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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?

curiously my computer seems to be running cooler when plugged in. Normally i'd see temps in the 56-60 range just doing normal things. But here i am now with a 49-50C computer doing the same things. Maybe its just me, or the computer was charging at the time of higher temps. oh wells.
 
Can anyone with this problem confirm that 10.5.5 fixes it? Has anyone seen this issue post install of 10.5.5?

Jeff
 
jeff_siler said:
Can anyone with this problem confirm that 10.5.5 fixes it? Has anyone seen this issue post install of 10.5.5?
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Once your GPU dies, I seriously doubt any software update is going to fix it. But the latest patch does seem to have fixed the display rippling problem some users were dealing with. Not sure if it also solved the 'not waking from sleep' problem as well.
 
It seems to have fixed it for me.... so far.

The consensus on the big thread on the Apple forums is that it has for most people, but I did see at least one post from someone saying it hadn't.

Our machine was suffering more from the white flashes you get in things like mousing over iPhoto events, or scrolling around the Finder or the ITMS, or watching flash video online, eg YouTube or the BBC iPlayer.

Since updating to 10.5.5, has been completely resolved - despite my best attempts to replicate it, eg running off the battery, putting to sleep and waking up etc.

I guess the interesting thing now would be to know if it has been truly fixed, or if its some backhanded tweak to eliminate the visible symptoms rather than fix an underlying hardware issue.
 
Is this issue also related to the current generation MBP screen stripes? If so I have found a way to replicate it. Unplug your MBP magsafe and lower the screen brightness to 6 bars off the top(this only works if you have the ambient sensor off). Reboot and there you have it, the striped screen. I somehow don't think it's related to the card though.
 
JavaWizKid said:
Is this issue also related to the current generation MBP screen stripes? If so I have found a way to replicate it. Unplug your MBP magsafe and lower the screen brightness to 6 bars off the top(this only works if you have the ambient sensor off). Reboot and there you have it, the striped screen. I somehow don't think it's related to the card though.
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Tried it. Didn't happen.
 
Are you sure the power is unplugged? The ambient light sensor is off (System Preferences -> Displays -> Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light changes), the screen brightness is 10 bars from the left and 6 bars from the right, and you restarted after all of these settings where applied?
 
JavaWizKid said:
Are you sure the power is unplugged? The ambient light sensor is off (System Preferences -> Displays -> Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light changes), the screen brightness is 10 bars from the left and 6 bars from the right, and you restarted after all of these settings where applied?
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Yes. Tried it 3 more times, didn't work.
 
Sweat Jesus save me

So my MBP has decided to kill me.

After rebooting for the 10.5.5 update there was no video on the screen. Plugging in a cinema display also indicated there was no video out either.

I tried every trick in the book: PSU, PRAM, NVRAM, Cycle. There is never any video not even a flicker, so I'm not sure this is a software issue. Now I left it alone for 30hrs in a cold room and it the screen came back up when I powered it up. I made the mistake a trying my luck in restarting--that was the end.
It's just so frustrating that I am 2 months out of warranty and this happens. I mentioned the Nvidia card issue and the Dell recall and the Apple rep gave me the cold shoulder.

Agh!! Someone comfort me.
 
After having my logic board replaced at the apple store, I had to send my MBP to Apple to fix it (apple store didn't do it right). Now my status says that they need to order a part. I assume it would be the graphics card. They should have these on hand with all the problems.
 
applesith said:
After having my logic board replaced at the apple store, I had to send my MBP to Apple to fix it (apple store didn't do it right). Now my status says that they need to order a part. I assume it would be the graphics card. They should have these on hand with all the problems.
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There is no graphics card in the MBP, the GPU is built into the logic board.
 
Oh wonderful... my laptop is a time bomb. After reading this thread I feel better, because my mbp has not exhibited any of the issues other people have posted. I have never had a graphical issue that was hardware related.... the only problem I ever had was that Half-Life 2 had unexplainable fog in long distances, but using a different driver fixed it. I guess I might as well go down with my laptop... being an Engineering student, I kind of need graphical horsepower.
 
Creibold said:
I've had no trouble with my SR MBP (see signature). I play TF2, Call Of Duty 4, and just finished Bioshock on this baby and there is no sight of failure at all. It does get pretty hot though.

No slow downs after about 2 hours of TF2 or Call of Duty 4.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

It was bought in October of last year.
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It seems to be the problem is occurring after they're between 12 and 15 months old... no one has had the SR MBPs longer than 15 months, and most people who are experiencing failure are seeing it after the initial 12 month warranty expires.. you'll probly start experiencing the problems between october and february..
 
Do any of you who are experiencing graphical problems use smc fan control and when using graphic or processor intensive apps turn the fans up?? Also is anyone experiencing graphical glitches after 10.5.5, apart from Daveway. If not, do you think Apple tried to convince its customers that the card is fine because they were fixing the issue in 10.5.5? After all it was released very quickly and the beta's were released nearly every week, so maybe thats why Apple hid the issue? What do you think?
 
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Do any of you who are experiencing graphical problems use smc fan control and when using graphic or processor intensive apps turn the fans up?? Also is anyone experiencing graphical glitches after 10.5.5, apart from Daveway. If not, do you think Apple tried to convince its customers that the card is fine because they were fixing the issue in 10.5.5? After all it was released very quickly and the beta's were released nearly every week, so maybe thats why Apple hid the issue? What do you think?
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Apple tried to convince its customers that the card is fine because they were fixing the issue in 10.5.5?

What do I think? For a start, I'm pretty sure you can't fix a hardware fault with a software update. So the problems people are seeing and feel are now fixed with 10.5.5 are either not a hardware fault or not fixed.

At best, any "fix" in 10.5.5 for a hardware fault would be a workaround that reduces the chances of the fault becoming apparent during the warranty period, which would be an awfully cynical move don't you think? Assuming, of course, that there really is a hardware fault. As much as I've said a few times in this thread that I think there could well be, we don't actually know that.
 
I'm glad I sold my MBP in time, as I was beginning to see the first symptoms of a failure: white boxes in animations, youtube, iphoto, etc. (though only when my lap was unplugged) and some very weird messed up GUI which eventually forced me to do a hard reboot, only happened once though. Since so many people were having troubles with this nvidia issue, I figured to sell asap. Now eagerly awaiting the new MBPs!
Really, this 233mhz imac I'm working on now is really driving me nuts :)
OS9 is so unstable...
 
Solid Raven said:
I'm glad I sold my MBP in time, as I was beginning to see the first symptoms of a failure: white boxes in animations, youtube, iphoto, etc. (though only when my lap was unplugged) and some very weird messed up GUI which eventually forced me to do a hard reboot, only happened once though. Since so many people were having troubles with this nvidia issue, I figured to sell asap. Now eagerly awaiting the new MBPs!
Really, this 233mhz imac I'm working on now is really driving me nuts :)
OS9 is so unstable...
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Well, I hope you were forthright in your disclosures to the buyer...
 
panzer06 said:
Well, I hope you were forthright in your disclosures to the buyer...
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Frankly, yes. I had a personal warranty agreement with the buyer. In case of failure, I'd take the machine back, which, btw, had a 1 year warranty left in the store. But still, the MBP was in perfect condition, tested by the buyer themselves. I just didn't want to take any risks with nvidia. Especially after this white box "issue", though it could've been a driver issue as well (I don't know actually), and it happened only occasionally, and only when unplugged. But as I said, didn't want to take any risks.
 
Solid Raven said:
I'm glad I sold my MBP in time, as I was beginning to see the first symptoms of a failure: white boxes in animations, youtube, iphoto, etc. (though only when my lap was unplugged) and some very weird messed up GUI which eventually forced me to do a hard reboot, only happened once though. Since so many people were having troubles with this nvidia issue, I figured to sell asap. Now eagerly awaiting the new MBPs!
Really, this 233mhz imac I'm working on now is really driving me nuts :)
OS9 is so unstable...
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Well, I can't help you with the 233 MHz iMac...... that'll be really slow... but OS 9 can be made to be more stable with a little help from ResEdit.

It's pretty anemic when it comes to browser support now though...
 
Tallest Skil said:
2. No, it's not; Steve says they're fine.
3. If they aren't fine, it won't matter if you have AppleCare; a recall would cover everything.
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Well then what's the cause of the mass number of graphical glitches not only in Apple's products but in other PC manufacturers using the Nvidia GeForce 8600m GT?

Why should you have to pay extra money for apple care for a machine that costs so much in the first place!?! Also I would prefer using my MacBook Pro knowing that anything I do on it WONT possibly screw up the graphics card!
 
So in order to save our MBPs we have to treat it like a desktop? So will leaving it on all day and having the fans on higher than usual save it in the long run?
 
JavaWizKid said:
Well then what's the cause of the mass number of graphical glitches not only in Apple's products but in other PC manufacturers using the Nvidia GeForce 8600m GT?

Why should you have to pay extra money for apple care for a machine that costs so much in the first place!?! Also I would prefer using my MacBook Pro knowing that anything I do on it WONT possibly screw up the graphics card!
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Because its called warranty. Any company provides normally 1 year standard and 2/3/4 years extra. Same with apple, its no different. You're only thinking apple's slightly different because their systems are more of a luxury item rather then a computer due to the high price.

Think of it like this, you buy a Lexus/BMW/Benz for a higher price when you can get the same "ITEM" from a cheaper place like Chevy/Ford/Honda/Toyota. You're getting a car, you're just getting a different brand. Here, you're getting an Apple computer. Its still a computer. Its not something different like comparing Apples and Oranges.

JavaWizKid said:
So in order to save our MBPs we have to treat it like a desktop? So will leaving it on all day and having the fans on higher than usual save it in the long run?
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I use it as a laptop but i never turn it off nor keep my fans at 4000 rpm.
 
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