only minor. The bad Macbook had a screen that was hardly better or even worse than the Whitebook. Isn't that weird??

A theorie: The one with the good screen was actually a 2.0ghz Macbook and I've noticed that almost everyone complaining has the 2.4ghz. Does this mean that... or doesn't it?? I surely hope not, because I want to buy a 2.4ghz Macbook soon.
 
daansum said:
I'm pretty sure that the screens of the new Macbooks come in different qualities. I saw a Macbook today with a damn fine screen and one with a really bad one (see my earlier post). Behind the good Macbook was an Imac and on the table next to it stood a new Macbook pro and a Macbook Air and the difference in screen quality was only minor. The bad Macbook had a screen that was hardly better or even worse than the Whitebook. Isn't that weird??

A theorie: The one with the good screen was actually a 2.0ghz Macbook and I've noticed that almost everyone complaining has the 2.4ghz. Does this mean that... or doesn't it?? I surely hope not, because I want to buy a 2.4ghz Macbook soon.
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My friends 2.0 new one sucks as bad as my new 2.4 one.
 
I'm expecting my 2.4 to come soon, I'm in the UK and used the online Apple Store.

If it is a PoS and I want to get rid of it, can I take it to a local Apple store for a refund instead of going through that awfully slow website?
 
mines a 2.4 and the screen is not bad. When i compare mines to the the Air, other than more viewing angles, it is about the same. The pro is much sharper and brighter.
 
daansum said:
Ok, bad theorie. But I want to know why some (or many) screens are that bad and some (or many) are quite good.
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This really isn't a good screen and from what I saw yesterday, I think all six at my local store are as bad. When comparing my MB to theirs, they were very similar. Only when comparing the same vid. scene on another computer - PC or Mac - do the deficiencies really become apparent.
 

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So apparently, the 9C89 screen is a LG-Philips 13.3" LCD Panel w/ LED Backlighting. It's the only one they make.

LG-Philips LP133WX2-TLC1

This is the crappy panel. I need someone to see if 9C8C has the same panel.

1. Open Terminal
2. Paste this

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

This will give you the exact panel model number.

Also, I am definitely returning this machine. I got it from my Campus Apple Store, but I don't want to pay the restocking fee. Any suggestions on how to avoid it would be most appreciated! :)
 
Yikes!

Somethings not right here. From those screenshots it appears you could not even what a DVD on this -which is just hard to believe.

I haven't gotten mine yet so I'm just going to wait and see. I also have an Air and as i'm pretty certain it's not going to be comparable, I do expect to at least be able to watch a DVD with discernible details.
 
sammy2066 said:
So apparently, the 9C89 screen is a LG-Philips 13.3" LCD Panel w/ LED Backlighting. It's the only one they make.

LG-Philips LP133WX2-TLC1

This is the crappy panel. I need someone to see if 9C8C has the same panel.

1. Open Terminal
2. Paste this

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

This will give you the exact panel model number.

Also, I am definitely returning this machine. I got it from my Campus Apple Store, but I don't want to pay the restocking fee. Any suggestions on how to avoid it would be most appreciated! :)
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P .00 6
B133EW04 V0 ?

AU Obtronics?
http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/products.php?sec=notebook&func=info&product_id=83&items_id=2
 
sammy2066 said:
So apparently, the 9C89 screen is a LG-Philips 13.3" LCD Panel w/ LED Backlighting. It's the only one they make.

LG-Philips LP133WX2-TLC1

This is the crappy panel. I need someone to see if 9C8C has the same panel.

1. Open Terminal
2. Paste this

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

This will give you the exact panel model number.

Also, I am definitely returning this machine. I got it from my Campus Apple Store, but I don't want to pay the restocking fee. Any suggestions on how to avoid it would be most appreciated! :)
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LP133WX2-TLC1
Color LCD

Whatever that is????
 
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