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I don't think it was over three years old - probably just over one year. It's still great, but most credit cards offer double the manufacturer's warranty for free and will replace if the repair cost is above a certain point. With VISA you can also extend your warranty beyond the free second year, for a total of four years and it's cheaper and less hassle than Applecare. Just FYI.

Appreciated !
 
I don't think it was over three years old - probably just over one year. It's still great, but most credit cards offer double the manufacturer's warranty for free and will replace if the repair cost is above a certain point. With VISA you can also extend your warranty beyond the free second year, for a total of four years and it's cheaper and less hassle than Applecare. Just FYI.

I want to clarify the extension is you still have to pay for the repair on this card and then they reimburse you later, a process that can take a few weeks. With AppleCare, it's the first purchase then no more paying.
 
any update on this? im taking my mbp ( got it in feb ) in this weekend b/c the isight stopped working, thinking of mentioning this and seeing what type of reaction i get. i stress my gpu alot from fcp to blu ray's in bootcamp. id hate to have a useless computer in a year or so. just seeing if anyone had any more thoughts or heard anything else about this.
 
nothing other than...

I did read where somebody official at Apple said their machines didn't have this problem but I don't believe that. The only solution when there is a problem is a motherboard replacement and Apple isn't going to do that unless your machine is fried. Without question I would get Applecare if you don't have it.
 
AMEX told me 4-6 weeks for reimbursement.

I've used the visa service on many occasions and I've always been reimbursed within ten days max, often a week. I also used the mastercard service once and it was slower and much less professional. Visa has always been fantastic and caused me to buy everything expensive with visa. Sure AppleCare is a one time payment, but it's not a no-hassle option and they don't cover batteries like visa, nor is there a stated no lemon policy.
 
I want to clarify the extension is you still have to pay for the repair on this card and then they reimburse you later, a process that can take a few weeks. With AppleCare, it's the first purchase then no more paying.

You don't have to pay for the repair with the card. You can pay any way you want, but it is a reimbursement deal, albeit a hassle free one.
 
Ok guys,

I have spent the last hour reading through this thread :p (Boss is on holiday!)

and so I ask a question:

1. Has Apple or Nvidia actually produced a official press release regarding the defective 8600M GT macbook pro specific cards?

My MBP, 50% of the time, when coming out of standby/disconnecting from EXT. monitor causes the screen to think its a confused rainbow, and forces me to do a reboot.

I have already been to the Apple Store once with the problem, and they did something, but the issue is still there. I want to know if its a GPU defect problem... so when I go this week I can tell them about an official press release, so they don't jerk me around.
 
Can I just check what people when when they describe a machine as 'fried'?

It suggests totally stop working, ie no functional display at all.

Or does it mean a display exhibiting serious enough symptoms? My machine isn't fried to the point where I can't use it, but does suffer from horrible screen break up when scrolling - particularly in things like the ITMS, or going over event previews in iPhoto.

And also suffers from nasty screen flicker when watching videos online, eg YouTube or the BBC's iPlayer.

Presumably these issues are serious enought to warrant a new board, if that was required?
 
When I demonstrated those issues at the genius bar, mine was sent off and came back with a new logic board (which includes a new graphics card).
 
So far the issue with my MacBook Pro hasn't got till the point of fried-omg-i-can't-turn-it-on stage. It's more of happening-enough-to-get-onto-your-nerves kind of issue.

Still trying to work out this issue with Apple techs though..
 
The closest thing we have to an official position is Steve Jobs telling me that they're fine.

I this is one of the most meaningless statements by Apple/Jobs/whoever, especially the "at this point" part which basically means that who knows what will happen in a week or two. We just know that today, at this point, things look 'fine'. Total BS. There's also no reason to believe that Apple's chips are any different from those used by HP and Dell and those companies have already acknowledged the defect.
 
Can I just check what people when when they describe a machine as 'fried'?

It suggests totally stop working, ie no functional display at all.

Or does it mean a display exhibiting serious enough symptoms? My machine isn't fried to the point where I can't use it, but does suffer from horrible screen break up when scrolling - particularly in things like the ITMS, or going over event previews in iPhoto.

And also suffers from nasty screen flicker when watching videos online, eg YouTube or the BBC's iPlayer.

Presumably these issues are serious enought to warrant a new board, if that was required?

Don't read too much into it. When I can't get done what I need to get done in the time I need to get it done, it's worthless. The machine might be technically fine but something slows it to a crawl or suddenly it doesn't like the RAM. Maybe the display is so bad it's hard to look at for more than 15 minutes or it wigs out now and then which requires a reboot, blowing away something I was working on...whatever. If it interferes with work, it goes in for warranty repair, end of story.
 
I play games a lot in Windows on my MBP, and if I don't set the fan speeds higher in OS X before I switch to Windows, I get frequent slow-downs within about 30 mins. This may be to do with the airport card, however, since it seems that it loses the connection after about 5 slowdowns (they usually last about 10 seconds each, and the WHOLE laptop seems to slow down, even audio gets deeper etc, as you would expect if you slowed it down in a program).


Could this be related to this GPU problem?


(I would take it apple for repairs, but it takes some time of gaming to get the result, so would be hard to demonstrate to them)
 
i have a 2.2Ghz MBP with 8600GT 128mb vram. I haven't found anything wrong with my baby. What are the symptoms of a defective card?

this is the first ive heard of this, so i dont know what the problem is (though strangely i must of seen the news on dailytech and then not have my brain twig on to fact i actually have a 8600 card in my own MBP! lol)

anyway, bout 4 weeks ago i had to send my mac in for repairs.... something in the video system was screwed up big time, whether it be the screen, GPU or connecting wires i do not know yet, but 2/3 of my screen was just solid grey.

i did ring up and ask for progress, and apparently thats been rectified, though they did not say how or what was wrong. im still waiting for it to come back to me though as they are waiting on a new KB back light system also.
 
No, that's exactly the one that died on me after 8 months of heavy heavy gaming usage. I'll be doing the same thing to my 512 on the motherboard they replaced it with and I just bought 3 year Applecare. Looks like I'll be getting a newer laptop for free sometime down the road.

seems like the best idea imo

manufacturers are gonna wanna band aid the problem to carry as much of their product outside of the warranty period as possible so that they need'nt deal with the problem.

if thats the case, then stressing the parts out to make them fail sooner, will get you a replacement or repair for free instead of being stuck with having to fork out for a completely new machine. (because lets face it, who is gonna repair a major component on a 3 year old + machine)
 
I play games a lot in Windows on my MBP, and if I don't set the fan speeds higher in OS X before I switch to Windows, I get frequent slow-downs within about 30 mins. This may be to do with the airport card, however, since it seems that it loses the connection after about 5 slowdowns (they usually last about 10 seconds each, and the WHOLE laptop seems to slow down, even audio gets deeper etc, as you would expect if you slowed it down in a program).


Could this be related to this GPU problem?


(I would take it apple for repairs, but it takes some time of gaming to get the result, so would be hard to demonstrate to them)

another little trick i use is taking out the battery, and just running on straight power. That helps it stay a lot cooler.
 
another little trick i use is taking out the battery, and just running on straight power. That helps it stay a lot cooler.

That is like having your Mac castrated.. :D What's the point of that anyway? You're better off getting a MacBook then..
 
Don't read too much into it. When I can't get done what I need to get done in the time I need to get it done, it's worthless. The machine might be technically fine but something slows it to a crawl or suddenly it doesn't like the RAM. Maybe the display is so bad it's hard to look at for more than 15 minutes or it wigs out now and then which requires a reboot, blowing away something I was working on...whatever. If it interferes with work, it goes in for warranty repair, end of story.

That's what I thought. It is getting really annoying now.

I'm up in London on Sep 6 - would be good if the new ones were out by then, as I'm hoping by then Apple will see it as potentially futile, and so best all round goodwill wise just to replace it with a new machine without the 8600.
 
Same

Same happened to me. Last Week

Black sreen. No ext. monitor reaction. X3100 in sys. profiler. No trick working.
Now MBP is getting new LogicBoard.

But after recent forum activity. Here over 300 post
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1478474&tstart=0
Over 300 post on apple.com

... this must be global. Before this, there weren´t so many reports. Not in this short period of time

Maybe all 8600s won´t die. But there is good change that many of them will.

Only thing i can say.... FRAK!
 
Well, I know that myself and several other early Penryn owners have had strange display problems. Mine now has a new logic board because of it..
 
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